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nutfromSEC117 said:
Yesterday’s wasted effort are games that force Senga and/or Manaea to pitch extra games instead of maybe skipping a start or two. Being up 5-6 games on a playoff spot could lead Mets to give a few starters extra rest.
Phillies went 7-0 vs Rockies. Any loss to these teams should be seen as unacceptable. 3-4 teams in the league are putting out a starting 9 with 3 guys max that should be in the majors right now.
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You are quite the purveyor of gloom and doom!!
 
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yesrutgers01

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Met's just took 2/3 against the Dodgers and again against the WhiteSox...And that is while not hitting. So, I am far from falling into this negative mode so many seem to be it...If the Phillies were not going wild, we would still be in very good shape. In the NL it is the Phillies/Cubs then Met's & Dodgers. All within 2 games.
 
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yesrutgers01

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RUforJERSEY said:
But it's almost June.
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But his slow start is on pace for a ****** 100 run, 75 RBI 25HR pace.
And we all recognize he has started slow.

I don’t think anyone believes he will hit .220 or so tge rest of the way so there is a very good chance he ends up better than 100/25/75

It is the money that make it worse. I’m not defending him but even a completely ****** year ends up productive for him.
 
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Its all about putting together wins for the final standings. The who/when/how are less important now. September is when you want your team playing well, so the Mets are in good shape right now, just win.
 
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RAHWAYBOB said:
I will state the obvious. We desperately need lefty relievers!
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Actually I don't think it's obvious at all. Is a lefty reliever a desperate need, or a nice to have?
  1. No one NEEDS a lefty reliever per se. Teams have won without them. What you need are pitchers who can get tough lefty hitters out. We have righty pitchers who can do that, at least they have done it so far.
  2. WIth the three-batter rule, the value of the LOOGY is greatly diminished, although not eliminated.
  3. But let's say you're right, let's say we desperately need lefty relievers. What's the definition of desperate? Meaning we need one right now? If so, how much are you willing to overpay? Because if you go shopping in May, you will surely overpay. Very few teams will commit to being sellers (I.e., throw in the towel) this early in the season. Supply is limited and the market is thin. It will be more robust in two months.
  4. Maybe Brooks Raley will be available after the all star break. Maybe.
 
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Doctor Worm said:
Actually I don't think it's obvious at all. Is a lefty reliever a desperate need, or a nice to have?
  1. No one NEEDS a lefty reliever per se. Teams have won without them. What you need are pitchers who can get tough lefty hitters out. We have righty pitchers who can do that, at least they have done it so far.
  2. WIth the three-batter rule, the value of the LOOGY is greatly diminished, although not eliminated.
  3. But let's say you're right, let's say we desperately need lefty relievers. What's the definition of desperate? Meaning we need one right now? If so, how much are you willing to overpay? Because if you go shopping in May, you will surely overpay. Very few teams will commit to being sellers (I.e., throw in the towel) this early in the season. Supply is limited and the market is thin. It will be more robust in two months.
  4. Maybe Brooks Raley will be available after the all star break. Maybe.
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Doctor, I disagree. We need to replace Waddell and Castillo in order to go far this season.
 
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Mauricio has been on quite the heater since going back to AAA.

A lot of great to really good pitching performances yesterday as well. Tidwell had the 2 runs given up but Dedniel Nunez let them in so attached to Blade. Tong keeps humming along but watching the walks as he is giving up too many. Something for him to tackle next in his development. Santucci has been excellent his last 3 starts in Brooklyn.

May 29 Mets Farm Report (Top 30 Prospects per MLB Pipeline)

AVG/OPS or E.R.A (W-L) (S)

