OT: NY Mets 2025 Season Thread

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We are now at the 54 game benchmark, one-third of the season. David Stearns has called this the first checkpoint. He has said he avoids the temptation to draw any conclusions about his team, until he gets to this point.

So... You're David Stearns. You have reached the first checkpoint. What conclusions have you drawn?
I draw the conclusion that we need to make a move at CF. As much as I love Taylor’s fielding, he has to be a 4th OF.
Also very concerned about Alvarez.
But man, the pitching is going to carry us a long way and that is with $30 mil of pitchers tgat haven’t pitched an inning.
 
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We are now at the 54 game benchmark, one-third of the season. David Stearns has called this the first checkpoint. He has said he avoids the temptation to draw any conclusions about his team, until he gets to this point.

So... You're David Stearns. You have reached the first checkpoint. What conclusions have you drawn?
Pitching is good but will fall off a little. Hitting with RISP is really bad and will also get better. Team as a whole is above average and great at times. A fun summer will be had.
 
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I think it’s time to put the hitting coaches on the hot seat. This has been going on for too long now.
I don't think switching hitting coaches midseason would solve the issues. Hitting with runners in scoring position requires a lot of work and is often based upon each batters individual skill set and approach to hitting. You can definitely juggle the lineup a bit to improve it, but the major work would take place in the offseason.
 
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Where can the team be improved?

Centerfield? Has Taylor found something, he has hit better of late.

Second base? Is McNeil ok there, Baty? What do we have in Acuna? His bat has gone real quiet now, his base running and defense is a plus.

Third base? Is Baty the answer? Can Vientos overcome his defensive deficiencies? Will he hit enough? Is he a DH only type of player?

Catcher? Is Alvarez ever going to hit enough?

When do our injured starting pitchers come back? Bullpen can always use another arm.

I’m sure there are other questions people can come up with, these are just off the top of my head.
Many good questions. I can answer one of them. Paul Blackburn is scheduled to make one more rehab start, and then will likely be activated for next week's series in LA. Mets will be in the midst of 10 games in a row, and will need a sixth starter during that stretch. What happens after that is uncertain.
 

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Many good questions. I can answer one of them. Paul Blackburn is scheduled to make one more rehab start, and then will likely be activated for next week's series in LA. Mets will be in the midst of 10 games in a row, and will need a sixth starter during that stretch. What happens after that is uncertain.
Unless there is an injury Stearns made it seem like Blackburn is long man out of the pen only.
 

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I don't think switching hitting coaches midseason would solve the issues. Hitting with runners in scoring position requires a lot of work and is often based upon each batters individual skill set and approach to hitting. You can definitely juggle the lineup a bit to improve it, but the major work would take place in the offseason.
Didn’t say switching them yet, just hot seating them. I would like to hear their strategies for situational hitting etc. but they need to know they have to improve things.
 

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Many good questions. I can answer one of them. Paul Blackburn is scheduled to make one more rehab start, and then will likely be activated for next week's series in LA. Mets will be in the midst of 10 games in a row, and will need a sixth starter during that stretch. What happens after that is uncertain.
Another thing Stearns has to weigh is what he has in the minors. Is Mauricio ready? Jett Williams, Benge etc. And are any of the pitchers ready to contribute?

Are the minor leaguers looked at as major league pieces for the Mets or to be used in trades?

A lot of things to consider.
 
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I draw the conclusion that we need to make a move at CF. As much as I love Taylor’s fielding, he has to be a 4th OF.
Also very concerned about Alvarez.
But man, the pitching is going to carry us a long way and that is with $30 mil of pitchers tgat haven’t pitched an inning.
Might Jose Siri be the CF? He is reportedly ahead of schedule and is slated to return in early-mid June. (I don't know if that means ready for a rehab assignment, or ready for the majors.)
 

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Another thing Stearns has to weigh is what he has in the minors. Is Mauricio ready? Jett Williams, Benge etc. And are any of the pitchers ready to contribute?

Are the minor leaguers looked at as major league pieces for the Mets or to be used in trades?

A lot of things to consider.
Yes indeed. Stearns' job is over the next two months is threefold.

1) Assessment of what he's got on the roster (active and IL).

2) Assessment of what he's got in the minors. Who's ready to contribute? Who's potential trade currency? Is there anyone on whom we can "sell high"?

3) Assessment of the marketplace. Any low-cost rentals out there who can help us? Anybody looking to dump salary? Or do we want to invest in controllable players with a higher price tag in terms of salary and/or prospects?

One thing is certain. June and July are the two months that David Stearns lives for. Especially when you are the buyer rather than the seller.
 
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Didn’t say switching them yet, just hot seating them. I would like to hear their strategies for situational hitting etc. but they need to know they have to improve things.
Hitting coaches can have strategies, but ultimately it comes down to what the player is capable of doing. Take for instance hitting a grounder to the right side to advance a runner to third. Is Pete Alonso (I'm just using him as an example) capable of doing that? Has he ever learned how? Has he ever been incented to learn how? Would learning how, earn him even one additional dollar in his next contract?

