Can’t even say that the Mets are the Pittsburgh Pirates when Pittsburgh and the Chicago White Sox have made better moves than the Mets
OT: New York Mets 2025-2026 Off Season Thread
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With the departures of Nimmo, Diaz, Alonso, and now McNeil, which current Met now has the longest tenured service? (Without looking it up.)
At least Zak is all for having the crappiest team in history with 2 HOF players in their prime on it.
What I see- and it is becoming clearer every day- Juan Soto was a great investment for a Casino complex.
Maybe we don't all feel like McNeil is the player we hoped for but he is solid at the plate- pretty much major league average, but he can play so many positions at least fairly well. But, let's dump him, pay almost 6mil to do so and get ???
Let's go run prevention and plan on 1B being played by guys that have played 1B less than Pete has missed games in his entire career. Let's play games with Diaz but heck save a couple of $$$ for 1 guy that failed in NY and another guy who failed down the stretch and in the playoffs.
Oh yeah- we lost out on a good playoff run, much less, missing the playoffs, because our starting pitching sucked, it wasn't Nimmo, Alonso, Diaz or McNeil, it was starting pitching and the pitching lab that said to put guys on base so they can't hit a HR...
Stearns just paid for the bag of balls they traded MeNeil for.
They have exactly 1 move this off season that makes sense and we are supposed to believe that Stearns is going to make it work....And let's also raise prices while we are at it.
Listen- I am old school and I am a fan. So yes, I do want to win. But I also want a team I want to win. Something has to happen to make many of us smack our heads and say- Damn, he is boy genius...because he is doing zero to show he gives 2 sH@ts outside of having expiring contracts.
What I see- and it is becoming clearer every day- Juan Soto was a great investment for a Casino complex.
Maybe we don't all feel like McNeil is the player we hoped for but he is solid at the plate- pretty much major league average, but he can play so many positions at least fairly well. But, let's dump him, pay almost 6mil to do so and get ???
Let's go run prevention and plan on 1B being played by guys that have played 1B less than Pete has missed games in his entire career. Let's play games with Diaz but heck save a couple of $$$ for 1 guy that failed in NY and another guy who failed down the stretch and in the playoffs.
Oh yeah- we lost out on a good playoff run, much less, missing the playoffs, because our starting pitching sucked, it wasn't Nimmo, Alonso, Diaz or McNeil, it was starting pitching and the pitching lab that said to put guys on base so they can't hit a HR...
Stearns just paid for the bag of balls they traded MeNeil for.
They have exactly 1 move this off season that makes sense and we are supposed to believe that Stearns is going to make it work....And let's also raise prices while we are at it.
Listen- I am old school and I am a fan. So yes, I do want to win. But I also want a team I want to win. Something has to happen to make many of us smack our heads and say- Damn, he is boy genius...because he is doing zero to show he gives 2 sH@ts outside of having expiring contracts.
Yeah I don't buy that one unless they're turning around Semien otherwise no spot as you said.
R Mets getting rid of a certain player type to keep Lindor happy ?
Nimmo Alonso McNeil ??
player who can play 7 positions and play them pretty well for a 17 year old bag of
d—ks who’s not even in A’s top 30
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Nimmo Alonso McNeil ??
player who can play 7 positions and play them pretty well for a 17 year old bag of
d—ks who’s not even in A’s top 30
Mike Francesa: Donald Trump at center of Brandon Nimmo-Francisco Lindor rift
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has zero to do with what Lindor or Soto want...Both have played on teams with white guys and both live lives that do not really include color barriers. and if anyone wants to try to "stereotype" - as you did...How does Pete and Diaz fit into this?R Mets getting rid of a certain player type to keep Lindor happy ?
Nimmo Alonso McNeil ??
player who can play 7 positions and play them pretty well for a 17 year old bag of
d—ks who’s not even in A’s top 30
Mike Francesa: Donald Trump at center of Brandon Nimmo-Francisco Lindor rift
Here is what I see- If Ash oh, wait, I mean Stearns, can get rid of anyone that he had no part to do with, he is going to do it at any cost. He can't get rid of Soto, or he would. And if he could find a way to get out of Lindor, he would.
And then we would have his group of temporary staffing to play. And the kids under control he can puppet.
So- as I said, I do want to win. But, I also want to like our team. And if there is a plan- F-ing show it soon....As of now- We get rid of one of the best closer in the game and a guy who is ingrained fans enjoyment and pride. We get rid of one of the best power hitter in the game who embraced NYC/Met's broke records and really ingrained himself into the fans, an OF who has been here forever and actually seems to still be very productive and ingrained into the fans. And another player who did lose some favor with the fans but has a L. Roberts type bat and plays almost every position well.
And we get- a closer who failed miserably in NY, another who had such a horrible 2nd half and playoff, a guy who hits on, but doesnt have a position, and costing $20M and a 2B who can't hit anymore but a really good fielder.
I don't see how "run protection" has been addressed. I don't see how starting pitching is being addressed, the lineup actually kind of sucks to a pittsburg level outside of Lindor/Soto and while we have a lot of "hopefully" good Relievers- we lost the elite closer.