  1. Brandon Sproat RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
  2. Jett Williams SS/OF (AA Binghamton) - G1 1/3, R, BB, 2 SB(13) G2 0/3, R, BB, K, SB(14), .280/.845
  3. Carson Benge OF (High A Brooklyn) - 1/4, R, K, SB(9), .305/.940
  4. Ryan Clifford 1B/OF (AA Binghamton) - G1 1/2, 2B(8), RBI, 2 BB, K G2 1/3, HR(8), R, RBI, BB, K, .227/.766
  5. Nolan McLean RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
  6. Jonah Tong RHP (AA Binghamton) - G1 6.0 IP, 3 H, 1 , 1 ER, 4 BB, 7 K, 1 HR, 2.25, W(3-3)
  7. Jesus Baez SS/3B (High A Brooklyn) - 1/3, BB, 2 K, .281/.803
  8. Elian Pena SS (Rookie DSL Mets) - N/A
  9. Ronny Mauricio INF (AAA Syracuse) - 2/4, HR(3), 2 R, RBI, BB, K, .560/1.546
  10. Drew Gilbert OF (AAA Syracuse) - 0/4, R, BB, 2 K, .202/.624
  11. Jeremy Rodriguez SS (Low A St. Lucie) - 2/4, 3B(1), R, 2 RBI, .242/.634
  12. Jonathan Santucci LHP (High A Brooklyn) - 5.1 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 6 K, 0 HR, 4.95, W(3-4)
  13. Boston Baro INF (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
  14. Marco Vargas INF (High A Brooklyn) - 2/3, 2 RBI, BB, SB(11), .238/.621
  15. Blade Tidwell RHP (AAA Syracuse) - 5.2 IP, 0 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 4 BB, 11 K, 0 HR, 3.97, W(3-2)
  16. Trey Snyder SS/3B (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
  17. Nick Morabito OF (AA Binghamton) - G1 2/4, 2 2B(12), R, RBI, SB(18) G2 0/3, BB, 2 K, .269/.749
  18. Nate Dohm RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
  19. Daiverson Gutierrez C (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
  20. Jacob Reimer 3B (High A Brooklyn) - 2/4, 3 R, SB(8), .323/.993
  21. Christopher Suero C/1B (High A Brooklyn) - 0/2, 2 RBI, BB, 2 K, .237/.830
  22. Eli Serrano OF (High A Brooklyn) - Injured
  23. Jonathan Pintaro RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
  24. Edward Lantigua OF (Rookie FCL Mets) - 1/3, R, BB, 2 K, SB(4), .341/.853
  25. Dom Hamel RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
  26. Ronald Hernandez C (High A Brooklyn) - 1/4, K, .260/.733
  27. A.J. Ewing OF/2B (High A Brooklyn) - 2/5, 3B(3), R, RBI, 2 K, .343/.906
  28. Jack Wenninger RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
  29. Will Watson RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
  30. Colin Houck SS/3B (Low A St. Lucie) - 1/2, 3B(4), RBI, BB, K, .225/.757
Honorable Mention

Felipe De La Cruz LHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
Zach Thornton LHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
Dylan Ross RHP (AA Binghamton) - G1 1.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, 0 HR, 0.00
Ryan Lambert RHP (AA Binghamton) - 1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 2 K, 0 HR, 2.45
Anthony Nunez RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
Douglas Orellana RHP (AA Binghamton) - 1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, 0 HR, 1.40, S(4)
Joel Diaz RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
Noah Hall RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
Matt Allan RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
Raimon Gomez RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
Saul Garcia RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
Edgar Moreta RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
 
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Doctor Worm said:
Actually I don't think it's obvious at all. Is a lefty reliever a desperate need, or a nice to have?
  1. No one NEEDS a lefty reliever per se. Teams have won without them. What you need are pitchers who can get tough lefty hitters out. We have righty pitchers who can do that, at least they have done it so far.
  2. WIth the three-batter rule, the value of the LOOGY is greatly diminished, although not eliminated.
  3. But let's say you're right, let's say we desperately need lefty relievers. What's the definition of desperate? Meaning we need one right now? If so, how much are you willing to overpay? Because if you go shopping in May, you will surely overpay. Very few teams will commit to being sellers (I.e., throw in the towel) this early in the season. Supply is limited and the market is thin. It will be more robust in two months.
  4. Maybe Brooks Raley will be available after the all star break. Maybe.
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Agree 100% with your 2nd point.
 
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yesrutgers01

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Well, last night was a pretty good baseball night for Met fans! Lindor doing what he does, Soto with a couple of hits, Peterson with another very strong outing and Diaz now looking like the top closer in BB.
Phillies lose, Atlanta loses and the "other" team loses. Just wish they didn't let The betting man hit 2 HR's!
 
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Doctor Worm said:
You mean former all star Alexis Diaz? Reds just sent him down to AAA. Just shows how volatile relief pitching is, and how valuable the consistent ones are.
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Reds sent him down a while ago. They did however just trade him to the Dodgers for not much.
 
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nutfromSEC117 said:
PCA scare you away from this ??
Not sure but Skenes game 1
Senga 2
Manaea 3

Is pretty damn good !!


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At this point, even
Skenes
Senga
Peterson,
Holmes

Would be daunting…speaking of which, do we know when Manaea is going to be back. If he comes in how he pitched last year, wow.
 
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yesrutgers01 said:
At this point, even
Skenes
Senga
Peterson,
Holmes

Would be daunting…speaking of which, do we know when Manaea is going to be back. If he comes in how he pitched last year, wow.
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Pirates are not trading Skenes at least not this year.

Manaea threw a live BP yesterday. He's going to begin his minor league rehab in early June.

Montas has already begun his minor league rehab so a few weeks ahead of Manaea.

Blackburn will enter the rotation for now as the 6th starter and then shuffle off to the pen at some point probably when Montas gets back. If everyone still healthy when Manaea also gets back then Mendoza and Stearns will have some maneuvering to do.
 
