OT, moon landing

[SuperBigFan69]

you must not have been in any branch of the military. Well, I can't speak for the Air Force, but I can speak for the Army, Navy, and Marine Corps. I've heard much worse in person to my face than anything on these forums. From real life people who wore the same uniform as me and took the same oath as me.

I guess what I mean is that you and your friends don't see a kid at the store and that kid drops an item on the ground...you and your friends don't run up to him and start calling him names.

For instance, when I go golf with my friends, we say funny/mean **** to each other. But we don't do that to the group on the fairway next to us. You know?

 

[BleedRed89]

you must not have been in any branch of the military. Well, I can't speak for the Air Force, but I can speak for the Army, Navy, and Marine Corps. I've heard much worse in person to my face than anything on these forums. From real life people who wore the same uniform as me and took the same oath as me.

I was (Air Force). My interactions with the USMC that were stationed at Lackland certainly showed me they had more creativity then my fellow airmen. But I cant recall a single time someone went on a tirade of that manner (as in direct insults and not much else) without things getting heated.

Good military **** talking always straddles the line of being genuine, offensive - but also witty enough that you're forced to take it on the chin in good spirits.

 

[HuskerInCarolina]

I was (Air Force). My interactions with the USMC that were stationed at Lackland certainly showed me they had more creativity then my fellow airmen. But I cant recall a single time someone went on a tirade of that manner (as in direct insults and not much else) without things getting heated.

Good military **** talking always straddles the line of being genuine, offensive - but also witty enough that you're forced to take it on the chin in good spirits.

I had a Gunnery Sergeant approach me (I spit in the grass) and SCREAM at me for disrespecting the grass that God and Chesty Puller gave to us and then proceeded to scream at me saying I was **** a fukc up and that my grandfather should have pulled my father out of my mother and swallowed the load so I wouldn't have been there to be a disgrace to the grass blades. Had never seen this Gunny before. He then punched my chevrons and told me to remember that being an NCO was a privilege.

I have a whole bunch of stories of the psychopaths that the Marine Corps enables, all from first hand experience or witnessing. It's what arguably makes us the best fighting force on the planet, but it is an environment that is extremely toxic in garrison.

 

[SuperBigFan69]

I had a Gunnery Sergeant approach me (I spit in the grass) and SCREAM at me for disrespecting the grass that God and Chesty Puller gave to us and then proceeded to scream at me saying I was **** a fukc up and that my grandfather should have pulled my father out of my mother and swallowed the load so I wouldn't have been there to be a disgrace to the grass blades. Had never seen this Gunny before. He then punched my chevrons and told me to remember that being an NCO was a privilege.

I have a whole bunch of stories of the psychopaths that the Marine Corps enables, all from first hand experience or witnessing. It's what arguably makes us the best fighting force on the planet, but it is an environment that is extremely toxic in garrison.

Ohhhh, I get what you are saying now. Yeah, that is not what I mean.

Like, in the coaches locker room, we will say **** to each other all the time. But then at Parent Teacher conferences I talk like a normal person. There is a time and place for it all.

 

[BleedRed89]

I had a Gunnery Sergeant approach me (I spit in the grass) and SCREAM at me for disrespecting the grass that God and Chesty Puller gave to us and then proceeded to scream at me saying I was **** a fukc up and that my grandfather should have pulled my father out of my mother and swallowed the load so I wouldn't have been there to be a disgrace to the grass blades. Had never seen this Gunny before. He then punched my chevrons and told me to remember that being an NCO was a privilege.

I have a whole bunch of stories of the psychopaths that the Marine Corps enables, all from first hand experience or witnessing. It's what arguably makes us the best fighting force on the planet, but it is an environment that is extremely toxic in garrison.

Heh. Yeah. My first TI slammed me against a wall and said some very creative things about my mother for having the audacity to follow too closely behind him as we walked into the day room. (He wanted to slam the day room door shut behind him for dramatic effect but my stupid *** was just standing in the doorway when he turned around.

Somehow that still felt more elegant than some of the ramblings ITT.

 

[Mack In Motion]

I'm actually impressed TBH.

First time around flat-earthers?

 

[HuskerInCarolina]

Ohhhh, I get what you are saying now. Yeah, that is not what I mean.

