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OT: Stock and Investment Thread
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It’s wild that this even need said. Literally no reason to punish smaller countries who are not capable of buying as much from us as we buy from them. Not to mention artificially/arbitrarily trying to force countries into equal buying from each other is as big government as it gets.
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FWIW it appears the overnight bond action was due to forced liquidation rather than China or someone else voluntarily dumping US equities as a retaliatory move, which is a good thing.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/09/tre...wall-street-grew-wealthier-for-4-decades.html
Wondering if this is the quiet part out loud? Idk how killing the US Stock Market is supposed to benefit Main Street though? What is Main Street supposed to sell if everyone is broke, and costs are out of control with US manufacturing at bare minimum not there yet?
Wondering if this is the quiet part out loud? Idk how killing the US Stock Market is supposed to benefit Main Street though? What is Main Street supposed to sell if everyone is broke, and costs are out of control with US manufacturing at bare minimum not there yet?
You really think it’s going to take 6-8 years to get back to where we were 10 days ago?
The facilities are there to bring a good chunk on manufacturing back to the US. Curious if that actually happens or if there is more of a shift to somewhere like Ireland who is seen as a more stable partner
25% of raw materials from US pharma products comes from China alone. India and Ireland are 2 other big players for manufacturing. My experience is more on the drug pricing side, not sourcing and supply chain so I am curious how shifting the raw material sourcing impacts things downstream and if that would cause shortages. It's also unclear how tariffs would be implemented. Just on raw materials, APIs, finished products, etc.?
If this become 2008 yes, look at the chart during 2008. I wish it’s going to be a V curve but I don’t expect it. It will come back but expect a longer period. I want to make money so if it’s a V curve I make it back in a year. I still think we go lower than today, it’s not over.
If it’s going to be a V curve, why aren’t the people with cash buying stocks? There are about 3-5 on this board that moved to cash before the crash.
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I despise muni and bond funds in general. Much better off holding the actual muni bond
Recession in 2001 and between 2007-2009 took 5.5 years. The recession in 2020, S&P recovered in less than a year.
Ok dave, you sure your brother isn't the make-believe Tom Hanks character on SNL wearing a red hat lol? You said "luckily" he bought an annuity-so again what kind of annuity? Why were returns terrible?
How many more times will you edit your post to make your fish story bigger and bigger?
Correction, two years. ATHs by September 1989.
Not the stock market, took two years and much was recovered more quickly than that. And there really was not a recession after the ‘87 crash.
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Just look at the charts. I made a mistake it wasn’t 1987 but the 2000 dot.com bubble.
If every crash took 1-3 years to get back to the point before the crash, why would anyone have to worry about having a huge % in stocks when they are in their 60’s? Possibility of taking 10 years to get back.
Guess you never heard about sequence of returns risk. Not surprising. Maybe ask your brother if his annuity addresses this risk.
I don’t care, you hope the downturn stops while I hope for another 20% drop so I can keep buying at lower prices. I also want the market to come back in 1-3 years but not as much as a few on this board.
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Ok dave. But what about your brother's annuity? Is he still lucky he bought it 2 years ago? Why or why not?
He has a steady income plus his social security which is good for him. Maybe 5-6 years ago.
2008 happened because of sub prime issues. We had strippers owning 7 houses. There were fundamental Issues. This is not that. This is Trump Sabre rattling. One of two things will happen. Countries will fold or they won’t. Either way it will work its way out and everything will go back to normal. By Fourth of July people will be arguing about price of hot dogs between the two administrations
Hey I wish it’s a V curve but most of the people on this board don’t believe that except T2K. We can only hope.
Oh he's working while collecting SS? Interesting.
So back his annuity, you said he bought the annuity a couple years ago (not 5-6) and he was lucky he did. Tell us more about this lucky annuity he bought with the "terrible returns".
He’s retired. Stop this nonsense. You lost a lot of money in the stock market. Should have moved some to cash. At least Pakk89 was smarter than you. Can you sleep at night with the losses?
If you say so dave. Is his annuity providing him steady income? You seem to know a lot about his financial circumstances, so you must know why his annuity purchase was so "lucky" with terrible returns. C'mon stop dodging dave.
You’re in the business and you didn’t think the market was overpriced? Lol , I wouldn’t want you working for me.
His purchase was lucky because he would have been fully invested in the market like you.
My retirement portfolio allocation is fine for my time horizon. But maybe I could use an annuity like your brother's, so please tell me more about it. Did he buy it at the lows in both stocks and bonds re: 2022? Thanks
While I was unfortunately overweight cash for the last several years, and missed out on robust gains, I am taking a sizable beating in 2025. The market humbles people. And that very much includes myself.
Says the always perfect market-timing Warren Buffett of the RU Free Boards lol. Nobody believes your b.s.
HAHAHAHA another post edit from daveBuffet. So what is his annuity invested in?
Jtung230, RUinpinehurst, RUrahrah, I’m inM moved to cash so it really wasn’t a secret the market was overpriced and Trump talking about tariffs.
You came to this thread afraid there was going to be negative talk about ————-. You going to ban me or have me deported? Lol
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