Prefer Vientos gone to Baty (I can't stand slower than dirt base-runners unless they can mash countless HRs a year like Alonso). But if Bichette is taking over 3B, it will likely be Baty that is gone.
OT: New York Mets 2025-2026 Off Season Thread
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Seems like it wasn't in the bag until after Tucker decision. Phils had offered Bichette 7 years $200 million and thought they had it done until Mets came in.
Yes Baty and Vientos could be moved now for CF or SP or they keep both. Still moves to be made.
Ewing is more of a CF fit than Jett. You have Benge as well who might be up before the other two. In order of CF I would say Ewing, Benge, Jett only because Jett hasn't received that much time in the OF yet. Will all depend on how the rest of the off-season goes.
This is why I was preaching patience since November that we need to see the whole team in totality when ST begins.
Noticed they have brought in a lot more contact oriented lower K guys in these moves.
A good thing happened for the Mets and I was patient. Man I hope that works the same for Rutgers
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Some trades are coming, but any respected GM will hold Stearns hostage.
So much for run prevention.
Stearns is a liar. You'll earn more respect by being up front, like I never wanted Pete.
Terrific pivot to Bichette !
To do List: Trade for Peralta / Sign Zak Gallen / Sign Austin Hays for LF / Improve Bullpen / Trade Vientos for OF or Pitching and we’re good for 2026 !
Hopefully Mets prefer Baty over Vientos and move Baty to 1b and not OF
To do List: Trade for Peralta / Sign Zak Gallen / Sign Austin Hays for LF / Improve Bullpen / Trade Vientos for OF or Pitching and we’re good for 2026 !
Hopefully Mets prefer Baty over Vientos and move Baty to 1b and not OF
Seems you have been issuing many a Stearns warnings in this thread. . . .
I don't usually follow the off season moves. But this season seems very different. Diaz gone, Pete gone. In an article in The Athletic, they speculated Bo would go to 3B and Baty to outfield?
I think Baty to 1b / dh with Polanco
Still need an OF so sign Austin Hays to LF and or trade Vientos and other consideration for Robert or more for Duran whose name always appears to come up.
It was pretty obvious to everyone that he doesn't value Alonso the same way as some Mets fans.
Stearns has sold everyone on this run prevention, and all he has done is make the defense more questionable than at any time under his leadership. The run prevention starts with pitching. He replaced Diaz with Williams, who flaked out at times with the Yankees. You're going from a solid closer to a shaky one. I haven't even mentioned the issue with starting pitching. The pitching lab has been suspect at best. When will Stearns address the mess he created? He doesn't want to take responsibility for signing cheap-*** pitchers who were bad before signing with the Mets and continue to fail here. That would make him a failure, so Stearns pivoted to blaming Pete, Nimmo, McNeil, and everything else for the team's failure except himself. What the hell do you call the moves Stearns made at the trade deadline? Just like Dorothy ain't in OZ no more, neither is Stearns in Milwaukee. I almost wished Eppler was still here,... another nightmare.
What I find most interesting is that the minor leagues are now loaded, from bottom to top, and we haven't touched it yet in this off season. When you tune out the low-level hummmmmm from the sports-radio-like fans and some on this board, this is a fascinating off-season to watch unfold.
I just want everyone to know that there is function that allows you to adjust the font and type size in your posts so that everything is consistent. I'm always here to help with important things like that.
In any case, good signing for the Mets and it gives them flexibility with future moves.
In any case, good signing for the Mets and it gives them flexibility with future moves.
Diaz is hardly a solid closer. How quickly we forget that we wouldn't know which Diaz was going to show up until the first few pitches.
Stearns does not believe in paying pitchers long term contracts. He sees them as much more interchangeable. Now maybe Skubul or might be different. But don't expect anything more than a 2-4 year deal.
In the field, he values guys that have more than one top/elite skill over ones that do one thing really well. This is why Alonso isn't on the team but a guy like Sieman/Bichette is on the team. That is also why I would suspect that Vientos will be traded.
I hear you, but Baty was hardly gonna be Brooks Robinson out there. Defensively, a wash. Huge upgrade at second and upgrade at first.
Also the pitching lab isn't just for FA starters. It's not a coincidence McLean, Tong, Sproat, and a bunch of other guys in farm took off starting last year. They are going to be developing arms every year either to come up or trade. They will be drafting projectable arms with tools they know they can mold into useful pitches. I am not going to bore you with newer age stuff but things like shape, plane, and a lot of those other newer buzz words you might read here and there now are going to be seen a lot.
Speaking of meant to share this earlier. Get to know the names if you haven't already.
Speaking of meant to share this earlier. Get to know the names if you haven't already.
Stearns doesn't value his mother other than she gave birth to him.
Diaz has been one of the most consistent closers since he became a Met. Diaz signed a 3-year deal. It wasn't true that he would only sign for nothing less than 5 years. All Stearns has done is change the side pieces. He has yet to address the main issue, PITCHING.
My point is, Stearns sold people on run prevention, and that is far from the truth. You have two corner positions where the players have no experience. We know Pete isn't a good 1B, but he's better than the guy who replaced him. Add the fact that none of the guys signed after his departure are similar threats or produced at his level. I'm not married to Pete, but don't lie to the degree Stearns has.