It's complicated.
 

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I think a real decision will be when Winker returns because you will have a real log jam between DH, 3B, 2B. And thats without the possibility of Mauricio. The more I see Acuna the more I think he slots best as a PR, defensive substitution and occasional starter.
 

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Hitting coaches can have strategies, but ultimately it comes down to what the player is capable of doing. Take for instance hitting a grounder to the right side to advance a runner to third. Is Pete Alonso (I'm just using him as an example) capable of doing that? Has he ever learned how? Has he ever been incented to learn how? Would learning how, earn him even one additional dollar in his next contract?

It's complicated.
Agree, but players need to have it drilled into them that sometimes a single is all you need, you don’t have to swing for a home run all the time. And if there is a hole open on the infield to the opposite field and the pitcher pitches you outside, go with the pitch, too many times I have seen players try to pull that pitch and rollover an easy grounder. Sometimes taking what they are giving you works the best.

Vientos’s hot streak last year started when Beltran told him to use the middle of the field. He was at his best going up the middle or opposite field.
 

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Hitting coaches can have strategies, but ultimately it comes down to what the player is capable of doing. Take for instance hitting a grounder to the right side to advance a runner to third. Is Pete Alonso (I'm just using him as an example) capable of doing that? Has he ever learned how? Has he ever been incented to learn how? Would learning how, earn him even one additional dollar in his next contract?

It's complicated.
To your last point. These guys have been playing baseball since they were kids. They should well know the higher probability of scoring when there is a runner on 3rd with less than 2 outs. Even for our team. And it should be all about what's best for the team in those situations and all the incentive needed. Not what's best for their stat line or contracts. There's a reason why if someone hits a grounder to the right side in those spots you will get high fives upon returning to the dugout where if you hit one to third or ss you don't.
 

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Agree, but players need to have it drilled into them that sometimes a single is all you need, you don’t have to swing for a home run all the time. And if there is a hole open on the infield to the opposite field and the pitcher pitches you outside, go with the pitch, too many times I have seen players try to pull that pitch and rollover an easy grounder. Sometimes taking what they are giving you works the best.

Vientos’s hot streak last year started when Beltran told him to use the middle of the field. He was at his best going up the middle or opposite field.
You sound like a crazy person asking for a new hitting coach this year. Like you've never watched baseball even when you try to explain it.
 

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To your last point. These guys have been playing baseball since they were kids. They should well know the higher probability of scoring when there is a runner on 3rd with less than 2 outs. Even for our team. And it should be all about what's best for the team in those situations and all the incentive needed. Not what's best for their stat line or contracts. There's a reason why if someone hits a grounder to the right side in those spots you will get high fives upon returning to the dugout where if you hit one to third or ss you don't.
Yes, there is a higher probability of scoring ONE RUN when there is a runner on third with less than two out. Playing for one run is no longer in vogue. Modern analytics dictate that you win with the big inning.

You wanna advance the runner? Give the hitter the bunt sign. Otherwise, allow the hitter to do what he does best and what he is trained to do. Drive the ball somewhere. Advancing a runner to third is nice. Advancing him to home plate is nicer.

Yeah I know, today's hitters can't bunt either. I don't have an answer to that one.
 

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Yes, there is a higher probability of scoring ONE RUN when there is a runner on third with less than two out. Playing for one run is no longer in vogue. Modern analytics dictate that you win with the big inning.

You wanna advance the runner? Give the hitter the bunt sign. Otherwise, allow the hitter to do what he does best and what he is trained to do. Drive the ball somewhere. Advancing a runner to third is nice. Advancing him to home plate is nicer.

Yeah I know, today's hitters can't bunt either. I don't have an answer to that one.
Just to clarify I'm not necessarily speaking about early in the game. I'm speaking late inning tight games where it might be a one-run game either way or perhaps tied like in the Friday game against the Dodgers where we could have won at least 4 times by manufacturing a single run.
 

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You sound like a crazy person asking for a new hitting coach this year. Like you've never watched baseball even when you try to explain it.
lol, totally unnecessary comment, you can disagree, that’s fine. No issues with disagreements.

Good conversation with @Doctor Worm

Thanks
 
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lol, totally unnecessary comment, you can disagree, that’s fine. No issues with disagreements.

Good conversation with @Doctor Worm

Thanks
Sure.

I know from the past you're much better than posts like that. When you post with more critical thinking and explain your reasoning even if I disagree then I won't respond in kind.
 

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Sure.

I know from the past you're much better than posts like that. When you post with more critical thinking and explain your reasoning even if I disagree then I won't respond in kind.
As I know you’re much better than the post you made. Disagreement squashed, moving on.
 
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I draw the conclusion that we need to make a move at CF. As much as I love Taylor’s fielding, he has to be a 4th OF.
Also very concerned about Alvarez.
But man, the pitching is going to carry us a long way and that is with $30 mil of pitchers tgat haven’t pitched an inning.
Taylor has earned playing time. He brings a level of energy that other players don't. If anything, Brandon Nimmo has developed into a good 4th outfielder.
 

