OT: Long Island serial killer suspect in custody

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ashokan

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Ted Bundy fooled a lot of people and that let him thrive as a serial killer for years. If there was a job opening, any job, and Ted and I applied for it, Bundy would always get the job. He had the gift to totally mask what he was. He was a charmer.

Reminds me of a guy I played Rugby with long ago.
I joined a rugby club when quitting smoking.
I had no idea how to play the game but as LB I was physical enough to get on As.
My team was real good, and players argued all game as if the other team wasn't even there.
One guy was real patient though and kept taking time to show me the rules.
"Good guy" I thought.
Two weeks later he killed a girl and put her body in a refrigerator.
He's still in jail
 

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Reminds me of a guy I played Rugby with long ago.
I joined a rugby club when quitting smoking.
I had no idea how to play the game but as LB I was physical enough to get on As.
My team was real good, and players argued all game as if the other team wasn't even there.
One guy was real patient though and kept taking time to show me the rules.
"Good guy" I thought.
Two weeks later he killed a girl and put her body in a refrigerator.
He's still in jail
Lucky for you, he was a better teammate than he was a boyfriend. 😀
 

RUPete

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Very unusual for a serial killer to stop killing unless caught.
I actually read an article in which they interviewed a profiler about that. Although rare, they say it does happen for a number of reasons, one of which is simply the SK gets too old and is physically unable to commit the acts and cover-up.
 

Chaiya1

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I mean, how could you possibly know that?
Very unusual for a serial killer to stop killing unless caught.

They do say it is rare for a serial killer to stop killing. However, sometimes serial killers have “cooling off periods.” We know that he was doing the killings when his second wife was traveling. His second wife is from Iceland. Perhaps, the wife did not travel for quite some time. LE did say that they felt he was getting ready to do another killing very soon and that’s why they took him off the street. There’s a lot of information that we still don’t know about this case.
 
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Speaking of serial killers, amazing documentary on the most infamous of them all:

 

mildone_rivals

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Have you never watched a documentary on some of the most notorious serial killers?

Yes, I have seen documentaries and read quite a bit about it.

They do say it is rare for a serial killer to stop killing. However, sometimes serial killers have “cooling off periods.”
Yep, people say it, and the favored theory is they rarely stop.

Nonetheless, whatever documentaries say, or what's written in books, or whatever LE or criminal psychologists say, it's logically impossible to quantify how many serial killers decided to just stop on their own without getting caught. We can estimate, but that's just a guess.

If they stop and are are never caught, and we didn't learn about them posthumously, then nobody will ever know about them. Just no way to know, deterministically.

I get that, insofar as the cases we are aware of where they have eventually been caught or discovered posthumously, we can see that most never stopped. But again, that's not proof that there haven't been numerous serial killers who eventually just stopped on their own.
 
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RUPete

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Yes, I have seen documentaries and read quite a bit about it.


Yep, people say it, and the favored theory is they rarely stop.

Nonetheless, whatever documentaries say, or what's written in books, or whatever LE or criminal psychologists say, it's logically impossible to quantity how many serial killers decided to just stop on their own without getting caught. We can estimate, but that's just a guess.

If they stop and are are never caught, and we didn't learn about them posthumously, then nobody will ever know about them. Just no way to know, deterministically.

I'll get that, insofar as the cases we are aware of where they have eventually been caught or discovered posthumously, we can see that most never stopped. But again, that's not proof that there haven't been numerous serial killers who eventually just stopped on their own.
At the end of the day, though, we're just shooting the sh$t on a message board, not conducting peer-reviewed research.
 

MADHAT1

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At the end of the day, though, we're just shooting the sh$t on a message board, not conducting peer-reviewed research.
unless
 
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At the end of the day, though, we're just shooting the sh$t on a message board, not conducting peer-reviewed research.
I'm on a mission from God to prevent people from stating stuff as fact when it is not, in fact, fact. 😀

It's been an uphill battle so far. But I'm fighting the good fight and God's on my side on this. So I feel pretty good about it, overall.
 
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I'm on a mission from God to prevent people from stating stuff as fact when it is not, in fact, fact. 😀

It's been an uphill battle so far. But I'm fighting the good fight and God's on my side on this. So I feel pretty good about it, overall.
Fair enough. But did you ever hear of a guy named Don Quixote? 😂
 
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Fair enough. But did you ever hear of a guy named Don Quixote? 😂
The guy with the windmill problem? 😉

We have quite the quixotic thread here on the RUFB forum, in which a bunch of people are fighting windmills because, they claim pseudo-factually, windmills are killing whales. When, in fact, there is little or no evidence to even support that claim as a theory, let alone as a fact.

