OT: My Son Is Accepted To Rutgers!!!

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Couple things here. You can come back to work if you want NY/NJ pay...don't have to stay down there for the rest of your life. But there are some great places to spend four years getting a great education. Almost every school is less diverse than Rutgers...but Rutgers does not represent the US or even NJ population in terms of its student body. There are tons of NJ kids at most of the SE schools. I think it can make a ton of sense. Visit some of these campuses and you will see what entices the NE kids. Campuses are beautiful, weather is great, sports are huge, education is great. I love RU...but I can certainly see what's so enticing.

It hasn't even snowed here yet. RU is about to go the tournament for the 3rd year in a row and previously took down Clemson twice as well as Wake Forest. Other than rebuilding football we're pretty good at everything.

Rutgers is a top 20 public school. Other than UNC, UF and UGA, all of which admit very few OOS students, you're not going to find that in the south.

Rutgers is actually very representative of the 18-21 demographic in NJ. In my personal experience, many of the people who leave are trying to avoid that fact.

If people have money to throw around on lesser colleges I would tell the kid go to Rutgers and put the money in a high yield savings and take it out for a down payment when they finish.
 
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I'm taking receipts for everyone that complains that Rutgers can't keep the top student athletes home. You all showing yourselves here.

The more fun comparison will be the thread where some of the same people tell other people's kids to go to community college or my personal favorite, no college at all.

For me and not for thee has been always been fun to watch on this board.

Could also be why donations lag. That tuition at East Carolina isn't going to pay itself, but Biff and Buffy didn't want cold winters and had to be with their pals.

And I'm definitely not saying any kid has to go to Rutgers. If my kid got into a Southeastern school like Duke, Emory or Vanderbilt I'd be ecstatic.

Things like taking a bus, cold weather, or an ugly building are real life. What myself and everyone else I know took away from RU are the education, the experience, the lifelong friendships. I went to HS with people who went to OOS schools elsewhere (in a number of cases they didn't get into RU to be fair) and they're behind those of us who did in those categories.
 

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Agree completely. My mom worked at RU so I was always going there. My parents recently commented that they don’t even remember me applying let alone helping me with the application, etc. It’s totally different now. Some of it is parent driven but it’s also a function of social media and peers. There’s so much out there about the college admission process.

BTW, my oldest is a D1 recruit (track) and has some very good opportunities because of it but it’s not really a significant factor in her decision making process.
Since we’ve been going through college apps it is way different then when I filled out my Rutgers app with a pen. And my parents never went to college so was also on my own for the most part. Our daughter at least my and my wife’s experience to help but it is a lot different now. School guidance counselors are often overwhelmed so although there is some help it’s limited, and we are in a really good school district. With less focus on standardized tests given that most schools are now test optional and a number test blind students need to figure out where to focus (essays, AP classes, extracurricular activities etc.) to give them the best chance at their schools of interest.
Probably because Miami isn't on the same level as the other two academically.
Miami is tied with Rutgers and 5 others in US News so academically is actually pretty good though those rankings are not the be all end all and need to take with a grain of salt. I’m slightly biased since went to Miami for grad school. But one consideration is also public vs private. Private schools often have more discretion at merit scholarships and if a student fits their profile can at times offer more than a large public. I’m sure Michigan has more resources overall but they also have way more students so that probably factors in.
 

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The more fun comparison will be the thread where some of the same people tell other people's kids to go to community college or my personal favorite, no college at all.

For me and not for thee has been always been fun to watch on this board.

Could also be why donations lag. That tuition at East Carolina isn't going to pay itself, but Biff and Buffy didn't want cold winters and had to be with their pals.

And I'm definitely not saying any kid has to go to Rutgers. If my kid got into a Southeastern school like Duke, Emory or Vanderbilt I'd be ecstatic.

Things like taking a bus, cold weather, or an ugly building are real life. What myself and everyone else I know took away from RU are the education, the experience, the lifelong friendships. I went to HS with people who went to OOS schools elsewhere (in a number of cases they didn't get into RU to be fair) and they're behind those of us who did in those categories.
People have been crushing Ash and Flood on this board for not keeping the top football players home yet telling their own kids to go elsewhere. Hate the double standard. I'll call it out every time. At least I'm consistent.
 

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Congrats proud
My son received his acceptance to Rutgers today!

Very excited!

Nothing else - just wanted to share my joy with the crowd here!
Congrats proud father and to your son. My Rutgers degree has paid many dividends for myself and my wife. May it do the same for your son.
 