Like, in the coaches locker room, we will say **** to each other all the time. But then at Parent Teacher conferences I talk like a normal person. There is a time and place for it all.

I got you. Yeah, I wouldn't speak that way to a random person unprovoked.
Heck, I didn't even speak to my Marines that way.

But there are people out there like that. Like that Gunny who had never known me before walking on the same sidewalk as me and then witnessing me spit in the grass. Oh, and I saw that Gunny 2 weeks later was wearing airpods while walking and tactfully reminded him that MCO 1020.34H states he was out of regulations. Oh boy did that set him off. I got another screamfest with a bunch of derogatory remarks and (to my opinion) witty slurs before he dismissed me.

 

[Anon1751408132]

I know!

Me too!

All I can do is plant the seeds

 

[cestrup]

And yet one of us is answering the others questions...

And how tf can one be a forum shill? Do you know what the word shill means?

And buddy. I have addressed why Im referring to you as "you guys" on 3 separate occasions now. If you'd read, you'd have your answers.

You are shilling right now. This isn’t a discussion. It’s you ram rodding your AI filled garbage until I cowardly bow out, however you put it.

You’re marginalizing me with the other forums you troll. You’re a dime a dozen dipshit who parrots your Google overlords. Half the issues you don’t even know what you’re doing. You’re the one who brought the sticks in and then you’re telling me “you guys always bring it up..”. Blah blah blah.

You still think paper and tape hit the moon and back. Got any film of those bozos taking off or putting on their back packs inside the LEM? One guy believes they couldn’t even fit through the door. The life size LEM model
At the museum in DC has 4.5 ft tall models lmao!! It’s a big joke and here you are typing away in your trailer so you can get some
Shekels.

Most don’t think. You don’t think. You just chat gpt like the rest of the useful idiots

 

[BleedRed89]

You are shilling right now. This isn’t a discussion. It’s you ram rodding your AI filled garbage until I cowardly bow out, however you put it.

You’re marginalizing me with the other forums you troll. You’re a dime a dozen dipshit who parrots your Google overlords. Half the issues you don’t even know what you’re doing. You’re the one who brought the sticks in and then you’re telling me “you guys always bring it up..”. Blah blah blah.

You still think paper and tape hit the moon and back. Got any film of those bozos taking off or putting on their back packs inside the LEM? One guy believes they couldn’t even fit through the door. The life size LEM model
At the museum in DC has 4.5 ft tall models lmao!! It’s a big joke and here you are typing away in your trailer so you can get some
Shekels.

Most don’t think. You don’t think. You just chat gpt like the rest of the useful idiots

Again. You do not seem to understand what the world "shill" means. But Ill let you figure that out for yourself.

Up until this point I've formed every response by hand using data found online. Can you explain to me how thats sacrilegious? How is that any different than...you finding data online?

And I cant make heads or tails of your claim of the Smithsonian. Are you claiming the LEM featured to scale there is only 4.5 feet tall? Because thats absolutely false. If youre suggesting the hatch was only 4.5 feet tall - theres a reason the footage of the astronauts leaving the hatch shows them doing so on their knees. The hatch was indeed very small. They had only a few inches of clearance on either side while they squeezed out.

There I go answering your questions directly again. Not sure why I bother. Im just curious to see how you'll pivot now...

 

[cestrup]

Again. You do not seem to understand what the world "shill" means. But Ill let you figure that out for yourself.

Up until this point I've formed every response by hand using data found online. Can you explain to me how thats sacrilegious? How is that any different than...you finding data online?

And I cant make heads or tails of your claim of the Smithsonian. Are you claiming the LEM featured to scale there is only 4.5 feet tall? Because thats absolutely false. If youre suggesting the hatch was only 4.5 feet tall - theres a reason the footage of the astronauts leaving the hatch shows them doing so on their knees. The hatch was indeed very small. They had only a few inches of clearance on either side while they squeezed out.

There I go answering your questions directly again. Not sure why I bother. Im just curious to see how you'll pivot now...

Are the models of astronauts life size there?

You cool with me calling you tampon? It’s easier than bleedred.

Why do you bother? You reply instantly to when I post?

 

[BleedRed89]

Are the models of astronauts life size there?

