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rutgersdave

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Seems pretty extreme coming off a 10% week.

But his call was 15-20% on Monday. Happens a lot he said.
Well, the people selling felt the market fell 15-20%. I also don’t trade on S & P most of my trade are tech stocks. They are already down. 30% and I m waiting for 40-50% down.

Maybe I wish the market went down 20% tomorrow so I don’t have to wait to buy more stocks. It will be an easier decision to buy tomorrow.
 

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Crypto typically a leading indicator heading into next days antics.
I expect another day that’s down big
 

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I don't think it is about a country buying more per say, but rather removing their tariffs and having their large companies investing in the US (which TSM is already doing). Also, I'm sure Tawian would be happy to increase they purchasing of military equipment.
My wild-assed guess is that, if we, America, shows some tolerance for pain with these tarriffs the rest of the world will give us deals that are more fair and we can back off. That would be a huge plus for the future. I also think the rest of teh world will just then wait until the next weak/corrupt/stupid president and hammer him/her for concessions.
 

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Lutnick changing his tune. He was quite the tariff hawk on Friday:

The social media post fueled global debate over whether Trump's tariffs were part of a permanent new tariff regime or simply a negotiating tactic that could lead to the tariffs being eased through concessions by other countries.

Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick suggested on CBS News' 'Face the Nation' that they could be the latter, saying the tariffs would remain in place "for days and weeks."

 
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Not really trading. I’m buying every two weeks right now on schedule. It may go lower, in the future it will be higher.
DCA'ing is always the best idea. I have been trading futures with my COIN account. I've done really well with SOL and GLD (as mentioned above). Looking to get back into SOL contracts once the market opens at 6pm.
 

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My wild-assed guess is that, if we, America, shows some tolerance for pain with these tarriffs the rest of the world will give us deals that are more fair and we can back off. That would be a huge plus for the future. I also think the rest of teh world will just then wait until the next weak/corrupt/stupid president and hammer him/her for concessions.
I haven’t call my congressman lately so I’m fine with the pain but it’s affecting the lower classes. It’s not affecting people that have money trading stocks and crypto.

You needed to go to one of the Hand Off protest and debate/ convince a few of them.
 
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My wild-assed guess is that, if we, America, shows some tolerance for pain with these tarriffs the rest of the world will give us deals that are more fair and we can back off. That would be a huge plus for the future. I also think the rest of teh world will just then wait until the next weak/corrupt/stupid president and hammer him/her for concessions.
I thought we were not supposed to post comments about politics
 

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There is no stagflation and there isn't any remote evidence that any is coming soon. Not just my opinion, also Powell's.

Stagflation = irrational fear
You still want to go with that answer - or do u wanna wait for another 3000 point drop.

And for the record, Powell said that Tarriffs are inflationary and they will be watching intently for signs of new inflation but thankfully the economy ( backwards looking) was still growing

The markets are dropping over recession fears combined with inflation caused by the Tarriffs

It's that simple
 
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You still want to go with that answer - or do u wanna wait for another 3000 point drop.

And for the record, Powell said that Tarriffs are inflationary and they will be watching intently for signs of new inflation but thankfully the economy ( backwards looking) was still growing

The markets are dropping over recession fears combined with inflation caused by the Tarriffs

It's that simple
Is it capitulation yet, tomorrow? You are in the know
 

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You still want to go with that answer - or do u wanna wait for another 3000 point drop.

And for the record, Powell said that Tarriffs are inflationary and they will be watching intently for signs of new inflation but thankfully the economy ( backwards looking) was still growing

The markets are dropping over recession fears combined with inflation caused by the Tarriffs

It's that simple
There is no stag or inflation as of now. Fear is not reality (and events can change on a dime). Check back in a few months.
 

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Lutnick changing his tune. He was quite the tariff hawk on Friday:

The social media post fueled global debate over whether Trump's tariffs were part of a permanent new tariff regime or simply a negotiating tactic that could lead to the tariffs being eased through concessions by other countries.

Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick suggested on CBS News' 'Face the Nation' that they could be the latter, saying the tariffs would remain in place "for days and weeks."

Its excellent strategy
 

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Black Monday was trending on X earlier. On Reddit they think the world is ending tomorrow.
 