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The more fun comparison will be the thread where some of the same people tell other people's kids to go to community college or my personal favorite, no college at all.

For me and not for thee has been always been fun to watch on this board.

Could also be why donations lag. That tuition at East Carolina isn't going to pay itself, but Biff and Buffy didn't want cold winters and had to be with their pals.

And I'm definitely not saying any kid has to go to Rutgers. If my kid got into a Southeastern school like Duke, Emory or Vanderbilt I'd be ecstatic.

Things like taking a bus, cold weather, or an ugly building are real life. What myself and everyone else I know took away from RU are the education, the experience, the lifelong friendships. I went to HS with people who went to OOS schools elsewhere (in a number of cases they didn't get into RU to be fair) and they're behind those of us who did in those categories.
Your last paragraph sums up why I love Rutgers. The experience was very real and applicable to real world experiences. I love warm weather too but between the food scene, proximity to cities and beaches, NJ is pretty darn good experience.
 
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I see what you did there, but they are two different things, aren't they?
And for families making well into 6 figures who have saved wisely for their children's college education, $44,000 is not a lot of money. Is it a lot of money for families and students who can barely afford Rutgers and in-state tuition? Sure it is.

But back to your $1.4M/1.85M comparison, at a certain income point, there is not a huge difference. For Kirk C (that's what this was about) who is in that late stage of his life earning potential, a superficial analysis of his take home pay is only a difference of $200K. Yeah, $200K is a lot of money. But depending on his tax situation and what type of house he buys, etc. that may or may not be a lot of money to him, especially if one job is better than the other. In some cases the higher-paying job is the "better" job, and in others, the lower-paying job is the better job.

Your homerism shines through with each successive post. It's college and a college town. It's 4 years of a young person's life. Watching this video, in all truthfulness, it looks to be a lot nicer than downtown New Brunswick when you take off your scarlet-colored glasses.

And Purdue is 120 miles from Chicago. Maybe you have heard of it. It's a big city like NYC. One can drive to Chicago in under 2 hours. It takes an hour plus to get to NYC from Cook Campus.

You do realize that for someone from NJ, they will be "home" on winter and summer breaks, and many tech companies will be lined up to hire Purdue engineering and STEM students. Such a parochial view of life you have.




Wut? Are we talking top students or top athletes? With some rare exceptions, they are mutually exclusive. Top students may wish to go somewhere else than stay close to home.


I'm absolutely a homer and damn proud of it. NJ all day. Nowhere better in America.
 
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I'm absolutely a homer and damn proud of it. NJ all day. Nowhere better in America.
Fair enough. But not everyone feels that way, and sometimes it is good for a young person to go away to college to see how great of a state NJ and the surrounding area is compared to other areas. I will say this much having lived in Cincinnati for less than a year. The winters are cold, dark and generally miserable. Sun seemed to go away before Thanksiving and was not seen again until late May. Confirmed this with a friend who grew up in Indiana.
 
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Whole college acceptance process is ridiculous and it’s about padding stats. My daughter is a senior. D1 athlete, near perfect student, #1 in her class. I told her to apply to some schools that haven’t offered her a soccer scholarship “just in case”. She got deferred from Richmond and that was her safety school. Asked guidance why and their response was you are over overqualified. They know you won’t go there and that hurts their stats if admitted. If you change your status to early admit 2 they will accept you tomorrow. So stupid
I have heard a lot of stories like this.. been kind of shocking that they won’t even try an aggressive offer

She sounds like a great catch for them - admit and offer a ton of merit based aid. My son applied to some schools with that hope - haven’t heard back from them yet.
 

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The more fun comparison will be the thread where some of the same people tell other people's kids to go to community college or my personal favorite, no college at all.

For me and not for thee has been always been fun to watch on this board.

Could also be why donations lag. That tuition at East Carolina isn't going to pay itself, but Biff and Buffy didn't want cold winters and had to be with their pals.

And I'm definitely not saying any kid has to go to Rutgers. If my kid got into a Southeastern school like Duke, Emory or Vanderbilt I'd be ecstatic.

Things like taking a bus, cold weather, or an ugly building are real life. What myself and everyone else I know took away from RU are the education, the experience, the lifelong friendships. I went to HS with people who went to OOS schools elsewhere (in a number of cases they didn't get into RU to be fair) and they're behind those of us who did in those categories.
That recommendation only comes up when you guys are complaining about college debt or the cost of college.
And I took my advice. My niece had a soccer scholarship but ended up hating the school. She came home and started talking about schools like Moravian and Scranton. I told her no chance, you are going to community college and then decide what state school you want to go to next semester.
 

