I believe he got it firsthand ... from licking toilets and horses.
He’s a dirtbag that our RW mods have let stick around for far too long.
You’re also describing his last employment.
I believe he got it firsthand ... from licking toilets and horses.
They also knew something that most anti-vaxxers don't: that sometimes even when someone survived an infection it did permanent damage or came back to haunt them later. Sometimes people with polio developed additional neurological damage/paralysis years or decades after they had the disease. Jean Harlow got scarlet fever as a teenager and a decade later likely died from kidney failure as a result. Many infectious diseases start the process of atherosclerosis, clogging of coronary arteries.Unlike the cowardly e-rager of modern day.
What a sad group.
If you have a problem with me reach out me to me directly.He’s a dirtbag that our RW mods have let stick around for far too long.
You’re also describing his last employment.
Change your name to fs&sg2 to be accurate
First.. I think all CoVid stats are political and don't trust any of them and never did and I think this has been proven over time. I am surprised you buy into it. 2M lives saved? Puh-lease. The treatments saved lives.. but not 2M... the vacines.. doubt it.You always struck me as someone who had a decent working knowledge of science and logic and I recall awhile back that you seemed to think the vaccines were safe and effective. Maybe I'm misremembering, but if not, it's disappointing to see you having fallen victim to the antivaxx and ivermectin misinformation machines. The COVID vaccines will be remembered by the vast majority of medical researchers and doctors as one of the biggest, most important breakthrough in the history of medicine, given how safe and effective they've been (especially in protecting against severe COVID/death) and how amazingly quickly they were developed and tested (and yes, the Trump Administration deserves kudos for Warp Speed), saving 2MM+ lives in the US and tens of millions worldwide. One can debate the effectiveness of mandates, but not the effectiveness of the vaccines. If we didn't have these vaccines in place, especially when the incredibly infectious omicron variants hit, our country and much of the world would've been broken, as the impact would've been far worse than what we saw with the original strain.
https://www.statnews.com/2022/02/14/why-covid-19-vaccines-are-a-freaking-miracle/
And the ivermectin case, in particular, kind of destroys your "big Pharma bad" logic here. Specifically, it absolutely has no efficacy for COVID, as I and a couple of MDs in the linked thread have shown (and much of this was well known 2 years ago). Secondly, Merck stood to gain substantially, financially, if iermectin worked for COVID, but Merck came out with crystal clear statements summarizing how ivermectin was ineffective for COVID (and could be dangerous when the animal formulations were used by humans, as has occurred). Also, it's not like Merck had COVID vaccines that it didn't want ivermectin competing with. As I've said many times, having worked on ivermectin in the late 80s/early 90s, I would have been thrilled if it worked for COVID. It doesn't. Also, anyone who says that there was a bias against repurposing existing medications (like HCQ and ivermectin) hasn't been paying attention, since dexamethasone an old steroid was approved for use in patients suffering from COVID-induced inflammation, as it worked very well for that. And is pretty cheap.
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/threads/bronny-james-cardiac-arrest.263289/post-6404803
Healthy people have succumbed in Italy and China, take no chances
First.. I think all CoVid stats are political and don't trust any of them and never did and I think this has been proven over time. I am surprised you buy into it. 2M lives saved? Puh-lease. The treatments saved lives.. but not 2M... the vacines.. doubt it.
There may have been some value in giving the population a placebo vacine that made it look like there was something they could do about the giant CRISIS knocking at their doors. But so many picked up bad habits being locked away... away from schools.. etc.
BTW..
Did you not realize that the FDA recently softened its stance in ivermectin? They are trying to walk a fine line between not actually approving it and advising how to be safe about using it, if prescribed.
Now.. some out there on the social sites are claiming they completely backtracked and now approved it.. that's not quite right.
FDA site on this...