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Some more great pitching from starters yesterday with Thornton, Dohm, and Moreta.

Bing and Brooklyn were short because of rain. DSL starts today so we'll start getting some numbers from big big bonus baby Pena.

May 30 Mets Farm Report (Top 30 Prospects per MLB Pipeline)

AVG/OPS or E.R.A (W-L) (S)

  1. Brandon Sproat RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
  2. Jett Williams SS/OF (AA Binghamton) - 1/3, R, BB, SB(15), .281/.845
  3. Carson Benge OF (High A Brooklyn) - 1/3, SB(10), .305/.935
  4. Ryan Clifford 1B/OF (AA Binghamton) - 1/3, K, .229/.764
  5. Nolan McLean RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
  6. Jonah Tong RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
  7. Jesus Baez SS/3B (High A Brooklyn) - 1/3, 2B(5), R, RBI, .282/.808
  8. Elian Pena SS (Rookie DSL Mets) - N/A
  9. Ronny Mauricio INF (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
  10. Drew Gilbert OF (AAA Syracuse) - 2/4, 2 2B(6), R, RBI, K, .211/.655
  11. Jeremy Rodriguez SS (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
  12. Jonathan Santucci LHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
  13. Boston Baro INF (High A Brooklyn) - 0/2, BB, SB(8), .214/.601
  14. Marco Vargas INF (High A Brooklyn) - 0/3, .230/.601
  15. Blade Tidwell RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
  16. Trey Snyder SS/3B (Low A St. Lucie) - 0/6, 2 K, .235/.695
  17. Nick Morabito OF (AA Binghamton) - 1/3, K, .270/.747
  18. Nate Dohm RHP (High A Brooklyn) - 3.2 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 4 K, 0 HR, 3.86
  19. Daiverson Gutierrez C (Low A St. Lucie) - 3/5, 2B(2), 4 R, .222/.661
  20. Jacob Reimer 3B (High A Brooklyn) - 2/2, HR(8), 2 R, RBI, BB, .331/1.025
  21. Christopher Suero C/1B (High A Brooklyn) - 0/1, BB, K, .235/.829
  22. Eli Serrano OF (High A Brooklyn) - Injured
  23. Jonathan Pintaro RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
  24. Edward Lantigua OF (Rookie FCL Mets) - 0/4, R, 2 K, .311/.782
  25. Dom Hamel RHP (AAA Syracuse) - 3.0 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 1 HR, 4.55, L(2-4)
  26. Ronald Hernandez C (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
  27. A.J. Ewing OF/2B (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
  28. Jack Wenninger RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
  29. Will Watson RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
  30. Colin Houck SS/3B (Low A St. Lucie) - 2/6, 2B(9), RBI, K, .229/.759
Honorable Mention

Felipe De La Cruz LHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
Zach Thornton LHP (AA Binghamton) - 6.0 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 8 K, 0 HR, 2.30, W(2-0)
Dylan Ross RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
Ryan Lambert RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
Anthony Nunez RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
Douglas Orellana RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
Joel Diaz RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
Noah Hall RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
Matt Allan RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
Raimon Gomez RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
Saul Garcia RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
Edgar Moreta RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - 5.0 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 3 BB, 6 K, 0 HR, 3.52, W(3-2)
 
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Zak57 said:
Pirates are not trading Skenes at least not this year.

Manaea threw a live BP yesterday. He's going to begin his minor league rehab in early June.

Montas has already begun his minor league rehab so a few weeks ahead of Manaea.

Blackburn will enter the rotation for now as the 6th starter and then shuffle off to the pen at some point probably when Montas gets back. If everyone still healthy when Manaea also gets back then Mendoza and Stearns will have some maneuvering to do.
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I wouldn’t expect the Pirates to trade him with still having this much control over him. They may consider it after 2026
 
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yesrutgers01

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Zak57 said:
Pirates are not trading Skenes at least not this year.

Manaea threw a live BP yesterday. He's going to begin his minor league rehab in early June.

Montas has already begun his minor league rehab so a few weeks ahead of Manaea.

Blackburn will enter the rotation for now as the 6th starter and then shuffle off to the pen at some point probably when Montas gets back. If everyone still healthy when Manaea also gets back then Mendoza and Stearns will have some maneuvering to do.
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While I was kind of OK with signing Montas when we felt our starters were very questionable, I’m not sure his best is at the level of any of our current starters 1/3 of the way through the season. I think I start Montas in the pen. Manaea, different story. Megill and Canning should pitch their next couple of starts like they are trying to make the team.
 
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Kbee3 said:
White Sox (18-39) followed by the Rockies (9-48}...both at home.
I smell a winning streak.
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So the elite teams shouldn't feast on the weak teams? Crying since you're playing the big bad Dodgers? lol Ask the league if they can eliminate the 5th inning in the 3 game set. 😎PS. We took 2 of 3.
 
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