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Scarletnut

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US/NATO is mostly Bozos
If US plays a cyber card it will blow-up in our faces hard and fast (July pipeline shutoff was just a taste)
America sucks at cyber
Putin is another story .
Ukraine officials were on FB telling citizens to arm themselves and fight Russians
Ukraine troops were going AWOL
Ukrainians on socials were saying the strikes might be over in hours and not days
Unfortunately a lot of US and NATO blowhards gave Ukraine beer muscles
They thought they were up to tasks and that US, NATO and others had their backs
Now they've been hood-slapped
We have silly talk about Europe - who gets oil, wheat etc from Russia - "sanctioning" Russia.
As one commentator said "that's like a drug addict sanctioning his dealer."
If Joey Marbles was serious he would fire-up oil and gas production in US and cut Putin's bank
Marbles actually has US buying Russian oil - 7% of US consumption as I recall
The Ukraine thing didn't have to happen (nor did Afghanistan abortion)
The troubles should stay in Eurasia and could probably simmer down
The problem is US is lead by a chimera cadre of corrupt grifters, psychological weirdos and dopes
WWI was dopes doing dopey things
Now we hope US tards dont screw-up (as they do 100%) and wait for Taiwan because its 100% thats next
Have your tuna and flashlights ready - back-up your data - just in case the Bozos strike



And your post is based on what sources?
 

RUAldo

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The West/NATO doesn’t need to look strong. They just need to stay United and de-escalate.
Sure, but what does de-escalate even mean at this point? And, in a few hours the people of Russia will be waking up and learning of the sanctions that were announced this afternoon. Putin isn’t going to remain silent.
 

T2Kplus20

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Biden’s speech this afternoon seemed to indicate this will not be over quickly unless Putin retreats, which ain’t happening. I don’t see how either side backs down without looking weak. I think we are in for a roller-coaster stock market for the next week or two at a minimum.
Just talking about the actual military efforts and fighting. Don't care about sanctions and the political silliness (and I doubt the markets will care either).
 

Jtung230

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Sure, but what does de-escalate even mean at this point? And, in a few hours the people of Russia will be waking up and learning of the sanctions that were announced this afternoon. Putin isn’t going to remain silent.
1st step is a cease fire.
 
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LB3 was a little chicken this morning, but I have been somewhat aggressive over the last 6 weeks. But I did get a bite of the Apple at $153.97 this morning.
It was testing a couple moving averages. If it was just a trade put an order there and put a stop a little under to limit the downside if it broke. For now it’s bounced off and held.
 

T2Kplus20

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LB3 was a little chicken this morning, but I have been somewhat aggressive over the last 6 weeks. But I did get a bite of the Apple at $153.97 this morning.
Outstanding price for AAPL! I have been very successful waiting for the end of the day to buy. If it wasn't for work, I may have bought this morning, but likely just a little.
 

RU05

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Here you go. EPS excluding extraordinary items 1.84. EPS Normalized Annual 4.49

Aight, so I'm guessing most go with the former, the Etrade main page does.

But my Etrade P/E chart goes with the latter.

I also wonder how EPS excluding extra items (annual) is different than EPS excluding extra items (ttm) are different. I guess the former is the most recent accounting year?
 
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CRWD CEO on with Cramer:

CrowdStrike CEO says bank execs are 'very concerned' about Russian cyber attacks
.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG-4PUBG_W4&list=WL&index=17
 

RU05

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CRWD CEO on with Cramer:

CrowdStrike CEO says bank execs are 'very concerned' about Russian cyber attacks
.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG-4PUBG_W4&list=WL&index=17
The cyber security stocks, though still have not come in like most other high flying tech stocks.

Still some crazy valuations out there. Maybe for good reason.
 

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The cyber security stocks, though still have not come in like most other high flying tech stocks.

Still some crazy valuations out there. Maybe for good reason.
Everything I’ve read says the two strongest moves we could have applied were to sanction Putin directly, and kick them off Swift. Ukraine was begging for this. I saw House members on both sides of the aisle asking for this, which in today’s environment is very unusual. Yet FJB wouldn’t do either, and wouldn’t respond when asked why.
 

RUAldo

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Futures reverse and turn up on reports Russia is willing to talk with Ukraine. Also some inflation news out.

The “Russia willing to talk” crap makes me laugh. Putin just launched an invasion and is surrounding the capital. I wouldn’t be surprised if a huge reason for yesterday’s market reversal is that overseas investors realize the US stock market is the greatest show on Earth. Why roll the dice in any other market.
 

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Everything I’ve read says the two strongest moves we could have applied were to sanction Putin directly, and kick them off Swift. Ukraine was begging for this. I saw House members on both sides of the aisle asking for this, which in today’s environment is very unusual. Yet FJB wouldn’t do either, and wouldn’t respond when asked why.
Wouldn’t kicking Russia off of Swift require agreement from the entire coalition?
 

RUinPinehurst

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Futures reverse and turn up on reports Russia is willing to talk with Ukraine. Also some inflation news out.

Putin lies. "Talks" will go nowhere. Remember, according to him, this was a peacekeeping mission, limited to just those two eastern pro-Russia districts. In reality, it's an all-out war on a sovereign nation to remove a democratically elected president and create a Russian-controlled state.
 

RUschool

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Wouldn’t kicking Russia off of Swift require agreement from the entire coalition?
Of course, but there are Russia supporters on this board trying to create disinformation.


