OT: maybe there is a growing appetite for nuclear energy

mstateglfr

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If anyone claims to be a climate change warrior and does not support nuclear, they do not know what they are talking about.
If anyone claims to be a conservationist or claims to care about preserving land, and does not support initiatives to severely reduce toxic pollution in waterways(creeks, streams, rivers, ponds, lakes) and improve air quality, they do not know what they are talking about.



Pretty sure that between those two statements, there are a ton of people who do not know what they are talking about.
 
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So, is your last name "the Hoople?"
 
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I'm far (far) from an expert on this, so others can argue about the best way to measure nuclear power plants... but from that most trustworthy of sources, wikipedia: Grand Gulf's reactor is the most powerful in the US and the 7th most powerful in the world, with a core power of 4408 MW"

There's obviously a huge difference between "core power" and the "nominal gross electrical output", which is the chart you showed. I'll explain the difference to you over a beer sometime. I'll just need a year or two to learn what that is myself first.

Grand Gulf's output is limited by the NRC (Nuclear Regulatory Commission) because it is an older BWR (Boiling Water Reactor) plant. In a BWR, steam is taken directly from the core to turn the turbines (similar to Chernobyl), whereas the more common reactor type in the US, the PWR (Pressurized Water Reactor), uses heat exchangers to produce steam to turn the turbines. Additionally, GGNGS has a history of unplanned outages, which is a major safety concern in the eyes of the NRC. I've worked in that plant before and it is a total **** show.

Molten-salt reactors will likely be the future of nuclear energy in the U.S. They are built in a modular configuration, allowing components to be removed and replaced much more easily and quickly. I've also been told that when a molten-salt reactor is due for refueling, the core can be swapped out, and the refueling can be done offsite or the core it self is decommissioned.
 

Willow Grove Dawg

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Is that site for the Yellow Creek Plant site in Tishomingo County still wasting away?
Was it the snail darter we saved there or was that the Tennessee-Tombigbee Waterway? Surely some ole bass-turd on the six-pack knows the answer.
 

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Is that site for the Yellow Creek Plant site in Tishomingo County still wasting away?
Was it the snail darter we saved there or was that the Tennessee-Tombigbee Waterway? Surely some ole bass-turd on the six-pack knows the answer.
Yep. Can still see the base of the cooling tower from the water. And it is located on the Tennessee Tombigbee waterway. Yellow creek is part of it.
 

thatsbaseball

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Is that site for the Yellow Creek Plant site in Tishomingo County still wasting away?
Was it the snail darter we saved there or was that the Tennessee-Tombigbee Waterway? Surely some ole bass-turd on the six-pack knows the answer.
It was the snail darter on the Tenn-Tom. Two of the leading protesters were profs at State. Dr. Clemmer taught biology and his wife taught English. I had class under both, Gotta confess I thought the were very nice people.......and still do.
 

Howiefeltersnstch

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Just two little mishaps one in Ukraine and one in Pennsylvania and everyone ***** the bed. *** The USS Enterprise a nuclear power aircraft carrier sailed for 55 years. That's ship load of sailors over those years, and I have yet seen one walking around glowing.
Spock seems a little affected tho, don't ya think ? Might just be his personality tho but those ears ?? Mutation.
 

Darryl Steight

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Grand Gulf's output is limited by the NRC (Nuclear Regulatory Commission) because it is an older BWR (Boiling Water Reactor) plant. In a BWR, steam is taken directly from the core to turn the turbines (similar to Chernobyl), whereas the more common reactor type in the US, the PWR (Pressurized Water Reactor), uses heat exchangers to produce steam to turn the turbines. Additionally, GGNGS has a history of unplanned outages, which is a major safety concern in the eyes of the NRC. I've worked in that plant before and it is a total **** show.

Molten-salt reactors will likely be the future of nuclear energy in the U.S. They are built in a modular configuration, allowing components to be removed and replaced much more easily and quickly. I've also been told that when a molten-salt reactor is due for refueling, the core can be swapped out, and the refueling can be done offsite or the core it self is decommissioned.
That's exactly what I was thinking, most of these dummies around here just don't get it**
 

AROB44

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Also, I read that somebody in the USA has built a 18 wheeler that runs on hydrogen. I remember some were opposed to hydrogen propulsion because it is so explosive.

you can find someone who is against anything.......all you have to do is look right here.
 

thatsbaseball

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Grand Gulf's output is limited by the NRC (Nuclear Regulatory Commission) because it is an older BWR (Boiling Water Reactor) plant. In a BWR, steam is taken directly from the core to turn the turbines (similar to Chernobyl), whereas the more common reactor type in the US, the PWR (Pressurized Water Reactor), uses heat exchangers to produce steam to turn the turbines. Additionally, GGNGS has a history of unplanned outages, which is a major safety concern in the eyes of the NRC. I've worked in that plant before and it is a total **** show.

