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T2Kplus20

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I bought Lucid last week in the high 30's, now Stocktwits and Reddits are all over this stock, over 58 in after hours, huge volume traded today. Should be an interesting day tomorrow.
If they push, be ready with an exit strategy!
 

Rutgers Chris

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It scares me enough not to buy Lucid or Rivian, but overall, most top companies are crushing earnings quarter after quarter.
Lucid is valued more than Ford and 2 analysts said there may be no sky to the upcoming valuations. They made 235k on one battery deal this year. That should scare everyone
Tongue in cheek analysis with a hint of truth…
 

Rutgers Chris

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I bought Lucid last week in the high 30's, now Stocktwits and Reddits are all over this stock, over 58 in after hours, huge volume traded today. Should be an interesting day tomorrow.
Fintwit has been on this since January - tracking private jets like a college coach search saga trying to uncover if CCIV was truly merging with Lucid. Reddit actually had this stock lumped in as a meme stock with GME and AMC on the infamous day that Robinhood limited buying stocks. That being said, the momentum on this is there (deliveries, earnings, Rivian IPO) and I agree I hope tomorrow is interesting.
 
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rurahrah000

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Fintwit has been on this since January - tracking private jets like a college coach search saga trying to uncover if CCIV was truly merging with Lucid. Reddit actually had this stock lumped in as a meme stock with GME and AMC on the infamous day that Robinhood limited buying stocks. That being said, the momentum on this is there (deliveries, earnings, Rivian IPO) and I agree I hope tomorrow is interesting.

Lucid will jump higher and then there will a day of capitulation. That will be the day to either buy puts or sell upside calls.
 

mdk02

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I bought Lucid last week in the high 30's, now Stocktwits and Reddits are all over this stock, over 58 in after hours, huge volume traded today. Should be an interesting day tomorrow.

Both Lucid and Rivan are valued higher than both Ford and GM. I realize the analogy isn't perfect, but in the EV space we're approaching Pets.com territory.
 

RU05

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Seeing a bunch of small cappers which were running a month or two back really .

SPI, CEI, PROG, EYES.

Not sure if they are reddit runners or not.
 

RU05

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Both Lucid and Rivan are valued higher than both Ford and GM. I realize the analogy isn't perfect, but in the EV space we're approaching Pets.com territory.
I think it's crazy too, but part of the argument is these new companies, which do have significant backing, do have orders in place(RVIN has a built in customer in AMZN) are very near to actual production, but don't have the legacy issues of pension and other union concerns that the legacies deal with.
 

Rutgers Chris

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Prog is already a near double off it's lows so I wonder where it is on it's run.

CEI still early.

Big overnight moves for each.
CEI was Twitter pumped to 3.82 back in October before dumping. There was talk of an actual catalyst that didn't seem to materialize. This might be it, or it might just be another pump.
 
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PYPL got a downgrade today. To market perform. The disruptor being disrupted by the likes of Affirm.
 

mdk02

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Good comment for everything.....except TSLA (who is producing 1m+ cars a year).

And Tesla just got an extra billion dollar expense by Musk exercising those stock options. Along with the employers share of Medicare withholding as a cash expense. Not a dot.com equivilent but perhaps overvalued.
 

Jtung230

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Good comment for everything.....except TSLA (who is producing 1m+ cars a year).
The dot com did give us Amazon. But Amazon was able to change their business model to get to where they are today. Tesla will have to do the same. They need to sell at least 10mm cars annually to justify their current valuation.
 

T2Kplus20

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And Tesla just got an extra billion dollar expense by Musk exercising those stock options. Along with the employers share of Medicare withholding as a cash expense. Not a dot.com equivilent but perhaps overvalued.
Musk didn't choose to excise those options, the 10-year time limit hit.
 

T2Kplus20

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The dot com did give us Amazon. But Amazon was able to change their business model to get to where they are today. Tesla will have to do the same. They need to sell at least 10mm cars annually to justify their current valuation.
When TSLA gets to 10mm cars, their valuation will be 4-5x of today's.
 

mdk02

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Musk didn't choose to excise those options, the 10-year time limit hit.

From what I read over the last week they had a 2nd qtr 2022 expiration date. And that's actually irrelevant, as it still dilutes ownership and creates a multimillion dollar cash payroll expense.
 

RU05

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Tom Lee and fundstrat(due to fundstrats top technician) grow near term cautious.

Perhaps a "speed bumb"? "Maybe 5%"?

Though thinks it could be a "text book" short term dip which leads to a year end rally.
 

RU05

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Bought some SPI. Photovaltic company with a price to rev's of 1x and a price to book of 3x.

Reports 1/2 years instead of quarterly, and just reported 40% yoy rev increase for the first half.

Was over $12 early in the year, currently at $7.

Sold $10 calls which expire Friday. 1.89% premium.

Dec $10 calls good for 7% premium.
 

T2Kplus20

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Tom Lee and fundstrat(due to fundstrats top technician) grow near term cautious.

Perhaps a "speed bumb"? "Maybe 5%"?

Though thinks it could be a "text book" short term dip which leads to a year end rally.
Everything with Tom Lee ends with a rally! :)
 

RUAldo

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PYPL got a downgrade today. To market perform. The disruptor being disrupted by the likes of Affirm.
I’ve got a small position in PYPL. I don’t think it will be hard for PYPL to replicate Affirm’s success in the buy-now-pay-later space. I don’t believe that Affirm’s algorithms give them a moat. I put Affirm in the TDOC or DocuSign category. Not hard for the big guys to replicate it.
 

rurahrah000

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I’ve got a small position in PYPL. I don’t think it will be hard for PYPL to replicate Affirm’s success in the buy-now-pay-later space. I don’t believe that Affirm’s algorithms give them a moat. I put Affirm in the TDOC or DocuSign category. Not hard for the big guys to replicate it.

You are right. There does not seem to be anything special about BNPL. I suspect that most of these companies will eventually get absorbed by the big banks or go out of business unless they come up with an innovative technology.
 
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I’ve got a small position in PYPL. I don’t think it will be hard for PYPL to replicate Affirm’s success in the buy-now-pay-later space. I don’t believe that Affirm’s algorithms give them a moat. I put Affirm in the TDOC or DocuSign category. Not hard for the big guys to replicate it.

PayPal's business is still strong. I'm also invested in PYPL - for the long term. There is a lot of froth and angst in this space right now, but over time PYPL should be just fine - their business is strong.
 
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