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RUAldo

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Oh it's a legitimate asset class. Whether it's a currency or not is another question.
Seems that it’s an asset class entirely driven by speculation. There is no real transactional market for the altcoins.
 

T2Kplus20

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Seems that it’s an asset class entirely driven by speculation. There is no real transactional market for the altcoins.
For altcoins, not yet. For BTC and ETH (and even stable coins), big transactional markets for them.
 

mdk02

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This may not be an investment topic but since there's a lot of talk about EV and clean energy, we've mentioned fusion also. If the timeline in this article is remotely accurate, our climate change future would certainly look brighter.


People have tried to make fusion work for 50 years without success. If their timelines turned out to be accurate we'd have had a working fusion reactor by 1990, then 1995, then 2000 .....

If you want to buy the equivilent of a MegaMillions ticket have fun.
 

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People have tried to make fusion work for 50 years without success. If their timelines turned out to be accurate we'd have had a working fusion reactor by 1990, then 1995, then 2000 .....

If you want to buy the equivilent of a MegaMillions ticket have fun.
First of all, I'm not advocating investing in this technology. I'm just pointing out the technology which you can't compare to technology in 1990 or 1995. Advances in all technology is advancing at lightening speed. Poopooing ideas that seem like science fiction sounds a lot like the disparaging of the internet as a viable vehicle of communication and business in the 1990's.
 
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Rutgers Chris

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First of all, I'm not advocating investing in this technology. I'm just pointing out the technology which you can't compare to technology in 1990 or 1995. Advances in all technology is advancing at lightening speed. Poopooing ideas that seem like science fiction sounds a lot like the disparaging of the internet as a viable vehicle of communication and business in the 1990's.
If you have a spare 3.5 hours, listen to Elon on Joe Rogen yesterday. His views on various technologies are mind-blowing.
 

T2Kplus20

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People have tried to make fusion work for 50 years without success. If their timelines turned out to be accurate we'd have had a working fusion reactor by 1990, then 1995, then 2000 .....

If you want to buy the equivilent of a MegaMillions ticket have fun.
Experts have been saying that fusion is only 10 years away for the past 50 years. 😁
 

mdk02

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Speaking of renewables, there is an entire section in today's WSJ devoted energy and climate solutions. Obviously behind a pay wall.
 

T2Kplus20

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@RU-05
Miners blowing up today. RIOT, HIVE, and ARGO. Not sure why, but MARA has been lagging for the past few days. Galaxy over $15 now.

EDIT - Argo leading the way, up 38%.

Not sure if I mentioned this, but Argo was added to BLOK on Feb 5 (in the 2% position).
 
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If you have a spare 3.5 hours, listen to Elon on Joe Rogen yesterday. His views on various technologies are mind-blowing.
2 guys drinking whiskey, having some laughs, bullshitting about science, a little politics, and engineering. It was a great listen. I continue to be amazed at the level of detail Elon knows about each and every one of his projects whether it's Tesla, Neuralink, Boring Co, or SpaceX.
 

T2Kplus20

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Anybody have thoughts about Motley Fool? Is it worth the $199 yearly fee?
I looked into Motley Fool and Morningstar Premium. I went with Morningstar since I am more of a fund/ETF guy. However, MS has a lot of stock data and analyses. I have been very happy with their services and online options, including the X-Ray Portfolio tool.

Regardless, if you want straight-up stock recommendations, the Fool is probably better for you because that is their main focus.
 
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Thanks but I am a Chase Sapphire Reserve guy.

Promo is running through May 1st unless they max out for redemptions. I have the CSR and also have the AMEX Blue (no annual fee) just to take advantage of Amex Offers. Not too late to sign up...
 

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Jtung230

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It’ll never be currency because it’s too volatile. Read the story about the guy who paid 10k BTC for 2 pizzas. Why would anyone pay someone an asset that can move up 10 to 20% for a fixed cost item? The other way is true too. Who wants to accept payment that can decrease 10-20%. The best hope is that it replaces Gold.
 
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T2Kplus20

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It’ll never be currency because it’s too volatile. Read the story about the guy who paid 10k BTC for 2 pizzas. Why would anyone pay someone an asset that can move up 10 to 20% for a fixed cost item? The other way is true too. Who wants to accept payment that can decrease 10-20%. The best hope is that it replaces Gold.
Because in these countries, their currency can move up 100 to 200% for a fixed cost item. Great step forward for them!

But in most cases, I agree, BTC is not a currency option, it is a replacement for gold (i.e., stored value).
 

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I don't believe that bitcoin will always be this volatile. Once it is widely accepted as currency, its price fluctuation significantly diminish. Until that point is reached, this is a golden opportunity to profit until that pricepoint is reached.
 
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I don't believe that bitcoin will always be this volatile. Once it is widely accepted as currency, its price fluctuation significantly diminish. Until that point is reached, this is a golden opportunity to profit until that pricepoint is reached.
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Agreed. The more institutions jump in, the less volatile it will be. It's been a nice bull run for the past 2 months, so let's see how big the correction is. After hitting $40k, it only went down to $30k and then bounced again. I assume the floor has been raised quite a bit.
 