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They pumped big money into the campus and the coop program is an attraction. Huge change over the last 40 years.
I think the low number last year was due to housing constraints. They are asking freshmen class to study abroad.
 

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I think the low number last year was due to housing constraints. They are asking freshmen class to study abroad.
I said this somewhere above about picking schools for majors (when the student knows what they want to do) versus picking schools for their brand name. Unequivocally would pick Northeastern over Boston College for computer science. People will say that is crazy, but their program with the coop is that good.
 

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I’m having a very difficult time with the thought of my daughter leaving, especially if she is 6 hours from us.
She is our only child.
Should I have another baby to distract myself? Get another dog? Apply to WVU and live off campus? Tell admissions she changed her mind. Clone her and live with an AI version?
Any advice? Therapist recommendations? Thanks
 

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I said this somewhere above about picking schools for majors (when the student knows what they want to do) versus picking schools for their brand name. Unequivocally would pick Northeastern over Boston College for computer science. People will say that is crazy, but their program with the coop is that good.

A coop program a T ride away from 128 for a computer science major? Damn straight
 
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I’m having a very difficult time with the thought of my daughter leaving, especially if she is 6 hours from us.
She is our only child.
Should I have another baby to distract myself? Get another dog? Apply to WVU and live off campus? Tell admissions she changed her mind. Clone her and live with an AI version?
Any advice? Therapist recommendations? Thanks


That's never easy. Of course if you think 6 hours is bad my sister now has 3 grads 750, 2000 and 3000 miles away. Maybe the 2 of you could get a volume discount on some RVs.
 
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That's never easy. Of course if you think 6 hours is bad my sister now has 3 grads 750, 2000 and 3000 miles away. Maybe the 2 of you could get a volume discount on some RVs.
There are some cheap accommodations around WVU:



Couches are heated too:

 
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A coop program a T ride away from 128 for a computer science major? Damn straight
FFriend's daughter went to Northeastern, majored in communications and co-oped with AppleTV, and now has a permanent job there.
 

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That's never easy. Of course if you think 6 hours is bad my sister now has 3 grads 750, 2000 and 3000 miles away. Maybe the 2 of you could get a volume discount on some RVs.
Told my wife if our daughter ends up in CA or OR for school which is likely we can take our travel trailer and visit and and also camp in some cool places too.
 
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I’m having a very difficult time with the thought of my daughter leaving, especially if she is 6 hours from us.
She is our only child.
Should I have another baby to distract myself? Get another dog? Apply to WVU and live off campus? Tell admissions she changed her mind. Clone her and live with an AI version?
Any advice? Therapist recommendations? Thanks
Forget the therapist, now that your daughter is going to be out of the house try something "different" with your wife.

 

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I’m having a very difficult time with the thought of my daughter leaving, especially if she is 6 hours from us.
She is our only child.
Should I have another baby to distract myself? Get another dog? Apply to WVU and live off campus? Tell admissions she changed her mind. Clone her and live with an AI version?
Any advice? Therapist recommendations? Thanks
Talk with your ex who should be able to relate. Remember there is face time and start preparation for weekend road trips.
 
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I’m having a very difficult time with the thought of my daughter leaving, especially if she is 6 hours from us.
She is our only child.
Should I have another baby to distract myself? Get another dog? Apply to WVU and live off campus? Tell admissions she changed her mind. Clone her and live with an AI version?
Any advice? Therapist recommendations? Thanks
I can empathize some.

I have a daughter who did a year of college (while at RU) in Australia. And is now across the country, as part of her PT PhD program doing PT at a clinic in an apparently very dangerous location.

And one of my sons is about to join the military hoping to be accepted into and make it through the training program for one of the most dangerous special operations MOSs. I'll be proud of him of course. But would be just as proud and lot less stressed if he was aiming for something a little less extreme. Unfortunately (for me), he has been doing well with all the pre-entry testing and it now seems he will be accepted into the program he wants (doesn't mean he'll make it through though the training - most people don't).

If he winds up where he hopes, he's likely to be not only very far away doing extremely dangerous stuff, but also totally out of communication for long periods of time. 😟

Having more kids might be the answer. Or it might just multiply the stress. Dogs might be less stressful.