But heck- we get a 4th rounder for Diaz, we get a "we don't know plus pay $5M) to get rid of McNeil- Alonso for nothing and maybe a fair tradeoff for Nimmo.
Is Stearns building to give up 2 years and then a dynasty for a decade or is he playing games here? And is Cohen really thinking of the Met's as a primary business or a means to an end that he accomplished and now- what he would normally do in his business- and look for it to be a loss leader or how he dumps it...
I don’t care who gets Mets a ring , always been front of jersey guy.
off-season not over but it would be nice to be aggressive and have team 95% set asap so lunatics like me can relax.
bellinger
Trade for starter
Sign Suarez or Valdez and all of the noise will go away , until then he will be the Milwaukee Moron with a stupid grin that makes you want to punch it repeatedly
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off-season not over but it would be nice to be aggressive and have team 95% set asap so lunatics like me can relax.
bellinger
Trade for starter
Sign Suarez or Valdez and all of the noise will go away , until then he will be the Milwaukee Moron with a stupid grin that makes you want to punch it repeatedly
LFGM !
Bellinger will be interesting. Tim Britton of the Athletic has predicted that somebody will give Bellinger seven years. FWIW, Britton correctly predicted that Alonso and Schwarber would get five.
I cannot imagine a universe in which Stearns gives Bellinger seven years. Will he offer him five?
Please don't lose any sleep about the fact that Yordan Rodriguez is not a top 30 prospect. 17 year old Latino signees almost never are. He got a $400K signing bonus, so somebody must have liked him. A lottery ticket. Maybe you'll hear his name again someday. Maybe you won't. Either way, no reason to call him a bag of whatever. He has always spoken highly of you.R Mets getting rid of a certain player type to keep Lindor happy ?
Nimmo Alonso McNeil ??
player who can play 7 positions and play them pretty well for a 17 year old bag of
d—ks who’s not even in A’s top 30
Mike Francesa: Donald Trump at center of Brandon Nimmo-Francisco Lindor rift
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I am willing to eat my words. But here is the thing- Met fans came out last year in full support- I mean, pretty much a sell out every single night. They raised prices again this year- we signed Soto last year.
We now have 2 HOF players on the team and an exciting young starter kike we havent had come up in a decade.
We bring in a couple of guys who will be gone in a year or two- get rid of a guy fans really wanted to watch have a historic career and certainly did not seem to be THE issue.
OK- McNeil is a guy we would hope to move. But let's not think Semien's proves to be a better bat(I hope so) but yes, Semien is a better glove- but only at 2B. We have a choice of Vientos or Polanco at 1B...that is not run prevention
And we hear of Bellinger? He is Pete's age and absolutely wants 5+ years and most likely more per year than Pete got.
If Stearns went out and did all this- but let's say he made the moves he has, signed Bellinger, and kept Pete. He still would need to get us a f-ing SP or two.
I am venting but I just wish they were honest- they are not looking to win in 2026. Looks doubtful they are looking at Polanco or Semien, as part of a long term solution either. Just say- we are tearing it down- and starting over. And the gut tells me- don't fall in love with any of the controlable players either as they will be dealt in the next couple of years as well.
Dude, you're on record. Another die-hard who dies easily and repeatedly, just spilling his blood all over this board day after day. Got it.
Dude- it is called being a fan and not a fantasy player.
Do you think what you just said is an insult to a long time real Met's fan?
If you are not spilling your blood for this team- then you really got nothing we want to hear.
These few guys are going to cry about almost everything into the new year and perhaps the spring. TBD.
Yep- let’s call it bitching instead…and until something improves this team, we should.
I still haven’t seen a move that has made us better.
If I had to make a prediction, I see the bloodletting as done except for maybe a Senga or Manaea trade if another team wants them. I can see a Luis Robert trade plus a Goldschmidt type signing and that will be it.
Most likely a disappointing offseason but the Mets seem to want to give Benge or Williams a shot in the OF, plus see what they have in McLean, Tong, Sproat and Scott. Fans excitement will need to centered around the young kids along with the development of the Batys, Vientos and Alvarez's already here. It will certainly be an interesting season.
Most likely a disappointing offseason but the Mets seem to want to give Benge or Williams a shot in the OF, plus see what they have in McLean, Tong, Sproat and Scott. Fans excitement will need to centered around the young kids along with the development of the Batys, Vientos and Alvarez's already here. It will certainly be an interesting season.
The idea of a total rebuild, with the richest owner in sports, in a major sports market (NYC) and a team that hasn't won a championship in 40 years, is a pretty tough pill to swallow.... especially after signing someone for $750M one year ago. What's the point of signing Soto, to set up a rebuild the very next season.
There's an article in the Athletic (behind a pay wall) in which Will Sammon and Ken Rosenthal quote an anonymous rival executive as saying that the trades tell you how big a **** show the Mets clubhouse was, calling it a disaster. It also quotes an anonymous person with the Mets saying that "we definitely tidied things up." My first speculation on this would be McNeil, since he's always seemed a bit odd. But that wouldn't be enough if these opinions are true. The team did plummet for over 3 months, so something was up--either personnel or personalities, or both. I actually find this to be an interesting off season. I'm interested to see where it goes and if Stearns continues to keep the prospects or finds a spot to deal them. He seems to be building a very attractive minor league system.
