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Seeing MSFT at $289 right now on my Bloomberg. 12 month average price is $281, high of $343 on 11/19/21, low of $227 on 3/04/21.
It traded as low as 269 in the after hours and now is trading around 277-280. Still got the conference call too which can move things as well.

There are always itchy trigger fingers out there so you never know where the dust will settle after some time passes and the info gets digested.
 

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Seeing MSFT at $289 right now on my Bloomberg. 12 month average price is $281, high of $343 on 11/19/21, low of $227 on 3/04/21.
We won’t know where MSFT lands until the get to the guidance portion of the earnings call. Regardless, not a good sign that it immediately went red b/c I think every trader/investor on Earth was hoping for a huge beat.
 

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MSFT bouncing back a bit, at -3% now. Smarter people battling back against the dumb ones.
We don’t know who’s smart/dumb yet. The beat was not great. And COVID may have accelerated the tech cycle pulling forward sales. We won’t know until they get to guidance.
 

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Regardless of whether MSFT rebounds to the green, it goes to show you even big tech has lost some favor. Sure, MSFT can hit $400 by EOY but they will need to nail execution every quarter. Probably time to come up with new ideas. Healthcare may be the place to hide and thrive. Anyone have any recommendations?
 
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MSFT bouncing back a bit, at -3% now. Smarter people battling back against the dumb ones.
I'm not bullish to the extent you are or say these kind of stocks will bounce back just like that.

But I'm okay with it getting hit. I'll be looking at places to add. Part of me feels kind of good because MSFT might be able to accomplish what NFLX couldn't and bring other tech names (FB, AAPL, etc...)that I've wanted towards me at levels I was willing to by them and am comfortable owning them whatever happens.

Short term I can't tell you what will happen for sure but long term I feel good these kind of companies will be okay.
 
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I'm not bullish to the extent you are or say these kind of stocks will bounce back just like that.

But I'm okay with it getting hit. I'll be looking at places to add. Part of me feels kind of good because MSFT might be able to accomplish what NFLX couldn't and bring other tech names (FB, AAPL, etc...)that I've wanted towards me at levels I was willing to by them and am comfortable owning them whatever happens.

Short term I can't tell you what will happen for sure but long term I feel good these kind of companies will be okay.
Agreed on long term. I'm in the greedy mode for short term! I have more buying to do and if we get to an acceptable level, it may be leverage time. Fun stuff!
 

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Regardless of whether MSFT rebounds to the green, it goes to show you even big tech has lost some favor. Sure, MSFT can hit $400 by EOY but they will need to nail execution every quarter. Probably time to come up with new ideas. Healthcare may be the place to hide and thrive. Anyone have any recommendations?
My recommendation will always be playing HC via a fund or etf. The randomness of clinical trials and FDA decisions make it essentially gambling (unless you are willing to buy 10+ stocks to mitigate the unpredictability and create your own mini fund).
 
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Regardless of whether MSFT rebounds to the green, it goes to show you even big tech has lost some favor. Sure, MSFT can hit $400 by EOY but they will need to nail execution every quarter. Probably time to come up with new ideas. Healthcare may be the place to hide and thrive. Anyone have any recommendations?
Healthcare, Energy, Consumer Staples are the places pundits think are good places to go.

I saw PG recommended today and I'm like that's near the highs no way for me. Quite a few staples names are I'm not someone who can buy a stock like that even if I like the company itself. I prefer to catch knives than buy things near highs lol. It would have to be a situation like the UL one I mentioned above.

NKE, DIS are a couple I've been watching but still haven't pulled the trigger and looking to see if they go lower. DIS specifically wondering if it will close a gap down below.
 
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Agreed on long term. I'm in the greedy mode for short term! I have more buying to do and if we get to an acceptable level, it may be leverage time. Fun stuff!
I never have a time frame. I just want to have a profit, hopefully a healthy one lol. If it happens quick fine, if it takes some time fine.
 
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Healthcare, Energy, Consumer Staples are the places pundits think are good places to go.

I saw PG recommended today and I'm like that's near the highs no way for me. Quite a few staples names are I'm not someone who can buy a stock like that even if I like the company itself. I prefer to catch knives than buy things near highs lol. It would have to be a situation like the UL one I mentioned above.