You cool with me calling you tampon? It’s easier than bleedred.

Why do you bother? You reply instantly to when I post?

I cannot find any information that claims the models are 4.5 feet in size. Can you, beyond "my friend said so"?

The Smithsonians page lists the dimensions for the lander itself. Which you're more than welcome to scrutinize. But I didnt make the claim the models were 4.5 feet in size. You did. Why don't you share your evidence then?

Lunar Module LM-2 | National Air and Space Museum

airandspace.si.edu

And thats...how conversations work? You reply to me. I reply to you. How the hell do you suggest this work. Do we stop for a mini game in between responses?

And you can call me anything you'd like. Curious what color you bleed tho? If it also red, does that nickname go both ways?

 

[cestrup]

I cannot find any information that claims the models are 4.5 feet in size. Can you, beyond "my friend said so"?

The Smithsonians page lists the dimensions for the lander itself. Which you're more than welcome to scrutinize. But I didnt make the claim the models were 4.5 feet in size. You did. Why don't you share your evidence then?

Lunar Module LM-2 | National Air and Space Museum

airandspace.si.edu

And thats...how conversations work? You reply to me. I reply to you. How the hell do you suggest this work. Do we stop for a mini game in between responses?

And you can call me anything you'd like. Curious what color you bleed tho? If it also red, does that nickname go both ways?

They’re small. Stfu and let others respond, tampon.


For those who like to watch videos …

 

[BleedRed89]

They’re small. Stfu and let others respond, tampon.


For those who like to watch videos …

"Theyre small" okay bud. Provide your evidence. Would you like me to email the museum and share the reply here?

And why do you suddenly want to engage with someone else? This not going as well as you thought?

 

[Neb79]

They’re small. Stfu and let others respond, tampon.


For those who like to watch videos …

Bleedred is doing an excellent job countering every ridiculous goalpost moving, subject changing, and consistently not answering questions post you have made. Why would we interrupt and why should he stop? I know that your idea is to convince people Cestrup, but the only thing you have convinced me of is to never take another one of your posts seriously again.

 

[cestrup]

Bleedred is doing an excellent job countering every ridiculous goalpost moving, subject changing, and consistently not answering questions post you have made. Why would we interrupt and why should he stop? I know that your idea is to convince people Cestrup, but the only thing you have convinced me of is to never take another one of your posts seriously again.

<Grasps pearls>

 

[Anon1751408132]

Can we get back to the question is it possible we did land on the moon but had to fake some videos.

 

[inWV]

Since we've had such great discussions (sarcasm) lately about protests, the Governor, abortion and such.

Seems like a good time to revisit Apollo 11 moon landing, and those that followed.

Real or fake

Whether or not Apollo 11 was faked, I am more interested in this self-growing city on the moon. Someone just discovered the fundamentals of celestial mechanics. Possibly between ketamine binges.

 

[cestrup]

"Theyre small" okay bud. Provide your evidence. Would you like me to email the museum and share the reply here?

And why do you suddenly want to engage with someone else? This not going as well as you thought?

They are small. It’s known. Go there and see for yourself.


Also, read on tampon

share.google

 

[Anon1751408132]

Are the models of astronauts life size there?

You cool with me calling you tampon? It’s easier than bleedred.

Why do you bother? You reply instantly to when I post?

Btw, how do you explain moon rocks

 

[cestrup]

Btw, how do you explain moon rocks

Fake. How do you?

 

[RoryMurray]

Fake. How do you?

You really believe there are no satellites?

 

[Anon1751408132]

Fake. How do you?

Is that your answer for everything? I don't have to prove anything about moon rocks, it's already been studied. Not my problem if you refuse it

Thought you'd have something better than fake. Kind of lame

 

[cestrup]

Is that your answer for everything? I don't have to prove anything about moon rocks, it's already been studied. Not my problem if you refuse it

Thought you'd have something better than fake. Kind of lame

Oh so you rely on people you never met or talked to to tell you how things are? No wonder you love tampon and his posts.

See, I don’t. I didn’t study the rocks. I didn’t retrieve them. An entire mission with hokey special effects and anomalies brought them back. They also have the Netherlands a moon rock that ended up being petrified wood. You may have picked up on me not trusting government or its institutions.