Molten-salt reactors will likely be the future of nuclear energy in the U.S. They are built in a modular configuration, allowing components to be removed and replaced much more easily and quickly. I've also been told that when a molten-salt reactor is due for refueling, the core can be swapped out, and the refueling can be done offsite or the core it self is decommissioned.
Since you're the only one in this thread that seems to have a clue what you're talking about , what are the basic differences in GG and the plants we would build now (if we built any) ? ?
 

dorndawg

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In hindsight, some of us were kind of mean to W about how he said nuclear. What sweet, sweet summer children we were...
 

o_Luka Legend

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Its AI. They've put roadblocks in place because they could launder money through wind and solar. They have to have the power for AI now and Nuclear is the only feasible option.
 

lazlow

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3 Mile Island is re-opening. I'd say that's a good indicator that the narrative has finally changed on nuclear. All it took was people hating the landscape being filled with solar and wind farms apparently.
If MS is buying all the power I’d say it says more about the energy demand to generate crypto and Al
 
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Fukushima. Google it for the short-term memory crew.
It's still leaking radiation in the Pacific.
Nuclear waste is the biggest issue with that form of power.
 
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Since you're the only one in this thread that seems to have a clue what you're talking about , what are the basic differences in GG and the plants we would build now (if we built any) ? ?

Off the top of my head, there are no approved permits by the NRC to build new reactors in the US right now. The biggest difference between GGNS and most plants in the U.S., as well as those that might be built in the near future, is that GGNS is a BWR type reactor (BWR info), whereas more modern plants are PWR type reactors (PWR info). In theory, BWR plants can be cheaper to build but are more difficult to maintain because the radiated water is used throughout the plant rather than being contained within the reactor core and cooling loop, as in a PWR.

It can take years to get approval from the NRC for a new reactor, and I believe the applications currently up for approval are for PWRs, with the exception of the one in Wyoming, which is a molten-salt reactor.

I don’t know much about molten-salt reactors, but I have been told by a Duke Nuclear plant manager that they could revolutionize nuclear power because the reactor is not pressurized to the extent as a BWR or PWR. I also saw a TED talk where in theory, a molten-salt reactor could be scaled down to the point where it could power a single city or even function as a backup generator.
 

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Grand Gulf's output is limited by the NRC (Nuclear Regulatory Commission) because it is an older BWR (Boiling Water Reactor) plant. In a BWR, steam is taken directly from the core to turn the turbines (similar to Chernobyl), whereas the more common reactor type in the US, the PWR (Pressurized Water Reactor), uses heat exchangers to produce steam to turn the turbines. Additionally, GGNGS has a history of unplanned outages, which is a major safety concern in the eyes of the NRC. I've worked in that plant before and it is a total **** show.

Molten-salt reactors will likely be the future of nuclear energy in the U.S. They are built in a modular configuration, allowing components to be removed and replaced much more easily and quickly. I've also been told that when a molten-salt reactor is due for refueling, the core can be swapped out, and the refueling can be done offsite or the core it self is decommissioned.
You're claiming that something Entergy is in charge of is a **** show? I shall not believe it. I just shall not believe it.**
 

patdog

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You're claiming that something Entergy is in charge of is a **** show? I shall not believe it. I just shall not believe it.**
I used to work for Entergy back in the 1990s when the Dilbert comic strip was first getting popular. We used to swear Scott Adams had to work for Entergy. Turned out he worked at Pacific Gas & Electric. So I just assume all power companies are filled with corporate speaking bureaucrats.
 

johnson86-1

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But it did turn them all gay, never mind that's just the navy nothing to do with nuclear.

For you easily offended that was a joke......kind of....
Look *** hole, the navy does not turn people gay. The 10% that enter straight, leave straight.*

*I did not serve and have no business making this joke. I'm just basically repeating comments from one of my bosses, ,who was actually a marine, but I guess they still make fun of the Navy?
 

johnson86-1

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I used to work for Entergy back in the 1990s when the Dilbert comic strip was first getting popular. We used to swear Scott Adams had to work for Entergy. Turned out he worked at Pacific Gas & Electric. So I just assume all power companies are filled with corporate speaking bureaucrats.
I don't think it's just power companies. Somewhere (I think in one of his books), he wrote that early on he kept making more and more ridiculous work situations with dumber and dumber decisions by executives, and no matter how asinine and unrealistic he thought he made them, people would write and tell him he exactly described something at their work.
 

patdog

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I don't think it's just power companies. Somewhere (I think in one of his books), he wrote that early on he kept making more and more ridiculous work situations with dumber and dumber decisions by executives, and no matter how asinine and unrealistic he thought he made them, people would write and tell him he exactly described something at their work.
I know he could have pulled off this hoax at Entergy when I was there. Probably thousands of other big companies too.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1997-nov-16-mn-54489-story.html
 

Dawgpile

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Just two little mishaps one in Ukraine and one in Pennsylvania and everyone ***** the bed. *** The USS Enterprise a nuclear power aircraft carrier sailed for 55 years. That's ship load of sailors over those years, and I have yet seen one walking around glowing.
Fukushima is often forgotten, and it would check in at #2
 

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Maroon Eagle

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Yes, Grand Gulf has the single biggest nuclear reactor/unit in the country in terms of MW output. There are lots of other sites that make more power than GGN though, because they have more than one unit.

But that doesn’t matter because Mississippi has Big Unit Energy. **
 
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