Don't forget Clay Holmes and Christian Scott2025 Peralta 17-6 2.70 era
end of 24 manaea
Pre Alonso bad throw Senga
McLean
tong Peterson
pretty good upside
OT: New York Mets 2025-2026 Off Season Thread
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I’d love for Mets to sign Austin Hays. Say 2/24 type of deal.
Have heard rumors of Jake Meyers as well - which does not excite me.
I think the Mets expect Benge to make the club out of spring training. He probably ends up being the forth OF, while Taylor ends up starting in LF. That could quickly change, if he shows that he can hit.
If they need to grab another OF bat a month or two into the season, they’ll have options in AAA, or through waivers and trade.
Prospects are suspects. You never know their impact on the mlb level. I liked both but you gotta get this train moving forward.
Meet Tobias Myers, the other pitcher Mets acquired in Brewers blockbuster — who is more than throw-in
Freddy Peralta will give the Mets an ace in the hole, but the other right-hander New York is acquiring could also be valuable.
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I think they expect him to make it onto the major league roster next year but (absent a white hot spring) likely after the season starts. Benge struggled when promoted to AAA at the end of last year.
I think they said they will have Mauricio in AAA. They don't want him on bench and would rather he get consistent ABs.
If Mauricio can hit in the MLB level, i'd like to see them try him at 1B. He's a big dude, should be a good enough infielder based on playing SS, 2B, 3B... could be a future 1B if he can get his bat going
I don't want to get into a big debate but McLean was just a prospect you know. These guys have value and talent. I don't hate the move I like it because Peralta is a really good #2 but I'm looking at some comparable deals the past few years you can argue we slightly overpaid in prospect value so it leaves a bee sting that's all.
We had to make a move for a top SP and Peralta was pretty much top of the list. We do need to try to work out an extension. I don't like the idea of letting it play out to see if we can land Skubal next year as it would leave a stink on Peralta and doubt he would bother to wait on us. He is still young, so don't play games and if we can extend- do it asap.
As for the prospects - there is no way to know if we over paid until at least another year or two. Regardless, it is a move that needed to be made. We now have a chance to battle it out with the Braves and Phillies.
I still absolutely hate the short term contracts only mindset. We are going to go through this same crap pretty much every year- god forbid that Bitchette actually has a great year and becomes a fan favorite and ends up with the Dodgers in 27...
As for the prospects - there is no way to know if we over paid until at least another year or two. Regardless, it is a move that needed to be made. We now have a chance to battle it out with the Braves and Phillies.
I still absolutely hate the short term contracts only mindset. We are going to go through this same crap pretty much every year- god forbid that Bitchette actually has a great year and becomes a fan favorite and ends up with the Dodgers in 27...
I agree with the first part, but why did we spend years building up a top minor league system. I assume the organization had a goal to have prospects that can take the field in NY as well as being available to trade for major league ready pieces. If you have 5-6 top prospects, not every one can be penciled in for the big roster. Then you might be the Pirates. ( sarcasm).
In my opinion if we're trading our top tier prospects I would like the main player we get in return to have more than 1 year of control. If we work out an extension in the next few months it allays my slight concern. That's basically my only sticking point on this particular deal.
Separate from that overall the roster is looking pretty good. It's why most of us were saying let's wait until Opening Day to judge the roster and not after the first salvo of moves in October/November. I think we might get a minor bat for LF/bench bat in case Benge isn't ready like @Doctor Worm but otherwise seems pretty set.
Good as a starter 2 years ago. But mostly a reliever last year where he was really good. Struggled in 6 appearances as a starter.Meet Tobias Myers, the other pitcher Mets acquired in Brewers blockbuster — who is more than throw-in
Freddy Peralta will give the Mets an ace in the hole, but the other right-hander New York is acquiring could also be valuable.
Has 6 pitches and a below average fastball which makes me think starter, but results maybe suggest reliever.
Here is the Pipeline list ranking the top 10 OF in the minors. As a reminder they had Mclean #1 RHP, Tong #7 RHP, Clifford #5 1B, Reimer #2 3B. We did not have any LHP, C, 2B, or SS on the lists. Full top 100 out on Friday.