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https://coingape.com/central-bank-of-kenya-to-use-bitcoin-as-reserve-currency/

"Shield Kenya from exploitative loans that threaten the sovereignty of Kenya" Do you realize what a big FU that is to China?

I'm surprised Zimbabwe hasn't done it. Then you wouldn't have to bring a wheelbarrow full of currency to the store to buy a Coke.

The article was reportedly published by a Satire Website

The above sentence appeared in bold print below the linked article. Is there a legitimate source for this news?
 

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The article was reportedly published by a Satire Website

The above sentence appeared in bold print below the linked article. Is there a legitimate source for this news?
Top BTC news articles via Google are the following (doesn't seem to be anything on Kenya):

Miami votes to study using Bitcoin for employee salaries and payments to City Hall


Regardless of Kenya, still pretty interesting news.
 

Jtung230

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Just covered part of my short on BLNK and doubled down on VIX. Think it’s an overcrowded trade like meeting on KC Chiefs, but it feels so right.
 

Jtung230

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BLNK down 0.5% today. Big move. 😜
Up 10% on the trade. Was hoping for a bigger move but decided that better upside on VIX. I didn’t close out all of it. Will wait until it’s in the mid 40s. E*TRADE keeps dropping the rate to borrow the shares.
 
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Up 10% on the trade. Was hoping for a bigger move but decided that better upside on VIX. I didn’t close out all of it. Will wait until it’s in the mid 40s. E*TRADE keeps dropping the rate to borrow the shares.
Every bit helps! Nice to see the market sprint through the finish line today. Great way to start the long weekend.

Amazing week for my crypto portfolio. Up overall about 48%. GBTC, ETHE, HIVE, Argo, and Galaxy. Argo is up over 90% for me. HIVE and Galaxy are up about 70%. That works!
 

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Agreed. The more institutions jump in, the less volatile it will be. It's been a nice bull run for the past 2 months, so let's see how big the correction is. After hitting $40k, it only went down to $30k and then bounced again. I assume the floor has been raised quite a bit.

Aren't the cryptocurrency your home run stocks? You don't want them to be volatile or else the upside is limited. Also, it can't become sole currency for a country because there is a finite number of bitcoins. These governments need to have the flexibility to print more money if needed.

Just covered part of my short on BLNK and doubled down on VIX. Think it’s an overcrowded trade like meeting on KC Chiefs, but it feels so right.

Good move. Did you buy calls in the VIX? Today was a good day to buy UVXY. I used some of my proceeds from TLRY and APHA gains to buy UVXY call options. I bought 1000 March 12 call options ($8.5) for $1.79. Let's see how it goes.
 

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I’ve been investing a long time and have a professional degree, yet I can’t wrap my head around these altcoins and why anyone would risk a penny. Here’s a quick blurb from an article touting Clover as one of the most promising altcoins for 2021. Who understands what any of this means?

Clover
Clover is a Polkadot parachain offering an all-in-one DeFi platform backed by Bithumb Global. It’s open for developers to contribute to modules and applications, reducing the need to repeat the effort to recode the same functionality across different applications. Along with the open platform, Clover is also planning to launch several in-house applications with standard features such as decentralized token swaps, lending, and a wallet.

This is my exact point. How does anyone, especially an investor, decipher what any of this means in order make an informed investment or trading decision?

It's extremely difficult to figure out what what/if you should invest in any alt coins. There's thousands of them, theyre unregulated and anyone can start one. Theyre all open source. In theory, I could go on Github download the source code for Ethereum and rebrand it as the Round Table coin. ...and poof, there it is. Scary, right?

The counter is finding alts that have real use cases, defi, lending, or any other problems. Most alt coins talk a good game about what they're going to do, but very few have real usage right now. The key word in that paragraph about clover is PLANNING. They're planning to do x, y & z. That's all sunshine and kittens but when will the plan phase get shifted to the execute phase.

Thats why I like the Elastos coin. Their decentralized web platform is built. It's live. You can use it. The UX needs some work, but it's not in planning. It's live.
 

Jtung230

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Every bit helps! Nice to see the market sprint through the finish line today. Great way to start the long weekend.

Amazing week for my crypto portfolio. Up overall about 48%. GBTC, ETHE, HIVE, Argo, and Galaxy. Argo is up over 90% for me. HIVE and Galaxy are up about 70%. That works!
Good way to end a week. My FOLM prevents me from FOMO.
 

RUAldo

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I don't believe that bitcoin will always be this volatile. Once it is widely accepted as currency, its price fluctuation significantly diminish. Until that point is reached, this is a golden opportunity to profit until that pricepoint is reached.
The BTC madness is all driven by speculation and RH/retail gamblers looking to cash in. BTC skyrocketed a few years ago and then came crashing down. Add in pumpers like Musk and Kramer and it’s the perfect storm. This time, however, may be different but I’m not convinced BTC and altcoins are going to take over the world.