Jimmy Dore show does a decent job discussing these issue but they are prone to trying to find humor and mocking... they seem to basically be left-leaning libertarians... but in terms of distaste for the authoritarianism going on now they might seem to be right-wing. They are not... definitely not. Antiestablishment on both side.. yeah.. they seem to despise big government no matter who is running it.
The FDA did nothing of the kind, but I'm sure you know that - or are simply ignorant of how the FDA works. As I said previously, ivermectin has been approved for human use for years for various parasitic infections, meaning doctors are technically allowed to prescribe ivermectin in an off-label fashion for COVID or other conditions.
However, that doesn't mean the FDA doesn't have a responsibility to inform the public, as they have done, that ivemectin has shown no efficacy against SARS-CoV-2 and furthermore that use of various animal formulations of ivermectin (in higher doses than for humans in different formulations, that were never approved for humans) is likely quite dangerous, as has been observed in many cases.
All of this right wing "alternative medicine" chatter about ivermectin and what the case before the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals means for ivermectin, is filled with misinformation. If you want to read what really happened in that court, read this including the excerpt below. Unfortunately, there are a lot of morons out there, who believe that ivermectin works for COVID, just like there are plenty of idiots who believe videos showing lidocaine is good to give teething babies, when, in fact, it can lead to seizures and possibly death.
https://www.courthousenews.com/iver...-fifth-circuit-to-revive-lawsuit-against-fda/
U.S. Circuit Judge Don Willett, a Trump appointee, pressed Honold to define the limits of the FDA’s jurisdiction.
“You concede the FDA has no authority to issue medical advice, correct? That is not arguable, right? The FDA cannot issue medical advice,” he said.
“No, your honor,” Honold replied. “The government is not conceding that in this case.”
She said when people are using drugs in unsafe ways, leading to hospitalizations, it “is not only permissible, it is imperative that the FDA be able to inform the public of its scientific views about safe uses of drugs.”
For example, Honold said, the FDA recently issued advisories warning people it is not safe to eat chicken cooked in the cough syrup NyQuil — a recipe that spread on the social media app TikTok. And in 2014, Honold noted, the FDA cautioned against using lidocaine off-label as a numbing agent for teething babies because it can cause seizures and deaths for them.
“The FDA has to be able to make these kinds of public safety statements. Under plaintiffs’ theory, FDA would not be able to communicate to the public in this way,” Honold argued.
Probably because we were lied to. And believing it is dangerous flu when you see the CCP welding shut the doors of apartment buildings and beating people they found outside without permission.. it makes an impression. Believing it to be dangerous doesn't mean you have to agree with everything the government did then and afterword.Here's Proud Boy in March 2020, when he was scared shitless of this "hoax" of a virus and praying for a vaccine. Amazing what a transformation he made from concerned citizen to deranged antivaxxer.
First.. I think all CoVid stats are political and don't trust any of them and never did and I think this has been proven over time. I am surprised you buy into it. 2M lives saved? Puh-lease. The treatments saved lives.. but not 2M... the vacines.. doubt it.
There may have been some value in giving the population a placebo vacine that made it look like there was something they could do about the giant CRISIS knocking at their doors. But so many picked up bad habits being locked away... away from schools.. etc.
BTW..
Did you not realize that the FDA recently softened its stance in ivermectin? They are trying to walk a fine line between not actually approving it and advising how to be safe about using it, if prescribed.
Now.. some out there on the social sites are claiming they completely backtracked and now approved it.. that's not quite right.
FDA site on this...
Jimmy Dore show does a decent job discussing these issue but they are prone to trying to find humor and mocking... they seem to basically be left-leaning libertarians... but in terms of distaste for the authoritarianism going on now they might seem to be right-wing. They are not... definitely not. Antiestablishment on both side.. yeah.. they seem to despise big government no matter who is running it.
And we know you were big pharma before retiring. Have no idea if you do consulting to big pharma now.