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There is no stag or inflation as of now. Fear is not reality (and events can change on a dime). Check back in a few months.
The job of the market is to be 9 months ahead. Back in 2020 when the death count was at it highest, the market started ripping higher based on growth thru all the stimulus

Right now, if tarriffs remain in place, prices go up 10% or more, Fed can't cut, consumer confidence plunges and at a minimum, capital spending gets put on gold, at a maximum, unemployment starts ramping up whuch combined with inflation equals stagflation

My initial post on Wednesday said we easily drop a few thousand points. While I don't see a crash like Cramer, nothing has broken yet in the financial system and likely a lot of back room negotiating happening

Any headline of Canada, Mexico or the EU agreeing to lower Tarriffs easily re- gains Fridays losses
 

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Black Monday was trending on X earlier. On Reddit they think the world is ending tomorrow.

Looks more like a pretty standard BTC mini selloff then a crash, down 4.5% in the last 24 hours, which again for BTC is not a big deal. Currently $79K, was as low as $76 a month ago.

Now if it's hanging around $70K by the time the stock market opens tomorrow that is probably a bad omen.
 

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The job of the market is to be 9 months ahead. Back in 2020 when the death count was at it highest, the market started ripping higher based on growth thru all the stimulus

Right now, if tarriffs remain in place, prices go up 10% or more, Fed can't cut, consumer confidence plunges and at a minimum, capital spending gets put on gold, at a maximum, unemployment starts ramping up whuch combined with inflation equals stagflation

My initial post on Wednesday said we easily drop a few thousand points. While I don't see a crash like Cramer, nothing has broken yet in the financial system and likely a lot of back room negotiating happening

Any headline of Canada, Mexico or the EU agreeing to lower Tarriffs easily re- gains Fridays losses
Honestly, I think stagflation is the wrong call with either possibility. If there are successful negotiations in short term, we will be fine - economy and market. If these tariffs stay in place long term, we will have a legit recession/depression! I believe the definition of stagflation includes low economic growth, but growth nonetheless. Is that correct?

Regardless, we agree that this level of tariffs is bad news. And I appreciate your POV.

Hoping for the best. Trump’s team seemed rattled this morning and kept highlighting how many nations want to negotiate. Maybe a good sign?
 
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Black Monday was trending on X earlier. On Reddit they think the world is ending tomorrow.

BTW, this was a relatively modest dip for such liquidations. I’ve been playing around with SOL futures and you have to be very irresponsible to get washed out by a 5-6% drop. Good grief.
 

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Max FUD on social media. The average account thinks the Dow is going to 5k and the military will remove the president from power by 4/20 lol.

Actually the more irrational FUD there is, the quicker the snapback rally will happen.
 

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Max FUD on social media. The average account thinks the Dow is going to 5k and the military will remove the president from power by 4/20 lol.

Actually the more irrational FUD there is, the quicker the snapback rally will happen.
You didn’t get the 4/20 joke. Musk gets it.
 
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Max FUD on social media. The average account thinks the Dow is going to 5k and the military will remove the president from power by 4/20 lol.

Actually the more irrational FUD there is, the quicker the snapback rally will happen.
People are funny. Always entertaining!
 
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Placed limit orders AMZN $150, O $50, PRU $80, CVX $130, CRM $212, FRT $85, AMCR $8.8

They are low but might hit this week. The market could free fall and hit some. My patriotic duty to buy stocks. I already own most of these stocks.

Take advantage of people emotions.
 
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TA and support are irrelevant in these times. Only policy and events matter. News/details will be changing every day, perhaps every few hours. We are one tweet away from a face-ripping rally back to ATHs and one tweet away from even worse chaos. Enjoy! :)

And as per that news, Trump officials talking tough this morning on the various shows, but everyone is touting that 50 countries have called to negotiate. So.....the process is ongoing.
Agree technicals are not controlling the narrative here. This is a fundamental change in how the economy works.
 

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My wild-assed guess is that, if we, America, shows some tolerance for pain with these tarriffs the rest of the world will give us deals that are more fair and we can back off. That would be a huge plus for the future. I also think the rest of teh world will just then wait until the next weak/corrupt/stupid president and hammer him/her for concessions.

That’s all well and good. However there is no guarantee that the other side of the trade war scenario is going to result in a booming economy.
 

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Agree technicals are not controlling the narrative here. This is a fundamental change in how the economy works.
Are you looking at any particular areas or sub-sectors for buying? There are plenty of companies that don't seem to be directly impacted by tariffs.