OT: maybe there is a growing appetite for nuclear energy

thatsbaseball

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Had not heard of this effort but it looks promising. I know SPS prefers solar and wind farms, but still***

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/com...mw-sodium-cooled-nuclear-reactor/ar-AA1xeUSE?
My question is what in the hell have we been waiting on ?????

 

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GloryDawg

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Just two little mishaps one in Ukraine and one in Pennsylvania and everyone ***** the bed. *** The USS Enterprise a nuclear power aircraft carrier sailed for 55 years. That's ship load of sailors over those years, and I have yet seen one walking around glowing.
 
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Just two little mishaps one in Ukraine and one in Pennsylvania and everyone ***** the bed. *** The USS Enterprise a nuclear power aircraft carrier sailed for 55 years. That's ship load of sailors over those years, and I have yet seen one walking around glowing.
What happened at Three Mile Island and what happened at Chernobyl are not even on the same planet when it comes to the severity of the accidents and the reasons why they happened but these fear mongerers can’t get past that.
 

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Also, I read that somebody in the USA has built a 18 wheeler that runs on hydrogen. I remember some were opposed to hydrogen propulsion because it is so explosive.
 

57stratdawg

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They’re one of the few things that get bipartisan pushback. Fair or not, no one wants to live by one.

I think Georgia just brought one online. It’s like the first this century in the US. And it’s like a decade behind schedule.

For the record, I’m all for them. Just not in my back yard*
 

dorndawg

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The one in PA was nothing. Literally a non-event.
I think non-event is a little strong (it was an actual nuclear melt-down, after all), but a lot of the backlash was due to something of an over-reaction by officials. Which, given how the soviets reacted a few years later - I'd still take it.

I think they are re-starting 3 mile island in a couple years, also.
 
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My occasional shower thought… I wonder how quickly society would implode into a Mad Max hellscape if large scale, widely available cheap/free energy suddenly became available.
mad max GIF
 

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My occasional shower thought… I wonder how quickly society would implode into a Mad Max hellscape if large scale, widely available cheap/free energy suddenly became available.
My occasional tin foil hat thought.... I wonder what it would be worth to the world's current energy producing complex to "sit on it" if this "cheap/free" energy source has already been discovered.
 

Darryl Steight

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Just thought I'd remind us, but Mississippi's own Grand Gulf is the most powerful nuclear plant in the US and the 7th most powerful in the world. It seems to have about 4x the output of the new facility mentioned in that article. And I believe that's with only half capacity online. I'll try not to get too technical for you guys (also because I don't know shite about the details), but I think they could approximately double the output on the existing site if they determined they needed to.

We have a pretty good source of energy right here in the state. Seems like we could use that to our advantage when recruiting industrial and tech companies. I think Shmuley has blown that horn here a time or two.
 

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Just thought I'd remind us, but Mississippi's own Grand Gulf is the most powerful nuclear plant in the US and the 7th most powerful in the world. It seems to have about 4x the output of the new facility mentioned in that article. And I believe that's with only half capacity online. I'll try not to get too technical for you guys (also because I don't know shite about the details), but I think they could approximately double the output on the existing site if they determined they needed to.

We have a pretty good source of energy right here in the state. Seems like we could use that to our advantage when recruiting industrial and tech companies. I think Shmuley has blown that horn here a time or two.
Your point overall is great, but Grand Gulf is pretty far down the list in power output. Unless maybe you're measuring another way?

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Darryl Steight

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Your point overall is great, but Grand Gulf is pretty far down the list in power output. Unless maybe you're measuring another way?

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I'm far (far) from an expert on this, so others can argue about the best way to measure nuclear power plants... but from that most trustworthy of sources, wikipedia: Grand Gulf's reactor is the most powerful in the US and the 7th most powerful in the world, with a core power of 4408 MW"

There's obviously a huge difference between "core power" and the "nominal gross electrical output", which is the chart you showed. I'll explain the difference to you over a beer sometime. I'll just need a year or two to learn what that is myself first.
 
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I'm far (far) from an expert on this, so others can argue about the best way to measure nuclear power plants... but from that most trustworthy of sources, wikipedia: Grand Gulf's reactor is the most powerful in the US and the 7th most powerful in the world, with a core power of 4408 MW"

There's obviously a huge difference between "core power" and the "nominal gross electrical output", which is the chart you showed. I'll explain the difference to you over a beer sometime. I'll just need a year or two to learn what that is myself first.
I'll take a root beer any ol time, but Im guessing the difference is 1 reactor vs other places having 2-3 smaller ones. Very cool the largest single one is in MS - I'd hazard a guess that b/c GG has such great water flow available, they don't need to have more than 1?
 
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Yes, Grand Gulf has the single biggest nuclear reactor/unit in the country in terms of MW output. There are lots of other sites that make more power than GGN though, because they have more than one unit.
 
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Just thought I'd remind us, but Mississippi's own Grand Gulf is the most powerful nuclear plant in the US and the 7th most powerful in the world. It seems to have about 4x the output of the new facility mentioned in that article. And I believe that's with only half capacity online. I'll try not to get too technical for you guys (also because I don't know shite about the details), but I think they could approximately double the output on the existing site if they determined they needed to.
just to clarify that last piece. No, Grand Gulf can't double it's output without building another reactor/unit. Back in the 80's when it was being constructed it was intended to have two reactors, but Unit #2 got scrapped after Three Mile Island happened. Some of the infrastructure for Unit #2 had been built, but the reactor itself had not yet, and what was built was abandoned and has been cannibalized since. But there's no second unit there that could be easily turned on.
 

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What happened at Three Mile Island and what happened at Chernobyl are not even on the same planet when it comes to the severity of the accidents and the reasons why they happened but these fear mongerers can’t get past that.
3 Mile Island is re-opening. I'd say that's a good indicator that the narrative has finally changed on nuclear. All it took was people hating the landscape being filled with solar and wind farms apparently.