We should probably have coffee and talk about it. 😃
 
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Since we’ve been going through college apps it is way different then when I filled out my Rutgers app with a pen. And my parents never went to college so was also on my own for the most part. Our daughter at least my and my wife’s experience to help but it is a lot different now. School guidance counselors are often overwhelmed so although there is some help it’s limited, and we are in a really good school district. With less focus on standardized tests given that most schools are now test optional and a number test blind students need to figure out where to focus (essays, AP classes, extracurricular activities etc.) to give them the best chance at their schools of interest.

Miami is tied with Rutgers and 5 others in US News so academically is actually pretty good though those rankings are not the be all end all and need to take with a grain of salt. I’m slightly biased since went to Miami for grad school. But one consideration is also public vs private. Private schools often have more discretion at merit scholarships and if a student fits their profile can at times offer more than a large public. I’m sure Michigan has more resources overall but they also have way more students so that probably factors in.

Yes- not that Miami is bad, I would consider it a peer academically of RU. Which is why I find it funny that NJ parents like it and don't mind paying sticker for it.

I would consider Michigan, UNC, UCLA, Berkeley and UVA the most prestigious publics. Then you have some smaller ones like GT and W&M. I would consider RU in the grouping just below that.
 
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That recommendation only comes up when you guys are complaining about college debt or the cost of college.
And I took my advice. My niece had a soccer scholarship but ended up hating the school. She came home and started talking about schools like Moravian and Scranton. I told her no chance, you are going to community college and then decide what state school you want to go to next semester.

I would not expect someone looking at Moravian and Scranton to be admitted to RU. However, such a student might get into a Rowan or Montclair or something, or at OOS public like WVU. Kids who don't get into RU is a different story.

Anyone who can get into RU or their state school in whatever state they are in should go tuition free. That is a different thing than Moravian which I've never even heard of.
 
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I’m having a very difficult time with the thought of my daughter leaving, especially if she is 6 hours from us.
She is our only child.
Should I have another baby to distract myself? Get another dog? Apply to WVU and live off campus? Tell admissions she changed her mind. Clone her and live with an AI version?
Any advice? Therapist recommendations? Thanks

Idk what kind of residency requirements WV has, but it wouldn't surprise me if you could buy a house somewhere in the state for the difference between OOS and in state tuition.
 

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Forget the therapist, now that your daughter is going to be out of the house try something "different" with your wife.

Woaaaa.. wife? Hopefully she comes with a dog.
Hahahaha
Idk what kind of residency requirements WV has, but it wouldn't surprise me if you could buy a house somewhere in the state for the difference between OOS and in state tuition.
This looks perfect.. I’d just need to update the bathroom. Are there day spas in West Virginia? https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/221-E-Main-St_Ronceverte_WV_24970_M35608-37338
 
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I would not expect someone looking at Moravian and Scranton to be admitted to RU. However, such a student might get into a Rowan or Montclair or something, or at OOS public like WVU. Kids who don't get into RU is a different story.

Anyone who can get into RU or their state school in whatever state they are in should go tuition free. That is a different thing than Moravian which I've never even heard of.
The point has nothing to do about Moravian but you obviously missed it. And since you never heard of Moravian how do you know their students wouldn’t get into Rutgers which my niece did as well as TCNJ.
 
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The point has nothing to do about Moravian but you obviously missed it. And since you never heard of Moravian how do you know their students wouldn’t get into Rutgers which my niece did as well as TCNJ.

According to Google the average SAT for Moravian is 1100. The average SAT for RU is over 1300. The average GPA at Moravian is 3.5 and at RU is over 3,7. So, yeah, anyone can see they're not on the same academic plain.

Now I'm sure there's NJ kids every year that get into RU and Harvard. Does that mean they're the same? Ofc not.

I'm sure there's kids that go to Monmouth or some similar school on a full ride that got into RU as well. Or kids at the RU honors college on full rides that got into ivy league schools. In my day before the honors college I knew of kids that got into ivies but chose RU because of the price.
 
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Yes- not that Miami is bad, I would consider it a peer academically of RU. Which is why I find it funny that NJ parents like it and don't mind paying sticker for it.

I would consider Michigan, UNC, UCLA, Berkeley and UVA the most prestigious publics. Then you have some smaller ones like GT and W&M. I would consider RU in the grouping just below that.
Throw in Wisconsin? It seems solid on all fronts.