Ironic, that. No?
 
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The guy with the windmill problem? 😉

We have quite the quixotic thread here on the RUFB forum, in which a bunch of people are fighting windmills because, they claim pseudo-factually, windmills are killing whales. When, in fact, there is little or no evidence to even support that claim as a theory, let alone as a fact.

Ironic, that. No?
Agree, but now you’ve done it!
 
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MADHAT1

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But the dude was chivalrous and romantic. So at least he had that going for him, fictionally-speaking.
glad you took it in fun like I meant it to be.
I deleted it
Was afraid , after posting, would start a argument about windmill farms and not how Don thought sorcery had turned giants into windmills and that's why he fought them .
 
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glad you took it in fun like I meant it to be.
I deleted it
Was afraid , after posting, would start an argument about windmill farms and not how Don thought sorcery had turned giants into windmills and that's why he fought them .
I lack high seriousness so I take almost everything in fun. 😀
 
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At the end of the day, though, we're just shooting the sh$t on a message board, not conducting peer-reviewed research.
Always a good time when someone chimes in with the old 'no one can possibly know anything for sure, so why talk about it' line on a message board that exists solely to talk about stuff exactly like that. He must be fun at parties too.
 
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I was reading this piece just posted:



And in the article he said this:

“I’m like, ‘Yeah, of course I know.’ And he goes on to tell me, ‘Yeah, that’s a serial killer that was never caught in my hometown, my neighborhood where I live. The guy killed like 10 people and might still be out there.’

That to me sounds like he's admitting to killing all of them.
Id be shocked if he didn’t kill all these people found by the beach.
 

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I was thinking the same thing. There must have been signs that she ignored. The second wife was from Iceland. Maybe it was a cultural thing to not question your husband. Also, what kind of marriage did they have that he had so much free time to visit prostitutes? He was still visiting prostitutes all these years and that’s why LE decided to “take him off the streets,” to avoid more murders. He was an architect yet he lived in a “ramshackled,” house. He was in arrears for his taxes.
How many women whine about the allegedly horrible men they seem to attract? I think his wife has them all beat.
 

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Always a good time when someone chimes in with the old 'no one can possibly know anything for sure, so why talk about it' line on a message board that exists solely to talk about stuff exactly like that. He must be fun at parties too.
This message board exists solely to state facts nobody could possibly know about serial killers? We’ll jeez, now you tell me.

By all means, let me join in the fun. How’s this, for example?

Unknown serial killers usually eat Cap’n Crunch Berries for breakfast on the days they kill.

Can I come to your parties now? 😏
 

Ridge 22

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This message board exists solely to state facts nobody could possibly know about serial killers? We’ll jeez, now you tell me.

By all means, let me join in the fun. How’s this, for example?

Unknown serial killers usually eat Cap’n Crunch Berries for breakfast on the days they kill.

Can I come to your parties now? 😏
Maybe 😉
 
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Perhaps there is some connection, but you took a big logical leap.

Beyond big. Unless he buried his "stash" or beat the guy up at Gilgo Beach I'd the connection is nonexistent.

Watch the Netflix movie on Shannan Gilbert and google some of the police figures involved at the time.

Note that this guy is only charged in 3 and suspected in one other. There are 7 other bodies found there. There's a lot going on.
 

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Watch the Netflix movie on Shannan Gilbert and google some of the police figures involved at the time.

Note that this guy is only charged in 3 and suspected in one other. There are 7 other bodies found there. There's a lot going on.
There are elements in nature that erode evidence.
 

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Holy crap, he actually chased you?! What did he say??
Hard to remember what he said as I was crapping my pants running - lol. From what I can remember, he was saying get the hell out of here an never come back basically. He obviously did not want anyone snooping around at that time. I had a shirt full of oranges that I just dropped immediately and ran as fast as I could. He almost caught my friend as he had a bum leg at the time. I never jumped a fence so fast in my life - lol.
 
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Hard to remember what he said as I was crapping my pants running - lol. From what I can remember, he was saying get the hell out of here an never come back basically. He obviously did not want anyone snooping around at that time. I had a shirt full of oranges that I just dropped immediately and ran as fast as I could. He almost caught my friend as he had a bum leg at the time. I never jumped a fence so fast in my life - lol.
😂 that’s horror movie stuff…..crazy story
 
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