You wouldn't believe how socialist I am when it comes to health care and pharma. I basically think everything should be nationalized and rolled under the control of universities. Pay would remain good for researchers etc... but nothing would be spent on advertising, profits, pharma babes, or executive stock options... sure, there might not be new profitable drugs to help erections last longer or grow hair for the bald... but every non-profitable dread disease would be researched and possibly cures found. All drug production would be moved here or to other western democracies that we could trust.
Same for health insurance and delivering health care. I think issues like that are national issues and should not be subject to the profit motive. I'd also have my eye on the defense industry... there's something wrong there too.
We weren't lied to. CV killed 0.5-1.0% of people infected around the world, prior to vaccines. That's how we had ~400K deaths in 2020 out of ~21MM cases (which were likely ~40-50MM cases, given undercounts in cases due to lack of testing and asymptomatic infections). Do you believe those numbers were made up, despite every other country having similar case fatality ratios? This is way beyond the ~0.1% CFR for influenza.Probably because we were lied to. And believing it is dangerous flu when you see the CCP welding shut the doors of apartment buildings and beating people they found outside without permission.. it makes an impression. Believing it to be dangerous doesn't mean you have to agree with everything the government did then and afterword.
For instance, you thought Trump's ban on travel from China and Italy was the xenophobic nonsense of a racist fascist. Turns out it was quite sensible.
Heck.. you probably still believe it was not a lab leak.
By the way, I no longer am doing any consulting - fully retired. And we're pretty well aligned on the rest of your points above, as I also believe in universal health care administered by the government (not universities) and have always hated direct to consumer advertising of prescription drugs (has resulted in way too many dollars spend on ads and not R&D and has hurt the reputation of the industry) - and really dislike ads for supplements/neutraceuticals, which generally don't undergo "gold standard" RCT clinical testing at all and are not manufactured under anywhere near the quality rigor of prescription drugs.And we know you were big pharma before retiring. Have no idea if you do consulting to big pharma now.
You wouldn't believe how socialist I am when it comes to health care and pharma. I basically think everything should be nationalized and rolled under the control of universities. Pay would remain good for researchers etc... but nothing would be spent on advertising, profits, pharma babes, or executive stock options... sure, there might not be new profitable drugs to help erections last longer or grow hair for the bald... but every non-profitable dread disease would be researched and possibly cures found. All drug production would be moved here or to other western democracies that we could trust.
Same for health insurance and delivering health care. I think issues like that are national issues and should not be subject to the profit motive. I'd also have my eye on the defense industry... there's something wrong there too.
The FDA changed nothing in its stance - that source is full of misinformation. Try reading an actual news source reporting on what the FDA said and didn't say. See what I had posted a few days ago, below. And the fact that you are unable to understand the science behind the vaccines and their safety and effectiveness is sad. It's beyond blindingly obvious to all MDs except for a few crackpots who are making money on alternatives that don't work. And even if you thought the data were political in the US, which is just kooky talk (especially since the numbers of deaths were very high under both Trump and Biden, plus the excess deaths match up quite well with COVID deaths) how did every other country see it the same way?
Proud Boy NJ succumbed to the ultra right conspiracy wackos. Trumpanzees recruited another fool.Here's Proud Boy in March 2020, when he was scared shitless of this "hoax" of a virus and praying for a vaccine. Amazing what a transformation he made from concerned citizen to deranged antivaxxer.
Hahahahaha oh man that’s too good. Proud Boy I thought you were the paragon of free thinking No Comply Patriots?!?! Hahahaha.Here's Proud Boy in March 2020, when he was scared shitless of this "hoax" of a virus and praying for a vaccine. Amazing what a transformation he made from concerned citizen to deranged antivaxxer.
I wasn't asking about "people."
I was asking bac directly. I'll loop you in, too - feel free to answer on your own behalf.
If you're going to complain about shadow mandates for three years, they should probably have affected you at some point.
