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RU05

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8 straight days of losses for lumber. Down 31%.

Probably good for home builders? Which have been hit recently.
 
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rurahrah000

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This drop in ATT is transition from dividend investors to semi growth investors. If ATT concentrates on telecommunications and building out 5G, they should be fine. They have lost a lot of money the past few years between Warner media and directv. They will have about ~$140 billion in debt once this deal is completed. Still will have $20 billion in cash flow. ATT should be a decent buy around $28-30 for long term investors only if they stop trying to do things they aren’t good at doing.
 

RU05

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Don't have a lot of greens today but Semi's dominate the top of my board.
 

RU05

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Overall a bunch better day than expected. Fun to read all the PE posts from the Little Bears this morning. :)
I bounced pretty well off my morning lows, still a stinker, but not terrible. This morning was def looking pretty terrible.
 

rurahrah000

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Nope - I’m still holding for better or worse. I have very little risk here based on my entry point. Worst case scenario I probably break even.
I think that the dividend investors are dumping this stock too soon. The deal with discovery won't go down until next year at the earliest. In the meantime, stop cold as we will continue to collect high dividend. I would buy this weakness if you are looking for dividend and then sell into next year.
 

RUJohnny99

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I’m still in the green on my AT&T position, but honestly have no idea what to make of the situation. On the one hand, the dividend will not be cut for a year and even then will still be comparable to VZ’s 4-5%. So, in the meantime, at current levels you could pick up a 7% return until the middle of 2022. On the other hand, I believe the combined WM/Dis company could be a crown jewel in the media/content industry so receiving 70% of the shares in the new company could be a wind-fall. There are also rumors that Apple could step in and buy the whole damn thing. Long story short - I have no clue what happens from here but I’m still holding AT&T for now.
I think the deal makes sense, and not just because I'm naked July 30 puts. lol. The phone biz is worth roughly $26 alone with a 4% yield that will grow with inflation. A boring old fashioned utility. But for an extra 3 bucks, you're effectively getting a long term warrant on a media company breaking free from an arranged marriage.
 

RU in IM

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Overall a bunch better day than expected. Fun to read all the PE posts from the Little Bears this morning. :)
Don’t be waking up the bears. Yeah, all your funds that you listed that you own were down except one (SOXX), your ARK was down 1.74% when the S&P was down only 0.29% (almost all your funds did worse), TESLA down 2.49% and is 37% off its high and ETH is down 34% in the last 24 hours. And your day was “a bunch better than expected.” Lol
 

RUAldo

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Big upward move coming soon, COVID-level cash on the sidelines and ready to go:


Tom Lee is about the only one that thinks the market is going to make a big upward move. There will be more pain ahead with some good entry points.
 

RU05

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Some serious bounces by a couple EV/hydro plays of late.

PLUG 35% up from it's recent lows.
RIDE up 50%
NKLA up 30%
 
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RU05

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SNOW is another that has had a nice recent bounce, got as low as $190, currently at $228.

Still trading at a ridiculus 109x price to sales.
 

T2Kplus20

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Don’t be waking up the bears. Yeah, all your funds that you listed that you own were down except one (SOXX), your ARK was down 1.74% when the S&P was down only 0.29% (almost all your funds did worse), TESLA down 2.49% and is 37% off its high and ETH is down 34% in the last 24 hours. And your day was “a bunch better than expected.” Lol
Little Bear, my value tech account was up today! 0.02% LOL.

Way, way, up on cryptos, just not today. No big whoop.
 

T2Kplus20

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Tom Lee is about the only one that thinks the market is going to make a big upward move. There will be more pain ahead with some good entry points.
Only "pain" if someone has to sell or needs the money. Don't be so scared.
 

RU05

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Not sure why PLUG is up so much. Any news?
There was some news a month or two ago about a clean hygrogen production deal in PA, but I don't think that is what this bounce is about.

Remember part of why it tanked was the accounting issue, so perhaps with earnings next week people are getting back in in anticipation of that getting cleared up?

Or maybe after getting cut 60something % it finally found a floor.
 
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rurahrah000

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Some serious bounces by a couple EV/hydro plays of late.

PLUG 35% up from it's recent lows.
RIDE up 50%
NKLA up 30%

SNOW is another that has had a nice recent bounce, got as low as $190, currently at $228.

Still trading at a ridiculus 109x price to sales.

That is the type of thinking that costs people a lot of money in the stock market.
 

RU05

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Add KSS to the list of companies who handily beat, from rev's to earnings, to guidance, and yet was down as much as 8% on the news.

And I get it, it's been a great run, so a dip even on good news isn't crazy, but another example of the market reeling in those companies that have had those big runs.
 

T2Kplus20

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Add KSS to the list of companies who handily beat, from rev's to earnings, to guidance, and yet was down as much as 8% on the news.

And I get it, it's been a great run, so a dip even on good news isn't crazy, but another example of the market reeling in those companies that have had those big runs.
The market is stupid and gets a lot of things wrong.
 

RU05

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Jim Farley, Ford CEO, on whether the chip shortage will continue into the 3rd qtr, "we don't think so" or at least "far far lower". Thinks the 2nd qtr was the chip shortage trough.
 
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RU05

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The market is stupid and gets a lot of things wrong.
I think it is always trying to fine tune itself, but often get's excited and gets out of whack.

Then there are those who try to take advantage of when the market gets out of whack, which gets it even more out of whack.

But this is a no sweat day imo. Im up 160% on the name since fall. Might add on the dip here?
 

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i spoke to a guy in Taiwan yesterday...covid hitting there and they are in panic mode...never got hit with much of a first wave. schools just closed, but businesses/factories and mass transportation still open.
 

RU05

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i spoke to a guy in Taiwan yesterday...covid hitting there and they are in panic mode...never got hit with much of a first wave. schools just closed, but businesses/factories and mass transportation still open.
Fair to say that given their track record thus far, that they will be able to tamp this out before it becomes an issue?