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yesrutgers01

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This one stings- and Stearns loses all credibility in my eyes with his smartest man in the room smirk.

All along- we don't go over 3 years, run prevention, etc...He is either FOS or got played. If Diaz signed for 4-5 years, then I give Stearns a pass for sticking to his guns but he signed for 3. And Stearns can't look us in the face and convince us that in year 3 Diaz wouldn't still be an elite closer. Ultimate run prevention player - and to make it worse...The Dodgers are a team we need to become better than- they had exactly one single weakness last year- their closer f-ing sucked. Now, you allow them to get an elite closer.

I do think the Schwarber talk was intended to get the Phil's to have to pay more but it also most likely strengthens Pete's case for 5 years.
If we lose both Pete and Diaz and don't bring in a guy like Bellinger, then Stearns is a damn fool and I will stick with that.

Does he think he should now just go with Vientos at 1B? Worse bat and worse run prevention or is he going to now have to suck up a 5-7 year contract with Alonso.
 
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Not a Stearns fan but Diaz wanted to be a Dodger. He shopped the Mets offer to the Dodger and Never gave the Mets a chance to counter.
 
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Doctor Worm said:
I too can't (and don't) believe that Stearns was unwilling to go 3/$69M. We don't know whether Stearns had the chance to match the offer Maybe Dia just wanted out. TBH, who wouldn't want to go to the Dodgers?
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Mets are a developmental team. Fans need to contribute more NIL. Oh, wrong thread, but right board.

Start a GoFundMe?
cubuffsdoug_rivals said:
Stearns SUCKS major D***!!!
I bet a large chunk of the money is deferred. It's the only way Diaz fits in without pushing the Dodgers closer to the Cohen tax. Meanwhile, small market Stearns continues to trip over dollars to claim that penny. Oh so helpful in building a championship team.🤬🤬🤬
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Donate more! See above.
 
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Quit your crying players come and go and after last year there was going to be a shakeup.

Complain on March 25th if nothing else changes.
 
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BigEastPhil

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Have become so disappointed in Stearns !

His continued small market approach ain’t cutting it !

Between the trade deadline disaster / not improving the SP last year / Montas signing / Devin Williams signing and now the icing on the cake ( Diaz) - I have had it with him.

I sincerely think he thinks he is the smartest guy in the world and he’s tone deaf !
 
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I do think Occam's Razor (look it up) applies here. Edwin Diaz simply preferred the Dodgers to the Mets. Not about money IMO.
 
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BigEastPhil said:
Have become so disappointed in Stearns !

His continued small market approach ain’t cutting it !

Between the trade deadline disaster / not improving the SP last year / Montas signing / Devin Williams signing and now the icing on the cake ( Diaz) - I have had it with him.

I sincerely think he thinks he is the smartest guy in the world and he’s tone deaf !
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Small market approach? Juan Soto might have some thoughts on that.
 
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Diaz preferred the Dodgers more than the Mets because they will use him as the CLOSER. Too often, Mendoza used Diaz in situations where he wasn't the closer. Poor management of the BP created that problem. Diaz is going to an organization that values a true closer and will do whatever it takes to put quality guys in front of him. I'm growing tired of Stearns acting as if he's smarter than everyone else.
 
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yesrutgers01

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Doctor Worm said:
I do think Occam's Razor (look it up) applies here. Edwin Diaz simply preferred the Dodgers to the Mets. Not about money IMO.
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So, now Stearns needs to figure out how to give us a WS championship team. No big deal.
Deep into playoffs for next year at least a bd WS Championship witching in the next 3…
 
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RUBob75 said:
We just lost the best closer in baseball! How do you replace him? Any relationship to Willis Never Ran?
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Mets have already replaced him with Devin Williams. Probably a downgrade, but who knows? Relief pitchers are SO volatile.

Would I prefer to have Diaz? Yes. But it takes two to tango, as the moderator of this thread can attest
 
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Stearns wants to win with great finds , great moves , and outsmarting everyone.
too many $oto moves would have too many people saying Stearns is nothing without cohen money
 
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RUBob75 said:
I firmly believe the Soto signing was at Uncle Steve's orders.
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On what basis do you say that?

If hypothetically, Stearns had said, "I don't want all those resources tied up in one player for all those years", do you really believe Cohen would have overruled him? I don't.
 
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Doctor Worm said:
On what basis do you say that?

If hypothetically, Stearns had said, "I don't want all those resources tied up in one player for all those years", do you really believe Cohen would have overruled him? I don't.
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Let's agree to disagree.
 
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cubuffsdoug_rivals said:
Diaz preferred the Dodgers more than the Mets because they will use him as the CLOSER. Too often, Mendoza used Diaz in situations where he wasn't the closer. Poor management of the BP created that problem. Diaz is going to an organization that values a true closer and will do whatever it takes to put quality guys in front of him. I'm growing tired of Stearns acting as if he's smarter than everyone else.
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Interesting theory. It is true that Mendoza did often use Diaz in non-save situations. Examples:

* Mendoza had gone on record that his threshold for using Diaz was a four run lead. Maybe five depending on the situation. Those are non-save situations.