You are easily swindled. You think a rock is from the moon simply because they said it was and told you it was examined.

 

[SuperBigFan69]

Oh so you rely on people you never met or talked to to tell you how things are? No wonder you love tampon and his posts.

See, I don’t. I didn’t study the rocks. I didn’t retrieve them. An entire mission with hokey special effects and anomalies brought them back. They also have the Netherlands a moon rock that ended up being petrified wood. You may have picked up on me not trusting government or its institutions.

You are easily swindled. You think a rock is from the moon simply because they said it was and told you it was examined.

Do you 100% trust the current government then?

 

[Anon1751408132]

Oh so you rely on people you never met or talked to to tell you how things are? No wonder you love tampon and his posts.

See, I don’t. I didn’t study the rocks. I didn’t retrieve them. An entire mission with hokey special effects and anomalies brought them back. They also have the Netherlands a moon rock that ended up being petrified wood. You may have picked up on me not trusting government or its institutions.

You are easily swindled. You think a rock is from the moon simply because they said it was and told you it was examined.

Such a lame response and typical. So you've met and talked to everyone to reach your conclusions, cause it sounds like you get it from YouTube.

You know more than one person has studied stuff brought back right, including scientists that don't work for the government.

You claim I'm easily swindled, guess not since I'm not buying your delusions. Saying it doesn't look right or that satellites don't exist, holy shiite

 

[Anon1751408132]

Do you 100% trust the current government then?

Why does he keep ducking this simple question

 

[StayFrosty2]

Oh so you rely on people you never met or talked to to tell you how things are? No wonder you love tampon and his posts.

See, I don’t. I didn’t study the rocks. I didn’t retrieve them. An entire mission with hokey special effects and anomalies brought them back. They also have the Netherlands a moon rock that ended up being petrified wood. You may have picked up on me not trusting government or its institutions.

You are easily swindled. You think a rock is from the moon simply because they said it was and told you it was examined.

So curious... you don't rely on knowledge from people you have never met or talked to?

 

[BleedRed89]

They are small. It’s known. Go there and see for yourself.


Also, read on tampon

share.google

"It's known". If its so known my guy, why can't you provide evidence? Want me to travel to the Smithsonian and measure them and post photos? **** I can probably hire someone off a service similar to fiver to go do if for us. Do you REALLY want that? Because I'll do it if thats what it takes to make you see reason.

And yes. Thank you for posting the definition of shill. I am aware of its meaning. You clearly are not. I dont frequent any forums beyond this one. I have no puppet overlords. You specifically using the term "forum shill" made no sense - as that implies im a shill...on behalf of forums?

Regardless. What I am is someone who calls you out on the fantasy land you live in. And rather engage with me directly and risk shattering your fragile world view, you've decided the only logical conclusion is I must be a paid puppet.

You need therapy breh.

 

[StayFrosty2]

Oh so you rely on people you never met or talked to to tell you how things are? No wonder you love tampon and his posts.

See, I don’t. I didn’t study the rocks. I didn’t retrieve them. An entire mission with hokey special effects and anomalies brought them back. They also have the Netherlands a moon rock that ended up being petrified wood. You may have picked up on me not trusting government or its institutions.

You are easily swindled. You think a rock is from the moon simply because they said it was and told you it was examined.

Also curious... how far away is the sun in your "educated" opinion.

 

[Anon1751408132]

"It's known". If its so known my guy, why can't you provide evidence? Want me to travel to the Smithsonian and measure them and post photos? **** I can probably hire someone off a service similar to fiver to go do if for us. Do you REALLY want that? Because I'll do it if thats what it takes to make you see reason.

And yes. Thank you for posting the definition of shill. I am aware of its meaning. You clearly are not. I dont frequent any forums beyond this one. I have no puppet overlords. You specifically using the term "forum shill" made no sense - as that implies im a shill...on behalf of forums?

Regardless. What I am is someone who calls you out on the fantasy land you live in. And rather engage with me directly and risk shattering your fragile world view, you've decided the only logical conclusion is I must be a paid puppet.

You need therapy breh.