If any of these names (the Coupons, Eppler, or Stearns) are spoken again, WE ARE FIGHTING!!!
That goes for everyone.
That goes for everyone.
It's good to see you still support Stearns and feel good about the direction. But the whole idea behind letting Pete go was that we had to focus more on run prevention. It seems to me, Baty at 3rd and Alonso at first is a better defensive combination than Bichette at 3rd and TBD at First. And we probably keep Pete if we matched the Orioles offer, which seems pretty cheap compared to what they offered Tucker and paid Bichette.
USA Today: as of today
Mets projected starting lineup with Bo Bichette
- Francisco Lindor, SS
- Juan Soto, RF
- Bo Bichette, 3B
- Jorge Polanco, 1B
- Marcus Semien, 2B
- Mark Vientos / Brett Baty, DH
- Francisco Alvarez, C
- Carson Benge, LF (prospect)
- Tyrone Taylor, CF
It's not the whole idea only a part of it. They clearly didn't think his profile would age well and wanted the team to get more athletic with a lower K rate. Less base clogging etc. Until we see the D we won't know if better but on paper I would say it slightly is with more moves to be made. Also less of Vientos at 3B will help.
Ronnie needs to be able to hit a curve before he ever gets serious playing time
He can hit a 110 mph fastball but looks foolish on off speed pitches
make a mistake on fastball location Ronnie can hit it 440ft like he did in Colorado
Diaz is not a solid closer! What planet have you been living on?
In the 2025 MLB season, New York Mets closer Edwin Díaz had a dominant year, finishing with a 1.63 ERA, 28 saves, 98 strikeouts in 66.1 innings, and a strong 38% strikeout rate, solidifying his elite status with a low WHIP of 0.87 and helping the Mets. He was a top reliever, ranking among the league's best in ERA and strikeouts, noted for his fastball and slider.
I do like Bitchette but still confused on run prevention... We now have a player at 1B that has played a total of 1 inning there. We have a 3B that has never played 3B in the majors. we have a LF who has never played the position and a RF who isn't really that good there.
At C - things havent changed much but the lineup needs the guy who not that good of a catcher- we have a CF that is a 4th OF at best and at least we do have two run prevention players at SS and 2B...
If we were going to drop 220 mil on Tucker- I would have been much more confident if we put that money into Pete and Bitchette.
At C - things havent changed much but the lineup needs the guy who not that good of a catcher- we have a CF that is a 4th OF at best and at least we do have two run prevention players at SS and 2B...
If we were going to drop 220 mil on Tucker- I would have been much more confident if we put that money into Pete and Bitchette.
Nothing makes these fossils happy they just want their HR hitting hero Alonso back and that is all that matters.
Alonso RISP .309 14 HR 87 RBI 1.035 OPS
Nimmo .310 8 HR 71 RBI .888 OPS
McNeil .278 44 RBI .862 OPS
2 sides to every story
We could take losing Pete, if it just made any sense and the GM didn't make **** up as to why. OK- so he is gone- at least fill in the team with players that play the positions we need.
I liked Pete a lot and really wanted him back. So I'm not happy he left. That said, I don't agree that the whole idea behind letting him go was run prevention. I think the front office and ownership want a number of things. We've been seeing before our eyes that they don't like long term deals for players over 30, and Pete's 31. I think they don't like the way that the team is constructed, and they also don't want to clog the way for the strong group of young talent that they've assembled. And, yes, they want to prevent more runs, and if you saw the final 90 games last year you'd be a fool to disagree. They have shown that they're ready to spend big time, but they want to do it smartly and put it in the right places. I don't expect them to be perfect, but I expect that in the long run they'll be better at it than most front offices. I'm not a baseball personnel expert. But one thing I do know is that when GMs are making moves that the media, fans and sports radio recommend, you've got a bad GM. So I'm happy that's not happening--it seemed to happen a lot with that guy Eppler.
I truly find this off season fascinating.
I guess in your mind last season doesn't count!You understand that he pitched more seasons than the last one, right?
because he may get more that $40Mil + in his next couple? He isn't a $40 mil player- he would be crazy to opt out.
Frankly, other than last year--and I know that's a big "other"--Williams's numbers have been incredible.
I don’t believe Mets will spend big $ on Bellinger given Bichette deal.
I can see 2nd tier free agent signings such as Zak Gallen / Austin Hays etc.
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here is the riddle though- I agree "run prevention" was really a smoke screen- the real thing is exactly what you also stated, they want short term controllable contracts. It is more that they like to act like we are all idiots and Stearns smartest man in the room smirk, is what pisses fans off. That said- Pete is one of those home grown stars that you sometimes need as a fan base. Baseball- more than any other sport is what you may call a "romantic" sport. This fan base has had to live through losing so many home grown stars and our team records reflect it.
Pete was maybe the most consistent player we have had over the years, loved being a Met, played every single day.
Stearns made it personal. As for making room for the younger guys- I get that, but we have no one ready to step in for Pete and we have not addressed that hole.
And ok- we now have Semien, Bitchette, Sotto, Lindor...not too bad, but, we have done nothing for the group that lost the season for us.
I also would love to see Benge, Baty, Williams, Vientos, Mauricio, McLean, Tong, Sproat all become superstars as well but hope that as soon as they do get to their next contract, we don't play games with them...