OT: Ruth vs Ohtani
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Did Babe Ruth out homered every American League team in 1920?
Ruth finished the year with 54 home runs, an 86 percent increase from his record-setting 1919 total of 29. Ruth out-homered every other team in the American League, the first time that had ever happened (and one of two times, along with 1927, that Ruth would accomplish the feat. No one else has ever done it.)
Ohtani isn't a patch on Ruth's fanny.
So I looked at 1920 Ruth out-homered every other team in the American League, the first time that had ever happened ...54 home runs.
So we need to look which team hit the most home runs in 2022?
It was the Yankees at - 254.
I like Ohtani but clearly he is no Babe Ruth...Ohtani hit 34 home runs in 2022.
Sorry bud - nice try.
So we need to look which team hit the most home runs in 2022?
It was the Yankees at - 254.
I like Ohtani but clearly he is no Babe Ruth...Ohtani hit 34 home runs in 2022.
Sorry bud - nice try.
Ruth was playing against plumbers and roofers. The level of play is vastly better today than it was 100 years ago. We all love Ruth. His feats were incredible. He might even be an all-star today. Or more likely, he'd be just another fat reliever.
99% of the Ruth footage was taken in the last few years of his career - so in his prime he was not fat. If you don't know that - there is no reason to speak to you anymore.
Wasn’t last year the first time in a long time that no black players were on either team in the World Series?
Would’ve loved to see Ruth hit sliders and changeups that are faster today than the fastballs back in the 20s.
Get back to me when he actually plays in a playoff game let alone win a World Series
SIAP -- Whitey Ford first broke Ruth's record in 1960-1961.
This will always be an unfair comparison
You would have to figure that Ruth would have followed current physical training if he played today, and Ohtani would have not worked out as he has, had he played back then
Would love to see players today try and play with an antiquated baseball, no body protection at the plate, different bats, no nutrition or training programs, etc.
The only way to measure players is against their era.
Sure. Am only saying that 1927 Ruth would not be a major leaguer today. Not commenting on Ruth with today’s training.
I agree that all previous greats would not be as good if playing today unless they adhered to today's workout and prep standards
My point is that comparing Different generations of players is useless. No one knows how good any of the old timers would be now because they never went through today's processes
Anyone who says otherwise is speculating
If Ruth was playing today, he would have been born at a time where human men are 2-3 inches taller, much larger and stronger (i.e., he would be like current modern day athletes).
Or see how Ruth would’ve done vs Joe Rogan, Martin Dihigo, Rube Foster, among other Negro League HOFers.
Agreed that It’s silly to see how Ohtani would do Back then just like all of these RUTH WOULD DOMINATE TODAY arguments.
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I made no comment about Ohtani’s physique. That said, I could post a picture of Arnold at 27, wouldn’t mean he would have been a better ball player than a major leaguer.Ohtani at 27 next to Trout.
GO RU
Haters: Babe Ruth hit mph fastballs thrown by white plumbers.
Counter argument: Why didn't everyone hit 700 HRs then?
Counter argument: Why didn't everyone hit 700 HRs then?
Ohtani hasn’t dominated current times for a full season yet, so do you still want to stick by this speculative statement to compare 100 years ago?
Find it interesting that the only insults (whether directed at Ruth or other fans) cast in this thread are by those that favor Ohtani.
If Ohtani were plopped in MLB 100 years ago, how would he be able to hit as many HRs as he does? He would need to play a position to bat. And based on the only facts at hand, Ohtani isn’t one of the best 8 fielders on what has generally been a below average team.
Exactly. Ruth played all three outfield positions as well as a little first base. Ohtani would have played once a week in Ruth's day.
Well you kind of have to take everything into consideration in my opinion. No one trained in the 20's but today they do, so you'd have to assume Ruth would also. Also if you put Ohtani into the game in the 20's and 30's his arm might fall all after 3 or 4 seasons of pitching 250 to 300 innings.
+1
Ohtani wouldn't even be able to pitch back then since modern day pitchers are sissies.
I completely forgot about that. They had some cavernous stadiums back then.
Wins are so overrated. Much better when everybody gets a participation trophy.
I noticed that too.
Yeah they're bigger etc, but they're lousy baseball players. No fundamentals or baseball skills. Don't know how to run the bases, slide, beat a tag. Don't know how to field a grounder or throw the ball straight if they do manage to field it. Don't know how to go after a fly ball or pop up & can't throw the ball straight from the outfield, not to mention hit the cut off man. Try to uppercut everything & pull off the ball as well, not to mention not running hard out of the box if they do hit the ball. And oh yeah, they don't hit it that much. And of course they can't bunt. Pitchers can't go more than six innings. All of the above is why the game stinks.
I agree. I did say right off the bat (pun intended) that Ruth was a more dominant player in his time than Ohtani is today.
Whatever the top WWI fighter plane was in its day (maybe what von Richthofen flew ?) it would get destroyed by any modern fighter jet in seconds and before the WWI pilot became aware of the enemy.
That is my Ruth point. 1927 Ruth is a nobody in 2023. But he dominated his era more than Ohtani or anyone else since. By that measure, the only comparison we can make, he was the better player.
That has to be one of the worst analogies I've ever heard.
it perfectly explains my point in a simple way most people can comprehend. but not all, sadly. Planes or people or anything, you cant compare performance across different times unless by comparing to others in the same era.
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So give it 20 years and the Terminator will be terrorizing pitchers with the long ball!
Comparing players across eras is not workable -- too much has changed in the century between Ruth and Ohtani. All one can say is that Ruth was unique in his era -- more so, I think than Ohtani is in his.
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And let's remember, Babe Ruth got screwed out of a lot of HRs due to an old BS rule:
he played 5yrs (seasons) against negro league teams and dominated
you guys need learn your history
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Good point. To suggest a guy wasn't talented because he held another job is just ignorant.
Besides, didn't a grocery bagger take the AZ Cardinals to the Super Bowl?
And if Ruth couldn't, I guess Cobb couldn't either?