The Top 10 (ETA)
1. Max Clark, Tigers (2026)
2. Walker Jenkins, Twins (2026)
3. Josue De Paula, Dodgers (2027)
4. Carson Benge, Mets (2026)
5. Zyhir Hope, Dodgers (2027)
6. Eduardo Quintero, Dodgers (2028)
7. Braden Montgomery, White Sox (2026)
8. Owen Caissie, Marlins (2026)
9. Lazaro Montes, Mariners (2027)
10. Chase DeLauter, Guardians (2026)
The Top 10 (ETA)
1. Max Clark, Tigers (2026)
2. Walker Jenkins, Twins (2026)
3. Josue De Paula, Dodgers (2027)
4. Carson Benge, Mets (2026)
5. Zyhir Hope, Dodgers (2027)
6. Eduardo Quintero, Dodgers (2028)
7. Braden Montgomery, White Sox (2026)
8. Owen Caissie, Marlins (2026)
9. Lazaro Montes, Mariners (2027)
10. Chase DeLauter, Guardians (2026)
If we stop here- what does our current lineup look like? Zak seems to have the most likely...Though, I may go Soto 2 and Bitchette 3 only because Bichette is really good with men on base. Otherwise - if Lindor and Bichette makes outs leading off- Our first inning may always look like out/out/walk This could go one of two ways- Polanco/Semien/Vientos/Baty/Roberts have career years of we have a horrendous 4-9 - This is not a lineup that will strike fear in anyone but may have potential. Really do wish Stearns didn't hate on Pete so much.
Lindor
Bichette
Soto
Polanco
Vientos
Semien
Baty
Robert Jr
Alvarez
With Peralta - our SP looks much better - Peralta/McLean/Senga/Manaea/Holmes(I actually think he has a good year) and Peterson
The other pitcher we got in the trade makes the BP look much better too- but the biggest key to the season now is Williams.
Lindor
Bichette
Soto
Polanco
Vientos
Semien
Baty
Robert Jr
Alvarez
With Peralta - our SP looks much better - Peralta/McLean/Senga/Manaea/Holmes(I actually think he has a good year) and Peterson
The other pitcher we got in the trade makes the BP look much better too- but the biggest key to the season now is Williams.
Steve Philips this morning suggested go all in and sign Framber then trade Tobias Myers , Peterson , Holmes ??? for a LF.
Sign Hays like suggested above 2-24 to platoon with Benge and see who emerges as full time starter
Sign Hays like suggested above 2-24 to platoon with Benge and see who emerges as full time starter
Pitching wins championships IMHO so I’m 99.9% behind this (won‘t be too thrilled if they can’t resign).
Still feels like the LAD invitational, so I’ll only get so giddy, but at least there’s hope now for the near future.
Still feels like the LAD invitational, so I’ll only get so giddy, but at least there’s hope now for the near future.
outside of the first 3 batters - is there anyone that any pitcher is going to worry about. I would be ok with it if we Had Keith Hernandez at 1B and a solid LF're - then we could at least say we had a really good defense. Man, we really need to hope that the last 6 hitters figure something out.
The team looks much better than it did a couple of weeks ago- and Peralta and Myers really help the pitching but the lineup and defense scares the **** out of me. Polanco is the only guy that had a good year last year. But, we are deciding to play him at a critical position that he has never played before.
My initial feel after getting Peralta was that maybe Stearns has it figured out...but when that wore off- this lineup sucks. We have 2 infielders playing positions they have never played and no LF...
Should be a minimum % revenue spend for the bottom franchises (wait until after Mets win title)
this trend only ends in a lockout with a salary cap and floor implemented
this trend only ends in a lockout with a salary cap and floor implemented
The Players Association (aka union) will fight that to their last breath. They will die on that hill.
I would bat Soto ahead of Bo. His OBP is 30 points higher than Bo’s. If they want to walk Soto 100+ times then let them face a .300+ average guy. Polanco should be the greatest beneficiary of having those two bat ahead of him. I’m expecting a 25hr/40 2B year from him.
I’m going to miss Pete, but I’m not sure that he’s a 35hr/40 2B hitter without Soto.
This lineup will hit less hrs than last season, but guys like Bo, Polanco and Simian really grind out at bats. I’m excited to see how differently the team plays next season.
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After the big three this is how it breaks down
2025: Nimmo, McNeil, Vientos, Baty, Alvarez, Taylor
2026: Polanco, Roberts, Semien, Baty, Alvarez, Taylor
Polanco, Roberts and Semien are better than Nimmo, McNeil and Vientos.
