OT: Stock and Investment Thread

T2Kplus20

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I tend to agree with this but feel the Fed will not likely increase much more. What had the markets sell off is when Powell said that there would likely not be any rate cuts this year. People were hoping for cuts but that doesn't seem likely.
There will be cuts since CPI is on track to be under 3% (YoY) by the end of the summer. Just gotta do the math, especially regarding shelter which is the only thing propping up "government inflation".
 

RUDead

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I tend to agree with this but feel the Fed will not likely increase much more. What had the markets sell off is when Powell said that there would likely not be any rate cuts this year. People were hoping for cuts but that doesn't seem likely.

I think the markets sold off because that moron Yellen opened her mouth.

As for Powell, I doubt he knows what he will do going forward. I think it will all be data dependent going forward and decisions will be made meeting to meeting.
 
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You can not expect the market to go higher and get a rate cut at the same time. It's not happening. Now, if the bottom falls off, maybe then, you'll get your rate cut before the end of the year.
 

DHajekRC84

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CNBC grilling(a little) a Goldman Sachs oil guy for his $100 call.

WTI currently just under $70, and hit it's 12 month lows on the 13th of this month.

Still waiting to see that dip show up at the pump.
you probably won't see it because the decrease in Oil price will most likely be offset by the higher gas prices we normally see climb from now thru June as travel increases (or so they say ) every year. Maybe this year they at least remain stable. (ha)
 
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Thankfully, I sold 80% of my shares last year so this latest hit won’t hurt much. What a POS. If true, I hope Dorsey & Co. end up in orange jumpsuits.
I never touched these fintech companies because of my conservative nature. I've said V/MA are my faves and PYPL a distant 3rd behind them.
 

RUfromSoCal?

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The link I posted. I'm happy the market is still pricing in a .25% hike so the Fed can save face. It will make the upcoming pause announcement even more impactful!

0% chance of .50%
75% chance of .25%
25% chance of no increase
lol, oh bro... how many times you gonna do this....

.25 march, .25 may .25 June

a couple runs on shitbancs changes little...
 
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anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy

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10 year treasury has had a tough time breaking through 3.42. If it closes below that today, could there be room to fall further? @RUTGERS95
 

RUinPinehurst

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No, looking at the chart, it looks like one more hike and then a pause.
Current rate is 4.75/5%. Seeing many terminal rate projections of 5.75/6%. And then staying there for a long while. With that, one more hike (of 25 bps?) and then a long pause seems unlikely.
 

RUfromSoCal?

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Current rate is 4.75/5%. Seeing many terminal rate projections of 5.75/6%. And then staying there for a long while. With that, one more hike (of 25 bps?) and then a long pause seems unlikely.
If there's significant more bank runs/failures - that will have the same impact in restricting credit that 50bps would. So, sure - there could be a pause (if that happens).

But, clearly the Fed has separated oversight from monetary policy. If anything, the Liquidity window is further-inflationary.

there's no end to bps-up in sight....
 
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DHajekRC84

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Current rate is 4.75/5%. Seeing many terminal rate projections of 5.75/6%. And then staying there for a long while. With that, one more hike (of 25 bps?) and then a long pause seems unlikely.
Another full point? I sure hope not. They can take a break right now then decide if another point is required. Unless of course you're married to a position as they seem to be.. regardless.

They're like the people at a tailgate who just want to get drunk and don't want to even think about a bottle of water on the journey.
 

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Interesting to see this chart re commercial real estate. Banks are getting all the attention but these REITs are getting crushed. Vornado chart looks like credit suisse.

 
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anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy

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Current rate is 4.75/5%. Seeing many terminal rate projections of 5.75/6%. And then staying there for a long while. With that, one more hike (of 25 bps?) and then a long pause seems unlikely.
Where the hell are you seeing this? The fed themselves isnt even projecting that

 
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anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy

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Interesting to see this chart re commercial real estate. Banks are getting all the attention but these REITs are getting crushed. Vornado chart looks like credit suisse.

Unfathomable to me how they have so much exposure in office. Office has been dying for decades
 

T2Kplus20

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Current rate is 4.75/5%. Seeing many terminal rate projections of 5.75/6%. And then staying there for a long while. With that, one more hike (of 25 bps?) and then a long pause seems unlikely.
Don’t fight the Fed. They say only one more. :)