NKE, DIS are a couple I've been watching but still haven't pulled the trigger and looking to see if they go lower. DIS specifically wondering if it will close a gap down below.
My issue with Disney is simple = I’ve heard analysts pushing Disney lately because it’s essentially back to pre-COVID levels and now you get D+ baked into the numbers. However, they fail to mention that Disney was popular with income investors because it was a great dividend play. Well, they cut the dividend due to COVID and have yet to reinstitute it. Plus, Omicron could not have helped Disney’s quarter. I actually had a family trip to Disney that I cancelled early January and the rep on the phone led me to believe they were flooded with those phone calls. But again, just my opinion.
 

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MSFT suffered with a slowing cloud business but overall they beat earnings. Just a typical selloff after earnings release and I thin it will bounce back quickly.

What doesnt look good though is the initial drop as that will create panic and likely to see more red tomorrow across the board.

Lets see how the Meme crowd handles TSLA reporting tomorrow
 
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My issue with Disney is simple = I’ve heard analysts pushing Disney lately because it’s essentially back to pre-COVID levels and now you get D+ baked into the numbers. However, they fail to mention that Disney was popular with income investors because it was a great dividend play. Well, they cut the dividend due to COVID and have yet to reinstitute it. Plus, Omicron could not have helped Disney’s quarter. I actually had a family trip to Disney that I cancelled early January and the rep on the phone led me to believe they were flooded with those phone calls. But again, just my opinion.
I'm happy to hear anyone's opinion regardless of whether it's 180 from me or not and I consider you more knowledgeable than me too.

I hope DIS earnings aren't that great and then maybe they get a flush out like NFLX. If it can get to the 115 area I'm more amenable to buying there. It also has some support there and will close a gap. It would be like a 45% move off the highs which would be comparable to the move it had at the start of the pandemic. A move like that is not something you see often in a stock like DIS so I'm not even sure it'll get there but I'm willing to wait and see. It's oversold on a medium term basis too. Omicron wearing off might help along with it being a reopening play as well. Not a fan of the CEO though and management is important.
 

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MSFT suffered with a slowing cloud business but overall they beat earnings. Just a typical selloff after earnings release and I thin it will bounce back quickly.

What doesnt look good though is the initial drop as that will create panic and likely to see more red tomorrow across the board.

Lets see how the Meme crowd handles TSLA reporting tomorrow
Let's put quotes around "slowing". After 4 quarters of 50% or 51% growth, it grew.....wait for it.....46% (which matched street expectations). Oh the humanity. LOL.

Agreed that more irrational red is coming. Gotta keep buying.
 
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Strong earnings, double beat!

Earnings: $2.48, adjusted, vs. $2.31 per share as expected by analysts, according to Refinitiv.

Revenue: $51.73 billion, vs. $50.88 billion as expected by analysts, according to Refinitiv.

Revenue increased by 20% year over year in the quarter, according to a statement, compared with almost 22% growth in the previous quarter.
MSFT had a good report, but it will take a few others to help the confidence of this market. We have the following issues that we are dealing with, inflation, china, Ukraine, Bidens cognitive issues, The U.S. collapsing foreign policy, Omicron which is waning, High crime rates all over america, and lots of other issues. But if we get a few more good earnings reports this market could stabilize very quickly.
 
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I worried for the other Techs. It looks like some more downward pressure.

Wow, AMZN below 2,800 now. Almost 100% of the analysts had a target of 4,300 and all their firms were probably selling the last week.
 
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I worried for the other Techs. It looks like some more downward pressure.

Wow, AMZN below 2,800 now. Almost 100% of the analysts had a target of 4,300 and all their firms were probably selling the last week.
Amazon is probably behaving the oddest of all the big tech stocks. Seems like nobody even talks about it as a FAANG darling anymore. I don’t know if it’s the PE, operating margins, etc. but it’s gotten crushed since it hit $3700. I’m wondering if it could be a sleeper and report better than expected numbers.
 

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Amazon is probably behaving the oddest of all the big tech stocks. Seems like nobody even talks about it as a FAANG darling anymore. I don’t know if it’s the PE, operating margins, etc. but it’s gotten crushed since it hit $3700. I’m wondering if it could be a sleeper and report better than expected numbers.
Several firms made it best bet for 2022.