No the assertion was made by at least one poster that there were no mandates given by Biden
So Biden didn't try to push through a mandate until the courts absolutely ***** slapped him
I mean some posters here are absolutely fake news
Are you intentionally ignoring Biden's EO on private employers or just stupid?There's a difference between the federal government, acting in its capacity as an employer, mandating vaccines for its employees and contractors and the federal government telling you, the lawn guy, that you had to get vaccinated.
The latter never happened.
1) we were lied to about how many people died FROM CoVid complications instead of "with CoVid". (now, it is possible, even likely, that the stress put on the health care system because of CoVid caused other deaths not purely related to the virus itself.. so while the biggest numbers they threw out there to justify more spending and more lockdown days were lies, so are teh smallest numbers from the other side).We weren't lied to. CV killed 0.5-1.0% of people infected around the world, prior to vaccines. That's how we had ~400K deaths in 2020 out of ~21MM cases (which were likely ~40-50MM cases, given undercounts in cases due to lack of testing and asymptomatic infections). Do you believe those numbers were made up, despite every other country having similar case fatality ratios? This is way beyond the ~0.1% CFR for influenza.
I also supported the China travel ban, although it came way too late to be effective, as ~300K Chinese came to the US in Jan-2020 before the travel ban went into effect. All it did was delay the onset of the pandemic in the US by a couple of weeks - and we squandered that lead time by not having testing in place when the infections came. We also failed to stop travel from Europe until mid-March, allowing 2MM+ Europeans into the US in the preceding 6 weeks, resulting in the the biggest outbreak in the world right in the NYC/NJ region, where 2/3 of people in this area were infected by people coming from Europe.
And lastly, like most virologists, I still believe that zoonotic transmission, the path of every other virus to humans in history, was by far the most likely route of entry of SARS-CoV-2 into humans, but as I've said many times it's impossible to rule out a lab leak (but easy to rule out a virus "created" in a lab by Chinese scientists). The recent Taibbi article is so full of holes and errors it's not funny.
There's a difference between the federal government, acting in its capacity as an employer, mandating vaccines for its employees and contractors and the federal government telling you, the lawn guy, that you had to get vaccinated.
The latter never happened.
Are you intentionally ignoring Biden's EO on private employers or just stupid?
It's almost like 1996 never happened...that whole Chinese influence over U.S. politics through illegal financing Clinton's campaign. Or those FBI files just magically appeared in the First Lady's nightstand in 1993...must have been the maid. Was she constitutionally allowed to have those files? How many billions were laundered through the Clinton Foundation again?
I know. "But Trump" and "But MAGA". Stay focused on your words above.
2) when Trump did the 1st travel ban, the MSM attacked him relentlessly.
SCOTUS agreed mandates were wrong
But since the blue team puts thugs outsude SCOTUS justices homes for weeks I anticipate you wont care.
You're on your own for the rest of it, but not only the MSM but Pelosi and the rest of the Democrats called it racism. She lauded the parades and close quarter celebrations around Chinese New Years.
This needs to be investigated:Still with Hillary lol
Trump took millions from China while in office. Not Hillary.
Trump's daughter took millions from China while in office. Not Hunter.
Trump took files, refused to return them AND showed them off, on tape, after being ejected by 81 million patriots.
How's the Trump foundation doing? Oh right it was shuttered for fraud...unlike Hillary's.
So...were Bush and Trump's DOJ just not in the loop of your whataboutism lies or are they just real bad at their jobs? LOL
Law and order, love to see it!
The clown car does that a thousand times a day.So if the FDA says ivermectin is OK that's fine but if they say the vaccine is OK that's not fine. You can't say the FDA is/isn't credible only when it suits you. Sorry. Big pharma, pushing ivermectin.
It has been. Where are we?This needs to be investigated:
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Before Giving Billions to Jared Kushner, Saudi Investment Fund Had Big Doubts (Published 2022)
Before committing $2 billion to Mr. Kushner’s fledgling firm, officials at a fund led by the Saudi crown prince questioned taking such a big risk.www.nytimes.com
Probably because Trump didn't ban travel from Europe, where the first variants that spread here came from.
