OT: NY Mets 2025 Season Thread
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I don't recall the offense being poor for anything like 1/3 of the season. But it has had stretches exceeding 10/15 games when it was cold or ice cold. Last year was worse. Maybe that's ordinary, though it doesn't feel ordinary. I'd love to see a statistical analysis of that.
I've always been suspect of the critique that a team cannot hit with runners in scoring position. It is subset of overall data and subject to variations that make it a risky data set from which to draw conclusions. A form of data mining. For instance, according to baseball reference, the Mets this year are 3d in MLB for OPS with runners in scoring position. So are they a great hitting team with runners in scoring position?
He produced the game of his life today. I understand the decision to pull him after 5 innings. His confidence had to have been sky high and you don't want to screw it up. I really wish Halsley didn't suck. That would be an enormous difference maker if we could count on him to be lights out in the 8th inning.
From now on, you are the designated fan to say- "We basically need. . . .. " before each game.
You are a good luck charm!!!!
Soto seems decent. He has a number of outfield assists. Mullen is dreadful (offensively too).
As a lifelong fan of Rutgers and the Mets, I can assure you I am not lucky.
I am late to the party with this, but Mets made some pitching moves today:
UP:
* Wander Suero. He has a chance to be Met pitcher #47.
* Huascar Brazoban - Did you realize he was gone?
* Chris Devenski - Would not be shocked to see him in key situations.
DOWN:
* Reed Garrett - to IL.
* Dom Hamel - not surprised he's gone, very surprised he was DFA'D.
* Sean Manaea - three day paternity leave, he'll be back to pitch on Sunday.
UP:
* Wander Suero. He has a chance to be Met pitcher #47.
* Huascar Brazoban - Did you realize he was gone?
* Chris Devenski - Would not be shocked to see him in key situations.
DOWN:
* Reed Garrett - to IL.
* Dom Hamel - not surprised he's gone, very surprised he was DFA'D.
* Sean Manaea - three day paternity leave, he'll be back to pitch on Sunday.
A big f yeah from Europe!! Let's keep this going.
Not sure he has been a liability. That is not to say he is anything special but he pretty much makes just about every play you would expect him to.
Soto has a Defensive Runs Saved rating of minus 7. As to whether he makes every play you expect him to, for me that is probably true, but only because my expectations of him are low.
I am so old school that I have no idea what half of these stats even mean. I watch a player and tell you what I see.
I just haven’t seen Soto as a liability in the field. I never see a ball hit his way and hold my breath.
So crazy to think that if/when we make the playoffs- McLean, Sproat, Tong may be our go to starters. I also kind of like the Holmes/Manaea combo may not be a bad option. Tong had that one awful outing but I almost think that the mind game played by the other team by taking every pitch may have gotten to him early.
Also- would be great if Alonso stays hot going into the playoffs- and damn- his HR's are just being crushed. BTW- as much as we were talking about the potentials of either Baty or Vientos at the trade deadline and almost everyone agreed that Viento's ceiling was much higher because of power. Cripes- it seems that Baty is all of a sudden hitting Strawberry type HRs.
Also- would be great if Alonso stays hot going into the playoffs- and damn- his HR's are just being crushed. BTW- as much as we were talking about the potentials of either Baty or Vientos at the trade deadline and almost everyone agreed that Viento's ceiling was much higher because of power. Cripes- it seems that Baty is all of a sudden hitting Strawberry type HRs.
Not only may we be entering the playoffs with three rookies at the top of the rotation... we may be entering the playoffs with three rookies at the top of the rotation WHO WILL STILL BE ROOKIES IN 2026!
That is insane.
Rough outing for Senga tonight in Syracuse tonight. After three scoreless innings, the Iron Pigs got to him for four runs in the fourth.
I assume the Mets will bring him back up next week. But how (if?) he will used is uncertain.
I assume the Mets will bring him back up next week. But how (if?) he will used is uncertain.
In happier news, Binghamton won to advance to the Eastern League finals. What matters is how they did it. Jack Wenninger (remember that name!) threw 6 innings, 0 runs, 1 hit, 1 BB, 9 K.