The lineup is deeper this year than last year so stop we get it you loved Pete but on paper the lineup has greater length this year than last year. Also, besides Semien we got younger and more athletic.
2025: Nimmo, McNeil, Vientos, Baty, Alvarez, Taylor
2026: Polanco, Roberts, Semien, Baty, Alvarez, Taylor
Polanco, Roberts and Semien are better than Nimmo, McNeil and Vientos.
The lineup is deeper this year than last year so stop we get it you loved Pete but on paper the lineup has greater length this year than last year. Also, besides Semien we got younger and more athletic.
Not sure who gets traded but If Benge is going to be the guy, I’d like a RH hitting Leftfielder who can kind of platoon with him to give him some days off against tough lefties.
That could be Taylor. While he was never a great hitter, up until last year he was pretty much league average. He had a terrible year last year. If he could revert to league average, then problem solved.
Top 100 players right now has been fully announced. Mets have four:
#6 - Juan Soto
#11 - Francisco Lindor
#48 - Bo Bichette
#63 - Freddy Peralta
And some former Mets:
#33 - Pete Alonso
#40 - Pete Crow-Armstrong
#50 - Jacob deGrom
#51 - Zack Wheeler
#83 - Edwin Diaz
#6 - Juan Soto
#11 - Francisco Lindor
#48 - Bo Bichette
#63 - Freddy Peralta
And some former Mets:
#33 - Pete Alonso
#40 - Pete Crow-Armstrong
#50 - Jacob deGrom
#51 - Zack Wheeler
#83 - Edwin Diaz
Mets acquire journeyman backup infielder Vidal Brujan from Twins for cash. Richard Lovelady DFA'd. Au revoir Dicky, until we meet again.
This reminds me how much I don’t miss Eppler and his sports-radio-pleasing transactions.
Almost exactly the same numbers last year...here is their combined stats averaged out - and there is the issue...we really did not improve the middle of the lineup at all and that was a problem last year.
Nimmo/McNeil/Vientos
| AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | BB | SO | BA | OBP | OPS |
| 470 | 56 | 117 | 23 | 2 | 18 | 69 | 6 | 43 | 104 | .249 | .313 | .743 |
Polanco/Semien/Robert Jr.
| AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | BB | SO | BA | OBP | OPS |
| 441 | 59 | 106 | 19 | 0 | 18 | 64 | 17 | 44 | 96 | .240 | .311 | .723 |
Also- thinking about some of these moves- I love having Peralta on the team- we needed him. But we traded away two top prospects and knowing that Stearns does not do long term contract - he is most likely a 1 year rental.
Bichette- $42 mil - love the player but wow, but he can also opt out - maybe a 1 year guy
Robert Jr. he can be bought out next year for $2 mil - most likely a 1 year player
Leads me to ask- is this team good enough to make the World Series as we are built like a "win now" team with a 1 year window. Unless all of the kids we have turn into PCA and Skenes...
Bichette- $42 mil - love the player but wow, but he can also opt out - maybe a 1 year guy
Robert Jr. he can be bought out next year for $2 mil - most likely a 1 year player
Leads me to ask- is this team good enough to make the World Series as we are built like a "win now" team with a 1 year window. Unless all of the kids we have turn into PCA and Skenes...
Polanco, Robert, and Semien had a combined 5.8 fWAR last year.
Nimmo, McNeil, and Vientos had a combined 5.5 fWAR last year.
If you go back to the last two years combined...
Polanco, Robert, and Semien- 11 fWAR
Nimmo, McNeil, and Vientos- 13.3 fWAR
Nope- purely commenting on the team we have today. I really like Parolta and Bichette but not so sure we have either past this year.
Though, I can’t see anyone giving Bichette more than $42 mil on a long term so he may be smart not to opt out and will still be young for his next contract.
Sorry, but still wounded. Stearns does not give out long term contracts, even though he gave a 15-year deal to Soto. We gave up two prospects, even though the pitcher is 25, pitched to an ERA over 4 last year in AAA, and the rest of the well-stocked minors is intact despite a major overhaul of an 83 win team. The kicker--despite a well-developed minor league system, the team is built to win now.
Ever since Pete left you fashioned a host of odd opinions and state them rePETEdly in every post. You have the right. But also . . . . Pete, Pete, Petey, Petey, Pete, Pete.