OT: NJ drivers may soon have to do something they're not used to: pump their own gas.

RedTeamUpstream94

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The lines will be annoying since most people won't know how to do it.

to the contrary - (1) you can pull up and start pumping (wont have to wait...sometimes minutes...for the guy to finally get to you) and (2) once the filling is done you can put the nozzle back and leave (again, not have to look around for the guy thinking "where the hell did he go?!?!")
 

koleszar

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I already self-serve. But it's diesel. Actually, had an attendant yell at me once that he'd lose his job. Told him don't worry it's not against the law and if his manager had a problem tell him to learn the law.

What I hate is they really need to up the automatic shut off number of $100. That used to fill up my trucks but now I need about $150. It's a pain in the *** to go through the process all over again.
 

RUScrew85

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FREEDOM!!!

 

RUScrew85

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guess this is bound to happen
The days of HS students playing gas jockey for pay isn't the same as it was back in the day
when I pumped gas, checked the oil and tires for gas money.

Dude, HS students don't work anymore.
 
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Section124

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Yeah, article said some smaller gas stations have had to close pumps because they couldn't find help. Mandating full service is absolutely silly in that environment.

It saves time and is more efficient.
The problem here is some smaller stations don't have the credit cards hooked up to the pumps. They run the card in their booth.
 

fsg2_rivals

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The problem here is some smaller stations don't have the credit cards hooked up to the pumps. They run the card in their booth.

That is a problem ..that they really need to fix yesterday. I haven't had to run a card like that since maybe 2005.
 

Zimm80

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I already self-serve. But it's diesel. Actually, had an attendant yell at me once that he'd lose his job. Told him don't worry it's not against the law and if his manager had a problem tell him to learn the law.

What I hate is they really need to up the automatic shut off number of $100. That used to fill up my trucks but now I need about $150. It's a pain in the *** to go through the process all over again.
I guess we’ll be filling our own DEF tanks by ourselves , the thing about filling a truck with 2 tanks is it’s time consuming and there seems to be grease on those nozzle handles all the time & they pump very strong so you have to watch them otherwise you’ll have diesel all over the place, not to mention diesel on your hands is not pleasant on the nose.
 

rurichdog

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The problem here is some smaller stations don't have the credit cards hooked up to the pumps. They run the card in their booth.
They can stay full service, or their station owner can upgrade their ancient pumps...or go out of business.
 

Section124

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They can stay full service, or their station owner can upgrade their ancient pumps...or go out of business.
Very true. However those stations have the new pumps, just never turned on the credit card functionality. Good point that maybe it's not turned on because of full service and no need to activate 4 terminals when 1 would suffice.
 

RULoyal

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I typically get my gas at the same station and maybe once a month I have to wait more than a minute for the attendant.
 

NickRU714

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  1. Will there be any full-service stations anymore then? I don't travel a lot (mostly only to Virginia) but don't think I've ever seen a full-service attendant at a gas station outside of NJ.

  2. My first thought is of my 89 year old Nonna who came over on a boat from Italy in the 60s. She is not going to be able to pump her own gas. Do old people in other states really pump their own gas?
 

NickRU714

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3. Will this mean more gas stations are open 24hrs or later? No longer need to actually pay for an attendant.
 

ashokan

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I won't tell the story again but my wife had to learn this the hard way. Our SUV had to get towed and all fuel removed from the lines and tank. Me, "the nozzle is a different size." Her, "I forced it in".
Oh boy - I'm sure its a mistake more than a few made. I almost did it once when they first came out with the duel pumps
 

dconifer0

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  1. Will there be any full-service stations anymore then? I don't travel a lot (mostly only to Virginia) but don't think I've ever seen a full-service attendant at a gas station outside of NJ.

  2. My first thought is of my 89 year old Nonna who came over on a boat from Italy in the 60s. She is not going to be able to pump her own gas. Do old people in other states really pump their own gas?
In Maryland, lots of places also have full-serve available. Not all, though...
 
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RC1991

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We were down in Oregon last week doing college tours and after living in WA for 6+ years I forgot that there are parts of Oregon that are full serve. Had to get gas in Eugene and it was a full serve station. They did at least have pay at the pump but was kind of dumb to be standing there and watch the attendant start the pump and then wait for him to come back when the tank was full. Much prefer self serve though we don’t generally have to get out of the car in sub zero temps in this part of the country.
 

RUScrew85

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  1. Will there be any full-service stations anymore then? I don't travel a lot (mostly only to Virginia) but don't think I've ever seen a full-service attendant at a gas station outside of NJ.

  2. My first thought is of my 89 year old Nonna who came over on a boat from Italy in the 60s. She is not going to be able to pump her own gas. Do old people in other states really pump their own gas?

The need for the transition in service will be the demand that dictates a transition and not a straight cutoff. Nonna will be fine - maybe not at every station but surely at some.
 
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I can see it now , a Karen driving down the highway with a nozzle & hose still attached to his or hers gas tank .
If someone is going **** it up it will be a Karen!😆
 

kapyoche

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This will lead to a lot of divorce since Jersey women are not going to do it.

Women think pumping gas is man's job like taking out trash.

And any man that does not do it will be dumped.

I do trash right now. I don't want to go pump gas for my wife.

This law will lead to a lot of domestic violence.

Just leave it as is.
 
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RUBlackout7

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Pumping your own gas sucks. Even if this passes I’m willing to go far out of my way to get it pumped for me.
 