Thanks for pointing out how the party you worship manages to synthesize racism, idiocy and disease like no other.
Once again, you make a post filled with misinformation and innuendo. The CDC never called HCQ a poison, since it's an approved medication for malaria; however, they have published pages showing that HCQ has no efficacy in either treatment of COVID nor prevention of COVID, as per several robust (randomized/controlled, the "gold standard" in medicine) clinical trials. I posted about these studies and some additional ones that came after CDC created the page below in late 2020. Both links are below.Top researchers and MDs in the world from MIT, Yale, Harvard were silenced and defamed for not towing the line. CDC called hydroxychloroquine "safe and well tolerated" for decades. Then the experimental genetic concoction came around and CDC remade its website to portray hydroxychloroquine as a poison.
Lancet got busted running a "study" against hydroxychloroquine that was so fake it had to be pulled with a retraction. Fact was that if there was an effective therapeutic that had to be used before the vaxx (and "Warp Speed" protocols held vaxx would only be for elderly and infirm. They jiggered things so everyone had to get jabbed including babies. That was pretty diabolical considering they didn't even get CV-19.
The really suspect thing is that science calls fore debate and revision but the hive just wants to shut people down. Lebron's kid has a heart crisis and another kid on his team had one too. Week after Bronny a 30 yr old Grammy winner Tori Kelly collapses with heart problems and an Iowa football player died just before. Every week a young person is having an issue and there should be debate
Proud Boy NJ succumbed to the ultra right conspiracy wackos. Trumpanzees recruited another fool.
Here’s another from the same thread. Too good. FOllOw dA PsYOps hahahaha.This thing is nasty
No immunity to it
Spreads like wildfire
Other unknowns
People didn't know how the Spanish Flu spread in 1918 either?
Until years later
Wilhem DuhBlasio and his idiot NYC so-called Health Commissioners were the worst...certainly contributed to the NYC (and metro) chicomvirus death toll.You're on your own for the rest of it, but not only the MSM but Pelosi and the rest of the Democrats called it racism. She lauded the parades and close quarter celebrations around Chinese New Years.
Here’s another from the same thread. Too good. FOllOw dA PsYOps hahahaha.
I mean…this is the funniest thing I’ve seen on here. ProudBoy scared of the sniffles and happy to comply with tyranny! Our most brave and proud Patriot is a beta jabtard!!!!!soon this thread will have to be changed to Does anyone not know anyone with the CV
I'm at the local bar now, I've already told the guys that I'm hunkering down starting tomorrow
Just going to work and that's it
It's too dangerous out there
Was just about to post on this and given its potential impact on SoCal/desert SW, figured I'd just start a new thread as many like new threads for impactful storms. Hope you don't mind if I start it...Back to the original point (before the knuckle-dragging climate change deniers chimed in), a rare hurricane/tropical storm will likely hit southern California:
Here he is advocating for a global mandatory lockdown. And RUDiddy77 actually says to him “you’ll be fine Proud, but check on any elderly folks you know.” You can’t make this stuff up!Hopefully every county does this on Monday
I've lived in Southern California since 1993 and only once have the remnants of a tropical storm made it this far north, in July 2015. (I remember it well because I was throwing a pool party that day.) Eight years later it's happening again. I wonder if it will become semi-regular.Back to the original point (before the knuckle-dragging climate change deniers chimed in), a rare hurricane/tropical storm will likely hit southern California:
Actually they're most scared--terrified even--of a big, bad, scary vaccine!! Boo! Maybe they're really just afraid of needles and think they might pass out from fear in front of a nurse.I mean…this is the funniest thing I’ve seen on here. ProudBoy scared of the sniffles and happy to comply with tyranny! Our most brave and proud Patriot is a beta jabtard!!!!!