Does everyone have over 50% of the assets in stocks? Buy and hold. I assume some have been moving to cash before this week. Two weeks ago I was about 80% cash, even with only 30% in stocks now, it hurts.
 
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Several firms made it best bet for 2022.
Who knows…Perhaps it’s the one to buy on this major down-swing, especially if it’s cloud business performed well relative to Azure and IBM now that they both already reported.
 
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I bought some AMZN at 2900 like I mentioned above. It was the bottom of a trading range. It broke through it and that could be resistance at least in the short term. On yesterdays turnaround it rallied right up to that 2900 level and then rejected from it today.

Think it’s the same story that is a question for some other companies. How much was pulled forward because of the pandemic and are the comps hard to beat as the pandemic wears off. AWS is still a jewel though. PE might be high also in this type of environment in the market but as historical PE for AMZN not too bad. I have another order waiting at 2500 if it gets there.
 

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Capitulation will be Feb 1 or 2 when all the Tech earnings come out so I expect the market to continue down until then. Hope I m wrong.
Honestly, that works for me. Sure, I would love to see the turnaround tomorrow, but another week or so of buying opportunities is fine as well.
 

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Several firms made it best bet for 2022.

Does everyone have over 50% of the assets in stocks? Buy and hold. I assume some have been moving to cash before this week. Two weeks ago I was about 80% cash, even with only 30% in stocks now, it hurts.
FMV for AMZN is over $4000.
 

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MSFT had a good report, but it will take a few others to help the confidence of this market. We have the following issues that we are dealing with, inflation, china, Ukraine, Bidens cognitive issues, The U.S. collapsing foreign policy, Omicron which is waning, High crime rates all over america, and lots of other issues. But if we get a few more good earnings reports this market could stabilize very quickly.

Most of those seem to be QAnon issues and not national issues. Ukraine, inflation and COVID are the only real issues of concern for Wall Street.
 
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I bought some AMZN at 2900 like I mentioned above. It was the bottom of a trading range. It broke through it and that could be resistance at least in the short term. On yesterdays turnaround it rallied right up to that 2900 level and then rejected from it today.

Think it’s the same story that is a question for some other companies. How much was pulled forward because of the pandemic and are the comps hard to beat as the pandemic wears off. AWS is still a jewel though. PE might be high also in this type of environment in the market but as historical PE for AMZN not too bad. I have another order waiting at 2500 if it gets there.
$2500 seems like a great entry point
 
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From some articles:

Shares fell more than 5% in after-hours trading following the release of the results, but reversed to a gain of more than 1% after Chief Financial Officer Amy Hood shared Microsoft’s forecast in a conference call Tuesday afternoon. Hood said that Microsoft expects fiscal third-quarter revenue of $48.5 billion to $49.3 billion, topping the average analyst expectation of $48.11 billion, according to FactSet, and revenue guidance for each of the three revenue segments met or beat analysts’ average expectations.


Amy Hood, Microsoft's finance chief, said the company is expecting $48.5 billion to 49.3 billion in revenue in the fiscal third quarter, topping the $48.23 billion Refinitiv consensus. The middle of the range, at $48.9 billion, is above the $48.23 billion Refinitiv consensus. Hood said the company now expects full-year operating margins to widen slightly
 

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From some articles:

Shares fell more than 5% in after-hours trading following the release of the results, but reversed to a gain of more than 1% after Chief Financial Officer Amy Hood shared Microsoft’s forecast in a conference call Tuesday afternoon. Hood said that Microsoft expects fiscal third-quarter revenue of $48.5 billion to $49.3 billion, topping the average analyst expectation of $48.11 billion, according to FactSet, and revenue guidance for each of the three revenue segments met or beat analysts’ average expectations.


Amy Hood, Microsoft's finance chief, said the company is expecting $48.5 billion to 49.3 billion in revenue in the fiscal third quarter, topping the $48.23 billion Refinitiv consensus. The middle of the range, at $48.9 billion, is above the $48.23 billion Refinitiv consensus. Hood said the company now expects full-year operating margins to widen slightly
MSFT with the (my top holding across all accounts - funds, etfs, stocks):