OT: New York Mets 2023-2024 Off Season Thread

Doctor Worm

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The Ohtani sweepstakes begin tomorrow
Actually no, it begins five days from tomorrow. Tomorrow begins the five day grace period where the players have technically become free agents, but their former team retains exclusive negotiating rights. You may recall that last year, the Mets re-signed Edwin Diaz within this grace period. They did not let him hit the market.

The bazaar opens on November 7.
 

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CF Nimmo Set
SS Lindor Set
C Alvarez Set
1B Alonso new contract ? Massive trade ??

McNeil set somewhere ?? Depends on So many moves

Marte healthy ??
Mauricio where ?

DH free agent

3B ?? Baty ? Mauricio ? Free agent ?


Senga
Quintana
Free agent
Free agent

Then either Peterson or Megill. Can’t trust both for a full year


Bull pen

Diaz and who the hell knows
 

Doctor Worm

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CF Nimmo Set
SS Lindor Set
C Alvarez Set
1B Alonso new contract ? Massive trade ??

McNeil set somewhere ?? Depends on So many moves

Marte healthy ??
Mauricio where ?

DH free agent

3B ?? Baty ? Mauricio ? Free agent ?


Senga
Quintana
Free agent
Free agent

Then either Peterson or Megill. Can’t trust both for a full year


Bull pen

Diaz and who the hell knows
Interesting questions - my thoughts:

1) Alonso - neither new contract nor massive trade. He plays out the season and then we'll see.

2) McNeil will be used wherever needed, as in the past.

3) Even if Marte is healthy, I'm not sure he's a regular player any more.

4) Mauricio where? Maybe Syracuse. He and his .643 OPS have not yet earned a roster spot. Neither have Baty nor Vientos for that matter. Not saying they can't or won't earn it. Just saying they haven't - yet.

5) Would not be shocked if Matt Chapman is signed to play 3B. How much does Uncle Steve feel like spending?

6) I don't want a DH per se. I believe that every position player should be exactly that - capable of playing a position. Whoever needs a half day off is the DH. I will make an exception for Ohtani though! Although I think he stays on the west coast.

7) Yamamoto is our centerpiece free agent this year. We also sign a mid-back end of the rotation guy.

8) I expect Raley (team option) and Ottavino (player option) to be back.
 
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Doctor Worm

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Mesmerized Online is reporting that Counsell has given the Brewers a right of refusal. If they will match his best offer, which undoubtedly will come from the Mets, he will take it.
 
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Interesting questions - my thoughts:

1) Alonso - neither new contract nor massive trade. He plays out the season and then we'll see.

2) McNeil will be used wherever needed, as in the past.

3) Even if Marte is healthy, I'm not sure he's a regular player any more.

4) Mauricio where? Maybe Syracuse. He and his .643 OPS have not yet earned a roster spot. Neither have Baty nor Vientos for that matter. Not saying they can't or won't earn it. Just saying they haven't - yet.

5) Would not be shocked if Matt Chapman is signed to play 3B. How much does Uncle Steve feel like spending?

6) I don't want a DH per se. I believe that every position player should be exactly that - capable of playing a position. Whoever needs a half day off is the DH. I will make an exception for Ohtani though! Although I think he stays on the west coast.

7) Yamamoto is our centerpiece free agent this year. We also sign a mid-back end of the rotation guy.

8) I expect Raley (team option) and Ottavino (player option) to be back.
Answering 4 & 5 together: part of the reason the Mets seldom develop players from within the organization is because they rather sign players like Chapman. These guys block any chance a young player has making the big league club. Then fans wonder why they never develop. Maybe the Mets should take a longer look at the Braves and how they do things.

Before you say look at Pete, McNeil, and Nimmo, the Mets were looking at other options. McNeil survived despite the Mets having no faith in him. The Mets love Pete but did consider trading him even though he is and remains the only power threat on the team. The organization is still not sure about bringing him back. Nimmo was considered okay until he started playing regularly and his attributes shined to the point not signing him would have been a mistake.
 

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I don't really get why people would be against going after Ohtani... even if he ends up not getting his elite pitching ability back, he's still the best DH in baseball and a heck of a baserunner to boot, not to mention basically makes back all of his contract for the Mets in ticket and apparel sales globally. He's a win-win period and most likely should be able to successfully come back from TJ to pitch again, maybe even by the time the playoffs start which would be a huge boost.
 
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I don't really get why people would be against going after Ohtani... even if he ends up not getting his elite pitching ability back, he's still the best DH in baseball and a heck of a baserunner to boot, not to mention basically makes back all of his contract for the Mets in ticket and apparel sales globally. He's a win-win period and most likely should be able to successfully come back from TJ to pitch again, maybe even by the time the playoffs start which would be a huge boost.



If he can’t pitch no way I’m paying those dollars for a DH.
 

Doctor Worm

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Andy Martino reporting that managerial announcement is expected within the next few days. Looks like Craig Counsell or Carlos Mendoza, in that order.
 

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The 2023 Gold Glove winners were announced tonight, with no Met winners. However two former Mets won, Andres Gimenez and Zach Wheeler.

Only ten Met players have ever won the award, the last being Juan Lagares in 2014.
 

Doctor Worm

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I don't think I would bet that amount of money on a successful surgery and comeback.
He'll get Judge money (or close to it) just for his bat. On top of that he'll get a premium for the POSSIBILITY that he'll be the pitcher he once was. And then you throw in all his intangible financial value.

He'll still get the biggest contract in baseball history.
 

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He'll get Judge money (or close to it) just for his bat. On top of that he'll get a premium for the POSSIBILITY that he'll be the pitcher he once was. And then you throw in all his intangible financial value.

He'll still get the biggest contract in baseball history.
What's the highest contract a DH only has ever gotten? I'm not betting the house on a arm with a ton of mileage coming off TJ. I'm 100% in the take a pass on him.Let the Varsity sign him, they've done well signing DH only in the past. Lol
 

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Mets have hired Carlos Mendoza.

Counsell wanted to remain with the Brewers.