It seems like Stearns never really had a plan other than get rid of the core players from the prior regime. These moves are Ash-like, no matter what you say. What I've learned is that Stearns doesn't like to take accountability for things that don't go over well with others (fans, media, etc.). That smirk is a nervous thing someone does when they are uncomfortable and doesn't have answers. I will give him credit for building a strong minor league system, but none of that matters if the big league club stinks. Are the Mets now competing directly with Pittsburgh, Kansas City, or the A's? I thought that if you want championships, you compete against the Dodgers, the Bronx Wastelands, William Penn softies, the Cubs, Sherman's march to the sea, and the Red Sox.
Minor league deal. Nothing to get hung about, as we used to say, a really long time ago.
I still just sit here and ask- what is the real Stearns plan...Does anyone know it? What I see- he wants controllable players and contracts that are expiring. He is stuck with Soto and Lindor.
Has anyone seen a single thing that tells you he has a plan to win this year? I still hope he surprises but my fear is that a couple of the kids do become great players- McLean, Benge, etc and just as they get into those arbitration years and we have our homegrown stars again, they just get shipped out for the next cheap option.
I really want him to prove me wrong...But I do need to see it or hear him tell the fan base one single honest truth. We have some of us fans- going all in with him but even you guys can't tell us what his plan is....I only hear- wait and see, it is a long off season and he has done it before. Well- his teams do not win in the playoffs.
Has anyone seen a single thing that tells you he has a plan to win this year? I still hope he surprises but my fear is that a couple of the kids do become great players- McLean, Benge, etc and just as they get into those arbitration years and we have our homegrown stars again, they just get shipped out for the next cheap option.
I really want him to prove me wrong...But I do need to see it or hear him tell the fan base one single honest truth. We have some of us fans- going all in with him but even you guys can't tell us what his plan is....I only hear- wait and see, it is a long off season and he has done it before. Well- his teams do not win in the playoffs.
I hope so as well. But it is also very frustrating for fans. Because, it then becomes the Pete Alonso, Edwin Diaz type process again. A star FA goes into Feb without a solid offer and finally decides to take a short term contract but always have opt outs for both sides. And regardless on how they perform, I just feel that Stearns will not bring them back the following year with a better contract. So, we continue this cycle.
He is running it like a small market team. And I hear his advocates keep bringing up what he did for the Brewers. But, last I checked, the Brewers didn't win any championships while he was there. And that is what we are looking for. Forget the Soto contract - everything else he has done feels like the Coupons all over again.
Merry Christmas, let's hope we do find some good presents soon.
If politics had anything to do with a toxic clubhouse, that's criminal and maybe Stearns traded away the wrong players. I'm sure most teams in many sports have split political clubhouses and manage to leave that off the field. I'm guessing the Mets just keep inventing new ways to under achieve! https://nypost.com/2025/12/26/us-ne...campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app
We can see how the roster shakes out but McNeil and Polanco have the same WAR over the last two seasons. Polanco isn’t a versatile defender…he stinks in the middle infield. I don’t understand signing one for 20 million dollars a year and trading the other for a random 17 year old Dominican summer league pitcher. Valuing Polanco so much more than McNeil doesn’t make sense to me.
Also…this is NOT meant as a political discussion but I do find it interesting that Lindor’s wife is on Mamdani’s committee after the talks about possible clubhouse issues and potential political motives behind the issues.
Also…this is NOT meant as a political discussion but I do find it interesting that Lindor’s wife is on Mamdani’s committee after the talks about possible clubhouse issues and potential political motives behind the issues.
Exactly my feelings on both your take on the McNeil trade, the Polanco signing and of course how much politics might have played a role in a toxic clubhouse. With such a divide in the country on politics, is it really such a stretch to think it invades clubhouses where you're thrown together for 9 months a year?
Politics and everything else have been in clubhouses forever. I do find it interesting though, that Met's trade away or let the guys leave that they did and all of a sudden(outside of McNeil) we start hearing about Clubhouse problems. And we also hear that at the same time, Soto doesn't like how Lindor dresses.
Then, there are these quiet rumors that maybe the Met's may be open to discuss Lindor with teams. Nothing by anyone with credibility but you hear it around.
It is almost like the Met's are purposely letting rumors get out there.
Then, there are these quiet rumors that maybe the Met's may be open to discuss Lindor with teams. Nothing by anyone with credibility but you hear it around.
It is almost like the Met's are purposely letting rumors get out there.
I’m sure if the right offer came along - they’d trade Lindor.
Lindor will be 33 next season and Mets have a surplus of middle infielders.
I don’t expect a trade but I would not be shocked if a trade occurred
Lindor will be 33 next season and Mets have a surplus of middle infielders.
I don’t expect a trade but I would not be shocked if a trade occurred
Stearns literally wants nothing but expiring contracts and controllable players.
he may actually sign a good starter or two as the FA market has been very slow for SP’s but they will have mutual opt outs after the first year.
