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T2Kplus20

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Treasury bills, notes, bonds.... May be looking at a "generational opportunity.". Ten-year notes could approach 6% by 2Q24, maybe higher. And with the possibility of persistent inflation, TIPS also increasingly attractive.

How many of you hold or are building positions in Treasuries?
WOLF a good time to buy now?

I bought TLT leap calls yesterday, up 6% today!
 

RUinPinehurst

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For you old people looking for fixed income funds/etfs, DODIX is one of the best options out there.
"Old people"? Who you calling "old"? LOL. May you live long, peaceably, and prosper.

Not sure about DODIX .41 expense, or its exposure to mortgages, etc. Treasuries. Pure and simple. And no state or local taxes.
 
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RU05

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WOLF a good time to buy now?

I bought TLT leap calls yesterday, up 6% today!
I have INDI which is a similar play, and has also been getting crushed. But I'm holding. Growth has been excellent, and that is expected to continue.

WOLF is not expecting growth until 2025. And not expected to be profitable till 26.

I'm thinking more downside because of that(unless it reports otherwise).
 

T2Kplus20

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I have INDI which is a similar play, and has also been getting crushed. But I'm holding. Growth has been excellent, and that is expected to continue.

WOLF is not expecting growth until 2025. And not expected to be profitable till 26.

I'm thinking more downside because of that(unless it reports otherwise).
INTC with a great quarter (surprise). ENPH **** the bed (not surprising) so maybe they will drop to a buyable bottom now?

As for INDI and WOLF, I like them both, but as you point out, INDI should become profitable next year. I wonder how the LEAP calls look for both stocks?
 
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INTC with a great quarter (surprise). ENPH **** the bed (not surprising) so maybe they will drop to a buyable bottom now?

As for INDI and WOLF, I like them both, but as you point out, INDI should become profitable next year. I wonder how the LEAP calls look for both stocks?
INTC's rev's and EPS are expected to hit their bottom in 2023, then take off from here, especially EPS.
 
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T2Kplus20

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I have similar problem
As someone else above mentioned...treasuries at 6% are starting to look really good.
They are going to look like garage when the market rips back to all-time highs. Be very careful. Making 6% is very different than +20-30% in a few months. Think the first 7 months of this year.

Treasuries are not investing, it's giving up.
 

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INTC's rev's and EPS are expected to hit their bottom in 2023, then take off from here, especially EPS.
They did a lot of work to turn around the Titanic (i.e., their business model). LOL! By the way, Ford is putting $12B of EV investments on hold. They just can't afford it.
 

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They did a lot of work to turn around the Titanic (i.e., their business model). LOL! By the way, Ford is putting $12B of EV investments on hold. They just can't afford it.
I think it's more the EV market has quickly flooded.

Saw a Hyundai commercial tonight offering sub 3% financing fof their IONIQ. Something like $350 a month. We know TSLA has cut prices a bunch.
 

RU in IM

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ridiculous. im about fed up. Those 5.75% CDs are looking mighty fine

My son started college in 2008; I’m glad I had ZERO in the market in his college fund when the market crashed. And bank rates were good at the time as the fed moved up rates 425 basis points over a 20 month period between 2004 and 2006.
 
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I missed the Bud Lite-UFC deal from yesterday.

I'm sure Bud paid dearly for this, but if there is a way back into the good graces of Kid Rock's of the world, this is it.

Current P/E of 17x, pretty common to see this trading at a 20x multiple, EPS expected to grow from $3 this year to $3.60 next year.
 

Randal7

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They are going to look like garage when the market rips back to all-time highs. Be very careful. Making 6% is very different than +20-30% in a few months. Think the first 7 months of this year.

Treasuries are not investing, it's giving up.
You must’ve missed the guy who’s put 60k into a 529 and in 6 years it’s made 10 bucks
 

T2Kplus20

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You must’ve missed the guy who’s put 60k into a 529 and in 6 years it’s made 10 bucks
And in the next few years his $60k may double to $120k. Look what happened in March 2009, Dec 2018, March 2020, etc.

Also, that math doesn't work. 6 years? Over the past 6 years, the S&P 500 has returned 63.8%. Even with a correction in 2018, COVID in 2020, bear market in 2022, and now a correction in 2023, these returns CRUSH most other investment options.

Be patient and stay the course.
 
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Good question. My cash is chilling at 5%'ish and can be used anytime I want. Treasuries make no sense.
2 yr treasury is fine if you think rate cuts are coming.

Those delayed declining housing costs should hit the inflation numbers aaaany day now, so lock in those treasuries.

BTW, you’ve said you are fully in, buying every two weeks…now you have cash reserves?
 

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Exxon Mobil 9 billion net revenue

Raise dividend

We’re in the middle of a war in the Middle East metastasizing to a regional conflict

Stock down

Make it make sense!!!!
 

T2Kplus20

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BTW, you’ve said you are fully in, buying every two weeks…now you have cash reserves?
Yes, proceeds from my TQQQ trade and recent company RSU vest. All in my personal/fun account. We have our excess paycheck money on the 2-week automatic contribution to our main brokerage account (E-Trade).
 

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Exxon Mobil 9 billion net revenue

Raise dividend

We’re in the middle of a war in the Middle East metastasizing to a regional conflict

Stock down

Make it make sense!!!!
XOM missed eps estimates. Less the half of last years 3rd qtr eps. Earnings expected to be flat this year to next.

And for as much as it is obvious we are not ready to get completely off oil. We are also seeing EV sales booming.

That said I do own a bunch of oil.
 

RUinPinehurst

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XOM missed eps estimates. Less the half of last years 3rd qtr eps. Earnings expected to be flat this year to next.

And for as much as it is obvious we are not ready to get completely off oil. We are also seeing EV sales booming.

That said I do own a bunch of oil.
XLE. 4.9% div. 11.5 P/E. As of Friday's close.
 

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XOM missed eps estimates. Less the half of last years 3rd qtr eps. Earnings expected to be flat this year to next.

And for as much as it is obvious we are not ready to get completely off oil. We are also seeing EV sales booming.

That said I do own a bunch of oil.
… all that was priced in. We knew that. They are gonna do $9b+ net every quarter until something dramatically changes in geopolitics
 

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XOM missed eps estimates. Less the half of last years 3rd qtr eps. Earnings expected to be flat this year to next.

And for as much as it is obvious we are not ready to get completely off oil. We are also seeing EV sales booming.

That said I do own a bunch of oil.
Comparing an oil company to 2022 earnings (Putin) is like comparing Pfizer to their earnings at the height of COVID vaccinations. It really doesn't make sense.
 
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Comparing an oil company to 2022 earnings (Putin) is like comparing Pfizer to their earnings at the height of COVID vaccinations. It really doesn't make sense.
Raleigh news reporting this morning that PFE is closing two production facilities in NC.
 

T2Kplus20

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Raleigh news reporting this morning that PFE is closing two production facilities in NC.
Makes sense, the volume of COVID vaccinations going forward will be similar to FLU shots. Nothing wrong with that, just reality.

By the way, been reading up on WOLF quite a bit. Will likely start a position on Monday, unless there is a big pop back over $30.
 
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… all that was priced in. We knew that. They are gonna do $9b+ net every quarter until something dramatically changes in geopolitics
Missing estimates was not priced in. The other stuff is why it sells at such a low multiple.