* If Diaz was warming up in a save situation, and the Mets tacked on to make it non-save, Mendoza would usually bring him in anyway, since he was warm.

* Mendoza would routinely bring in Diaz in tie games, whether home or road. That is common practice at home. But on the road, many managers would wait to use their closer until they got the lead.

* Occasionally (but not often) Mendoza would use Diaz in the eighth, and someone else got the ninth. That could happen if the opponent's best hitters were coming up in the eighth. Or if the plan was to have him go two innings, but he threw too many pitches.

* And he would sometimes bring in Diaz while trailing, if he needed the work.

Whether any of this was a factor in his decision, I cannot say. I will say this. I will NEVER criticize a manager because he is unwilling to have his management decisions determined by a statistic.
 
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Now that they've lost Diaz, fans are going to be awfully ornery if they also lose Pete. Unfortunately, the Red Sox are really going to drive the price up.
 
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here’s the most recent reporting for anyone interested. Seems like he was annoyed the Mets didn’t reciprocate his desire to remain.

www.mlb.com

Díaz's Mets tenure ends after closer agrees to deal with Dodgers (source)

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Edwin Díaz's years-long run with the Mets, in which he entrenched himself as one of baseball’s top closers, has come to an end. Díaz agreed to a three-year, $69 million deal to join the Dodgers early Tuesday morning, multiple sources confirmed, ending his time in New York
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hbkmyr said:
here’s the most recent reporting for anyone interested. Seems like he was annoyed the Mets didn’t reciprocate his desire to remain.

www.mlb.com

Díaz's Mets tenure ends after closer agrees to deal with Dodgers (source)

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Edwin Díaz's years-long run with the Mets, in which he entrenched himself as one of baseball’s top closers, has come to an end. Díaz agreed to a three-year, $69 million deal to join the Dodgers early Tuesday morning, multiple sources confirmed, ending his time in New York
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I think Diaz expected his 2025 Met negotiations to mirror his 2022 Met negotiations. After the 2022 season, the Mets viewed Diaz as a MUST re-sign. They overpaid before he could get a sniff of free agency. But now, from the Mets perspective Diaz was clearly a nice-to-have, not a must have.

Diaz spent seven years with the Mets. One bad year, three outstanding years (one of which was the abbreviated COVID season), two solid years, and one injured year. The Mets had made him the highest paid reliever in the game once before, and were prepared to do it again. He wanted the Dodgers, who DID reciprocate. C'est la vie.

I would add that those anonymous quotes no doubt came from the Diaz camp. I honestly think his feelings were hurt. So he no doubt took the Mets offer, shopped it to the Dodgers, and closed the deal. All's fair, I guess.
 
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yesrutgers01

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Doctor Worm said:
I think Diaz expected his 2025 Met negotiations to mirror his 2022 Met negotiations. After the 2022 season, the Mets viewed Diaz as a MUST re-sign. They overpaid before he could get a sniff of free agency. But now, from the Mets perspective Diaz was clearly a nice-to-have, not a must have.

Diaz spent seven years with the Mets. One bad year, three outstanding years (one of which was the abbreviated COVID season), two solid years, and one injured year. The Mets had made him the highest paid reliever in the game once before, and were prepared to do it again. He wanted the Dodgers, who DID reciprocate. C'est la vie.

I would add that those anonymous quotes no doubt came from the Diaz camp. I honestly think his feelings were hurt. So he no doubt took the Mets offer, shopped it to the Dodgers, and closed the deal. All's fair, I guess.
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I think this is what is hurting Stearns- Diaz does seem like that emotional type and if he felt the Met's really did want him and didn't make him go through the dance so much, we would have loved to stay. Same with Pete. We see players take less to stay with their current team all the time because the leadership really makes them feel like they want them and treat them more like family rather than a replaceable part.

Myself- this is my new take going forward. Stearns has two years to make our team better than the Dodgers. Because, that IS HIS F-ING job. The goal is to become a WS Champion and be a consistent threat to get there. You can't do that if the Dodgers are the team to go through.

So- go ahead, take this winter. Save some money by not signing Diaz and Pete because you are worried about 4 years from now. Trade for a slick fielding 2B and move Nimmo for him. But currently, if Nimmo was a negative in the field, our starting LF is McNeil...Can't see that as an improvement. Vientos at 1B - negative at bat and field as well as base running compared to Pete. Hard to believe but true...But he is under control -yippee
We have a great fielding CF that can't hit. No idea what we have at Catcher. HOPING Baty's 2nd half is what we get going forward.
But heck- we have McLean and a bunch of others that we have no idea about.

Go get me an ACE pitcher, and get me someone like Bellinger. Maybe make some moves that really surprise some people and make everyone go- "Wow, didn't see that coming - but GREAT" - because, otherwise, I have no idea how we are even a winning team in 26. I am willing to let the Smirker prove everyone wrong. But he needs to show us his real end game. As I see ZERO moves from him so far that have been worthy of that smirk. Yeah- he signed Soto- and we all know he was not the one to make that happen, and Soto is a no brainer. I am struggling to find a FA signing or trade that he has done that the Met's clearly won.

We also talk of how the minor system has improved so much- but really, the young talent we are seeing were mostly here before Stearns.
 
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