Yeah Baby

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No issue pumping my own gas. I will shop for American made gas to pump if possible. That is a much bigger issue. Full serve is a luxury not a need.
 
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Actually #6 is legit. Add to that I like to pay cash for the lower price, and that's been a pain in the *** as some of the self-serve states I've travelled through
I read a long time ago that is not entirely true. NJ enjoys independent gas station owners, which help to keep prices competitive. In other states, the big gas corporation owns most gas stations and sets the prices higher to earn more profits, and that's with no gas attendant. No middle-man (owner), more money.
 

MulletCork

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I worked one summer pumping gas at a tiny one person gas station in rural Hunterdon County. Type of place we checked and filled your oil and put air in your tires. Fun gig for the summer. I actually got tips, someone once left a Penthouse in my Jeep, got a couple full beer cans thrown at me from route 202 and offered to smoke some herb from some people I let sit in the air conditioning when their car broke down. Boss would come by at closing time sometimes with a few beers to get outta the house. All in all a fun summer gig. Also stole Snapple out of the vending machine daily. You just had to stick your arm up in those back in the day.
 

mdk02

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I read a long time ago that is not entirely true. NJ enjoys independent gas station owners, which help to keep prices competitive. In other states, the big gas corporation owns most gas stations and sets the prices higher to earn more profits, and that's with no gas attendant. No middle-man (owner), more money.

Not sure of that. Linked is a profile of Getty Realty, a REIT that owns/leases gas stations nationwide to independents. I don't think NJ is alone. And if the bigs set prices, I'm sure it covers indpendents selling their gas.

https://gettyrealty.com/portfolio
 
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Not sure of that. Linked is a profile of Getty Realty, a REIT that owns/leases gas stations nationwide to independents. I don't think NJ is alone. And if the bigs set prices, I'm sure it covers indpendents selling their gas.

https://gettyrealty.com/portfolio
There are a ton of independent gas station owners. The more there is competition, the better it is for customers. When big corporations have little competition or territorial agreements, the customers pay more due to fewer options. We have already experienced territory agreements that screw us. Look at cable companies in NJ.
 

newell138

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I hate cash, and especially hate coins. So I love the convenience of credit cards.

Ironically, when I filled up a couple hours ago, when I stopped at my usual station, the attendant was nowhere to be seen for a couple minutes (I was the only person there). So I left and went to another station. If there was self-serve, it wouldn't have been a problem.

You could just get out and do it yourself. I do that all the time at Wawa when its busy in the summer. most attendants actually appreciate it.
 

newell138

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The other problem I see is that I noticed down south, lots of people go into the store while they are filling up their cars and no one seems to be bothered about it. No sense of urgency down south. THAT WILL NOT FLY IN NJ.
 

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Leave the law is is today in place. You won't save any money. The price we pay today for them to pump will be the same as if you did (no matter what they say) and you will just end up paying too much to have someone else pump for you so you are stuck pumping your gas anyway for the same price. This new legislation is just a money boom to some gas stations who now can hire a few less employees. Most gas stations only have one person pumping so their cost will not go down. Instead that guy will just watch you pump while he laughs at not having to work as hard as before in the cold and rain. That employee will not stop you today from pumping your own gas so anyone who wants to just go ahead. THIS IS A TERRIBLE IDEA.
 

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This will turn out just like when they banned smoking in bars. Everyone predicted chaos and the end of the world, but a year after that law went into effect, no one really ever thinks about it at all anymore. On the rare occasion they do think about it, it's to say, "Wow, this is so much better now."

I moved out of Jersey a dozen years ago, though I still work there. Given the choice, which is basically always, I fuel up in Pa. If it cost a few cents more per gallon (because of various Pa. taxes), I consider it a convenience tax. There is nothing like rolling up, getting out of the car, and getting right to it. Imagine the ridiculous amount of time you waste sitting there in your car like a dope waiting for some schmuck to come over and pump your gas, especially when he's the only one working and there are five other cars there.

And no, never once in 12 years have I ever had to pump my own gas in the rain. My car has a handy gauge that tells me how much fuel I have, which allows me to plan around having to do that. And I'm a terrible planner, but I still manage. I imagine most others would be able to as well. It's so much better having the ability to get in and out of there that quickly that it's actually a quality of life issue. It makes that much of a difference.
 

mdk02

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This will turn out just like when they banned smoking in bars. Everyone predicted chaos and the end of the world, but a year after that law went into effect, no one really ever thinks about it at all anymore. On the rare occasion they do think about it, it's to say, "Wow, this is so much better now."

I moved out of Jersey a dozen years ago, though I still work there. Given the choice, which is basically always, I fuel up in Pa. If it cost a few cents more per gallon (because of various Pa. taxes), I consider it a convenience tax. There is nothing like rolling up, getting out of the car, and getting right to it. Imagine the ridiculous amount of time you waste sitting there in your car like a dope waiting for some schmuck to come over and pump your gas, especially when he's the only one working and there are five other cars there.

And no, never once in 12 years have I ever had to pump my own gas in the rain. My car has a handy gauge that tells me how much fuel I have, which allows me to plan around having to do that. And I'm a terrible planner, but I still manage. I imagine most others would be able to as well. It's so much better having the ability to get in and out of there that quickly that it's actually a quality of life issue. It makes that much of a difference.

You must have been patronizing the wrong stations. Average time for the attendant to arrive at the 2 places I fill up most often is less than 30 seconds. I can think of 1 or 2 times over the years where it stretched to a few minutes and it was when the attendant was relieving himself.