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Taylor has earned playing time. He brings a level of energy that other players don't. If anything, Brandon Nimmo has developed into a good 4th outfielder.
There was a really good article in the Daily News recently about Lindor helping Taylor with his hitting in his hotel room on the road. I will look for it and post it if it isn't behind a paywall. Lindor is just a baseball junkie who wants to help any teammate if they seek his advice. Edit: Link to Article: Lindor-Taylor Hitting
 
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MadRU

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There was a really good article in the Daily News recently about Lindor helping Taylor with his hitting in his hotel room on the road. I will look for it and post it if it isn't behind a paywall. Lindor is just a baseball junkie who wants to help any teammate if they seek his advice.
They mentioned this on last nights broadcast.
 

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Lindor 0-2 and a base running mistake for the 3 outs in the bottom of the first

7 straight hits
Terrible base running by Nimmo
2 2 run HR
HBP
 

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Lindor 0-2 and a base running mistake for the 3 outs in the bottom of the first

7 straight hits
Terrible base running by Nimmo
2 2 run HR
HBP
Lindor tiedc a major league record that I'm sure he'd rather not have by making both the first and last out in a single inning.
 

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May 27 Mets Farm Report (Top 30 Prospects per MLB Pipeline)

AVG/OPS or E.R.A (W-L) (S)


  1. Brandon Sproat RHP (AAA Syracuse) - PPD
  2. Jett Williams SS/OF (AA Binghamton) - 1/3, R, BB, K, 2 SB(11), .285/.858
  3. Carson Benge OF (High A Brooklyn) - 0/3, BB, K, .315/.975
  4. Ryan Clifford 1B/OF (AA Binghamton) - 0/4, RBI, 2 K, .221/.727
  5. Nolan McLean RHP (AAA Syracuse) - PPD
  6. Jonah Tong RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
  7. Jesus Baez SS/3B (High A Brooklyn) - 0/3, R, BB, .282/.801
  8. Elian Pena SS (Rookie DSL Mets) - N/A
  9. Ronny Mauricio INF (AAA Syracuse) - PPD
  10. Drew Gilbert OF (AAA Syracuse) - PPD
  11. Jeremy Rodriguez SS (Low A St. Lucie) - 1/4, R, BB, .233/.607
  12. Jonathan Santucci LHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
  13. Boston Baro INF (High A Brooklyn) - 2/3, 2B(6), .222/.619
  14. Marco Vargas INF (High A Brooklyn) - 1/4, 2 RBI, 2 K, SB(9), .218/.579
  15. Blade Tidwell RHP (AAA Syracuse) - PPD
  16. Trey Snyder SS/3B (Low A St. Lucie) - 1/4, BB, .252/.740
  17. Nick Morabito OF (AA Binghamton) - 2/3, 2 RBI, K, SB(17), .268/.739
  18. Nate Dohm RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
  19. Daiverson Gutierrez C (Low A St. Lucie) - 1/5, R, RBI, .212/.642
  20. Jacob Reimer 3B (High A Brooklyn) - 1/4, R, K, SB(7), .319/.997
  21. Christopher Suero C/1B (High A Brooklyn) - 1/3, 2B(7), .232/.837
  22. Eli Serrano OF (High A Brooklyn) - Injured
  23. Jonathan Pintaro RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
  24. Edward Lantigua OF (Rookie FCL Mets) - 3/4, RBI, .342/.853
  25. Dom Hamel RHP (AAA Syracuse) - PPD
  26. Ronald Hernandez C (High A Brooklyn) - 0/2, K, .260/.740
  27. A.J. Ewing OF/2B (High A Brooklyn) - 0/3, K, SB(19), .341/.892
  28. Jack Wenninger RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
  29. Will Watson RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
  30. Colin Houck SS/3B (Low A St. Lucie) - 1/4, R, 2 K, .214/.694
Honorable Mention

Felipe De La Cruz LHP (AAA Syracuse) - PPD
Zach Thornton LHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
Dylan Ross RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
Ryan Lambert RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
Anthony Nunez RHP (AA Binghamton) - 1.0 IP, 1 H 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, 0 HR, 4.76
Joel Diaz RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
Noah Hall RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
Matt Allan RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
Raimon Gomez RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
Edgar Moreta RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
 

Doctor Worm

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Hopefully this Young isn’t a flash in the pan
I think we need to need to temper our expectations here. Jared Young is 29 (will be 30 in July) and is a career minor leaguer and overseas player. Yes, it is possible that he is a late bloomer who will develop into a solid major leaguer. It is more likely that he is an organizational depth guy who may have his moments as a fill-in, as he did yesterday.
 

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I think we need to need to temper our expectations here. Jared Young is 29 (will be 30 in July) and is a career minor league and overseas player. Yes, it is possible that he is a late bloomer who will develop into a solid major leaguer. It is more likely that he is an organizational depth guy who may have his moments as a fill-in, as he did yesterday.
Batted ball data from Cuse suggests this is for real so this is going to be an interesting one to follow.
 
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