Ryan Lambert (remember that name too!) got the save.
Ryan Lambert (remember that name too!) got the save.
The definition of rookie, for a pitcher, is not to exceed 45 roster days, OR 50 innings pitched. They will all fall short of 45 roster days. McLean may or may not exceed 50 innings. He currently is at 37.2 innings. He will get two more starts. To retain rookie status, he would have to stay under 12.2 innings.
I think the answer is no, but would playoff innings count towards the 50 innings?
Thats pretty impressive considering the players they lost to promotions pretty late in the season.
Need to get a sweep over the Nats this weekend and then bank on none of SF(Dodgers), Ariz(Phillies) or Cinncy(Cubs) being able to do the same against their far stiffer competition. Get it done.
Mets:
3 at home against Washington (Mets 6-4 vs Nationals this season)
3 away at Chicago Cubs (Mets 2-1 vs Cubs this season)
3 away at Miami (Mets 5-5 vs. Marlins this season)
Diamondbacks (2 games back) have 3 vs Phils; 3 vs Dodgers; 3 at Padres
Giants (3 games back) have 3 at Los Angeles; 3 at home vs St Louis; and 3 at home vs. Colorado
Reds (2 games back) have 3 vs Cubs, 3 vs Pirates, 3 at Milwaukee
Tie breakers-head to head W-L record:
Diamondbacks: 3-3
Giants: 4-2
Reds: 2-4
Second Tiebreaker if tied (Diamondbacks)-Intradivision Records:
Mets: 23-23
Diamondbacks:25-20
If a tie for 3rd Wild Card, Best Case Scenario is for Giants to lose series to Dodgers--1 domino has fallen.
Next best case is for Mets and Diamondbacks to be tied, but Mets wind up with a better intradvision record
Worst Case Scenario if a tie is to be tied with Reds, and dammit they beat Cubs today
3 at home against Washington (Mets 6-4 vs Nationals this season)
3 away at Chicago Cubs (Mets 2-1 vs Cubs this season)
3 away at Miami (Mets 5-5 vs. Marlins this season)
Diamondbacks (2 games back) have 3 vs Phils; 3 vs Dodgers; 3 at Padres
Giants (3 games back) have 3 at Los Angeles; 3 at home vs St Louis; and 3 at home vs. Colorado
Reds (2 games back) have 3 vs Cubs, 3 vs Pirates, 3 at Milwaukee
Tie breakers-head to head W-L record:
Diamondbacks: 3-3
Giants: 4-2
Reds: 2-4
Second Tiebreaker if tied (Diamondbacks)-Intradivision Records:
Mets: 23-23
Diamondbacks:25-20
If a tie for 3rd Wild Card, Best Case Scenario is for Giants to lose series to Dodgers--1 domino has fallen.
Next best case is for Mets and Diamondbacks to be tied, but Mets wind up with a better intradvision record
Worst Case Scenario if a tie is to be tied with Reds, and dammit they beat Cubs today
i don't have a lot of faith in the phillies helping the Mets and beating up on the diamondbacks. I just hope the phillies take at least 1 of the games.
Mets need to win 6 for me to exhale.
Aren’t the Phils fighting for best record with the Brewers?
Mets need to go 6-3 the rest of the way and not worry about the other 3 teams. If they do that and it ends up not being good enough, then you tip your cap. But if they go 5-4 or worse, you can't feel bad about not making it because you didn't earn it. Sweeping Washington and splitting the last 6 is not a big ask if you're truly a playoff caliber team.
Sweeping any series is a big task. But 6-3 obviously locks it up. Need to see Sproat follow up Tong with the biggest game of his life.
For me, if Sproat can do it tonight. Having him, Tong, McLean, makes me feel so much better
Mets playoff scenarios: Where they stand in NL Wild Card tiebreakers for final spot
Tremendous thread all season regardless of whether or not the Mets are playing bad or not. Always insightful, a truly engaging fanbase. Smart enough to find a way onto the new On3 site.
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