But Biden pointedly played down the need to block Russia from SWIFT, saying that while it's “always” still an option, “right now that's not the position that the rest of Europe wishes to take.” He also suggested the sanctions being put in place would have more teeth.
 
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Sure, but what does de-escalate even mean at this point? And, in a few hours the people of Russia will be waking up and learning of the sanctions that were announced this afternoon. Putin isn’t going to remain silent.
Good thread on Purim’s rise to power/motivations…
 

RUinPinehurst

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Everything I’ve read says the two strongest moves we could have applied were to sanction Putin directly, and kick them off Swift. Ukraine was begging for this. I saw House members on both sides of the aisle asking for this, which in today’s environment is very unusual. Yet FJB wouldn’t do either, and wouldn’t respond when asked why.
Strongest move is to cut off Russia's natural gas and oil exports. But the NATO coalition does not have the stomach for that.
 
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Jtung230

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Putin lies. "Talks" will go nowhere. Remember, according to him, this was a peacekeeping mission, limited to just those two eastern pro-Russia districts. In reality, it's an all-out war on a sovereign nation to remove a democratically elected president and create a Russian-controlled state.
It’s a cease fire. That’s a great start.
 
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The “Russia willing to talk” crap makes me laugh. Putin just launched an invasion and is surrounding the capital. I wouldn’t be surprised if a huge reason for yesterday’s market reversal is that overseas investors realize the US stock market is the greatest show on Earth. Why roll the dice in any other market.
Whether it's real or not is besides the point, how the market reacts on the headlines is what matters. We'll see if the positive momentum lasts the day and into the weekend.
 
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Panelist on halftime said more companies in the entire Nasdaq are at 52 week lows compared to 2002 and 2008. The other day I heard about 38% of the S&P is in a bear market.
It's gone up since last I heard. 76% of the Nasdaq in a bear market and 51% of the S&P in a bear market they said this morning.
 

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I am not an expert but 2 things give me hope.
Internal pressure from within Russia, Citizens protests and soldiers abandoning fighting. Both situations happened yesterday. Hopefully they become more widespread
 
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Jtung230

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A cease-fire after Putin takes his objectives is meaningless. Might, however, be a sign that Ukrainian resistance and protests in Russia were miscalculated by Putin.
You mean saving lives is meaningless? He has what he wants and is not going to burn it all down is the good news.
 

RUAldo

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A cease-fire after Putin takes his objectives is meaningless. Might, however, be a sign that Ukrainian resistance and protests in Russia were miscalculated by Putin.
Agree 100%. Although it would be a huge embarrassment for Putin if he miscalculated the Ukrainian forces. I think he doubles-down at that point unless pressure from within Russia forces him in a different direction. But what does a cease-fire really mean when his forces surround the capital. He’s basically gotten exactly what he wanted in the first place, and would likely seek to rinse-and-repeat across the Baltic.
 

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You mean saving lives is meaningless? He has what he wants and is not going to burn it all down is the good news.
Lives have already been lost at the hands of a madman. Now you think a cease-fire signals what? I’ll be the first to admit I underestimated Putin. The guy is a total nut-job.
 
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This situation is showing me that actions and decisions made long ago have a substantial impact many years later.

It really is an indication that analysis of current events may not accurately portray the cause.

Two issues that seem so important now but that did not seem to generate much concern when they occurred are the apparent misleading/lie that Bush Sr and Baker told Gorbachev. The second is the agreement provided Ukraine when they gave up all their nuclear weapons.

Seems to me those have more to do with this situation and impact on the markets than any decision made by the last 3 administrations
 

RUAldo

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It’s a cease fire. That’s a great start.
I’ll also add that a cease-fire is virtually meaningless when it occurs after one unprovoked country invades another. All it would signal is that Putin got what he wanted. It’s totally different when you have two willing participants going to war.
 
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This situation is showing me that actions and decisions made long ago have a substantial impact many years later.

It really is an indication that analysis of current events may not accurately portray the cause.

Two issues that seem so important now but that did not seem to generate much concern when they occurred are the apparent misleading/lie that Bush Sr and Baker told Gorbachev. The second is the agreement provided Ukraine when they gave up all their nuclear weapons.

Seems to me those have more to do with this situation and impact on the markets than any decision made by the last 3 administrations
We promised Ukraine that we would have their back if they gave up the nuclear weapons and Russia attacked. Russia also promised not to invade as part of the agreement. Ukraine was lied to by both sides.
 
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I see DEO and BUD up 3.5-4.5%. I think BUD's earnings were good and they projected better sales with more people getting out of the house etc..Sounds like the price hikes are being tolerated and premium brands are doing well.

Lots of green at the open across sectors, except in tech.
 

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It's gone up since last I heard. 76% of the Nasdaq in a bear market and 51% of the S&P in a bear market they said this morning.
Sounds about right. The big boys have been holding up the house, which is why index and fund investors have recently done better than stock pickers.
 

RUAldo

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I see DEO and BUD up 3.5-4.5%. I think BUD's earnings were good and they projected better sales with more people getting out of the house etc..Sounds like the price hikes are being tolerated and premium brands are doing well.

Lots of green at the open across sectors, except in tech.
You ever look at the 1-year chart on SAM? Hard to believe the stock was over $1200 and is now down something like a wicked 70%.