Do it. OMG, do it

 

[SuperBigFan69]

Why does he keep ducking this simple question

Right? It is the total catch 22 for some people because they are so worried about saying "This current government might be lying about things"

It is like they don't realize that it is okay to admit that, it is okay to say "I am a Republican AND I think that sometimes Trump and his dudes are not telling the truth".

But they just can't seem to come to the conclusion.

It is like thinking that YOUR kids are the ones that never lie and of course would never ever lie to you...

 

[BleedRed89]

Whether or not Apollo 11 was faked, I am more interested in this self-growing city on the moon. Someone just discovered the fundamentals of celestial mechanics. Possibly between ketamine binges.

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I dont disagree with Musk on this. While his time lines are..aggressive. It should be our primary goal as a species to establish colonies off planet.

Hard to convince people to care about it though given the state of...everything else.

 

[BleedRed89]

Do it. OMG, do it

I'll start looking for someone in the region now...

 

[Neb79]

Right? It is the total catch 22 for some people because they are so worried about saying "This current government might be lying about things"

It is like they don't realize that it is okay to admit that, it is okay to say "I am a Republican AND I think that sometimes Trump and his dudes are not telling the truth".

But they just can't seem to come to the conclusion.

It is like thinking that YOUR kids are the ones that never lie and of course would never ever lie to you...

This is the thing! Their leader requires that they can never EVER admit that they could possibly be wrong. That’s how you knew that they would completely blow the Pretti incident. Instead of saying right off the bat that they would investigate and make sure the shooting was justified, they immediately went to smearing a US citizen that really didn’t deserve to be shot. A nurse that helped VA soldiers on hospice. And they still can’t just say “Welp, some ******** got carried away in the moment and did something regrettable”. Why not? Because the first rule of being in a cult is never admitting you could possibly be wrong.

 

[HuskerInCarolina]

I dont disagree with Musk on this. While his time lines are..aggressive. It should be our primary goal as a species to establish colonies off planet.

Hard to convince people to care about it though given the state of...everything else.

I just don't understand how we haven't colonized the moon in the last 70 years when I've been told many of the problems of this world are because of the white conqueror genes. Surely, we couldn't suppress that gene for this lone conquest when it couldn't be suppressed over the last 5000 years, as we're told. Besides, the moon needs liberation and it holds a critical location in intergalactic defense. ONWARD WE MARCH! (or fly)

 

[BleedRed89]

I just don't understand how we haven't colonized the moon in the last 70 years when I've been told many of the problems of this world are because of the white conqueror genes. Surely, we couldn't suppress that gene for this lone conquest when it couldn't be suppressed over the last 5000 years, as we're told. Besides, the moon needs liberation and it holds a critical location in intergalactic defense. ONWARD WE MARCH! (or fly)

There hasn't been much of a need to go back to the moon. Its expensive, and ultimately is just a large rock orbiting our planet.

I certainly dont think Id want to live on a moon colony. But you know what they say about keeping all your chickens in one basket...

Again though I think Musk is being incredibly aggressive with his timelines. Im not confident we'll see a proper colony on Mars in our lifetime, let alone in the next decade.

 

[HuskerInCarolina]

There hasn't been much of a need to go back to the moon. Its expensive, and ultimately is just a large rock orbiting our planet.

I certainly dont think Id want to live on a moon colony. But you know what they say about keeping all your chickens in one basket...

Again though I think Musk is being incredibly aggressive with his timelines. Im not confident we'll see a proper colony on Mars in our lifetime, let alone in the next decade.

incredibly aggressive is an understatement. He also said he believes like 90% of all jobs will be replace by AI by 2030 and we'll all live on a universal income with everyone making over $100k. LOL

 

[Anon1751408132]

I just don't understand how we haven't colonized the moon in the last 70 years when I've been told many of the problems of this world are because of the white conqueror genes. Surely, we couldn't suppress that gene for this lone conquest when it couldn't be suppressed over the last 5000 years, as we're told. Besides, the moon needs liberation and it holds a critical location in intergalactic defense. ONWARD WE MARCH! (or fly)

Probably hard to colonize an alien space station

 

[HuskerInCarolina]

Probably hard to colonize an alien space station

We need to conquer it first. Then we can colonize it. They need liberation and freedom seeds. I can feel it.

Plus, it'll help my stock in Lockheed Martin go...."to the mooooooon" lol