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OT: Tick Bite from Lonestar Tick link to warming climate
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Students will now be educated on tick borne diseases:
One woman's story scary as i live in Monmouth Cty.
wow... that read like..
...but these days? Would you put it past these lunatics to breed those ticks and release them? (I sure hope that is just too crazy and idea)
Married 43 years been together 48 years, I know exactly what your saying. Difference here is we both had the 2 original shots, last one in March 2021. Looked around, saw it wasn't stopping vaccinated from getting and spreading Covid and said NEVER again. F*ck Fauci. On a side note, both of us took the antibody test 4 months after our 2nd vaccine. My antibody was 99, my wife's was 2500+, considered at the time to be a "super blood donor" if she chose to do so. Then 3 months later, she caught Covid first, and 8 days later I caught it. So much for another ******** scam of being a "super Blood donor", lmfao.
Not trying to argue with you because I generally agree with your sports-related posts, but these vaccines were never meant to completely block or prevent the virus. Just to mitigate the worst effects and hopefully prevent death. This goes for the annual flu vaccine as well. I don’t understand why people ever thought otherwise.
Because I believe we were misledSeriously stupid for an old timer.
But **** Fauci, I guess?
Because we were being told that every night. you know that's true, just saying.Stop the spread was the tagline on CNN/MSNBC. We both took the 1st 2 vaccines to make sure we wouldn't spread Covid to at the time our 3 year old Granddaughter and pregnant Daughter in Law.
That's not how they were originally marketed or pushed. The narrative changed as the doses mounted. I had no problem taking it, just didn't like how all that went.
Honestly, I have to respectfully disagree. I never saw it pushed that way initially at all. And let’s face it, who would ever guarantee that something is a cure all? It never happens.
Than you weren't paying attention. It was take Moderna two doses and it's 80% to 90% effective that you will not catch Covid or spread it. That narrative then changed to well you can still catch Covid but it won't be as severe and you can still spread it. Then two doses weren't enough and you need a booster. I stopped at two.
Not a changing narrative so much as changing virus and results. It was never 100 percent.
The lessening of severity remains the key, especially for older folks.
The vaccine wasn't even 80%-90% effective against not catching or spreading it as it was originally touted by the Government and Health Professionals. Anyone who took it, could still get Covid, the effects just wouldn't be as severe. That's when they had to back track off the original claims. Because people took it and were still getting it and still spreading it. So, no I don't agree with your statement.
Your post makes it sound like you took the Vax and Booster because of what CNN and MSNBC told you. Did not take you for an avid watcher of those networks.
Okay, that’s cool. I still think you’re not grasping the point about vaccines. Again, no one ever stated that these vaccines were a panacea for everything.
So then why were they so heavily mandated to the point of firing health care workers, nurses, firefighters, police, EMS workers, even when they had acquired immunity and health care officials absolutely knew the benefits of acquired immunity? A bit of a different question, but says a lot about how f'd up some people were to the point of making the vaccines religion. Our own alma mater is still unnecessarily forcing them on students to the point of expulsion, when they are not needed for young people. Really strange.
yes, glad you see it. These people went all out like it was religion. Fear mongering, worship. Fauci devotion candles. Were you watching, or blindly following?
Exactly.
I honestly watch a variety of networks or listen as I walk. I really do try to see it from both sides but have become amused by how hard the left doesn't allow any push back what so ever.I'd respect them more if just once when something goes wrong they don't blame a person who hasn't had any control for 2.5 years. Just once without hearing well "Trump did this or Trump did that", could I instead hear,"we f*cked up and will get it right next time". Now next you will say something along the lines of, "but Trump would never admit he was wrong", am I right? Then let Biden's handlers prove their above that, their better than that. Been waiting 2.5 years for that amid a host of mistakes, not once, not from Biden the administration, or the talking heads from mainstream media.
Then don't call them vaccines. If the Polio Vaccines operated like the Covid vaccines we'd have billions of people walking around in leg braces. They aren't vaccines, just flu shots.
I just got bit by a spider, now I have this weird tingly sense when someone comes up behind me. My muscles also seem more defined. But no rash thank goodness.
Obviously, I don't.
No idea wtf you're on about, honestly, but I'm sure bac and Co relate.
IDK why you are bringing them into it. People can have differences of opinion on these things and have civil discussions. To many MDs, PhDs, etc, who were vilified and demonized by the minions in the CDC and Fauci the fraud, it was clear it became a near religion to a lot of people with the fear mongering, false information and suppression of data and information. This continued even after it was clear the vaccine did not stop transmission. The ramrodding and heavy handed tactics continued.
They have a new "vaccine" in the works.
Viruses aren't living things and bacteria are.
So they want to make a bactericide will go from a person's body into the tick and kill the bacteria in the tick. How toxic does that juice sound ?
Only drug/biotech I still kinda-sorta trust is Regeneron.
They are local and Co-founder George Yancopoulos is a good guy.
Overall, Big Pharma's execs, gov regulators and researchers are all wearing the same hats in a round robin.
Regulatory has been merged with the makers. They will actually make studies they know will fail so they can polish their own juice
EU
"At a meeting of the Special Committee held on 11 October to discuss the findings regarding COVID-19 pandemic and recommendations for the future, a Pfizer executive confirmed that the vaccine had never been tested for its ability to prevent the transmission of COVID before being put on the market. Data emerging since the introduction of the vaccine indicates that it is in fact unable to do so, thereby refuting the claim that the COVID-19 Digital Passport provides any guarantee of protection."
I'm a bit unclear what you are seeking. The vaccine was mass produced in 2020 via Operation Warp speed so it bridged 2 Presidents. Also, it's nice you want a politician to admit they were wrong......but unfortunately that's does not seem the society we live in on all sides. Consider this board alone.....how many posters have you seen admit they are wrong or apologize for being wrong? The list is very short.....even anonymously. How many people do you see attacking a politician's lack of strengh or resolve for admission of being wrong? How many people are called "beta" for apologizing.
I agree that admission of being wrong and the ability to try and correct by changing course would no only be refreshing but is actually a good quality for a leader. Unfortunatley this society seems to have no appetite for it across the board.
Because it's exactly the kind of hyperbolic rhetoric they use ...and you tend speak out against.
No religion ...it was the best-available solution at a time everyone was fatigued from a once-a-lifetime pandemic. Did businesses not have the right and impetus to protect their workspace and interests as they saw fit?
You missed the part where it was clear early on that the vaccine did not stop transmission. And it was not the "best available" solution when it was well known that acquired immunity through previous infection was superior and more durable than the vaccine. Private businesses can do whatever they want. Goverments? Firing public safety and health workers? Shame. Our workplace did not mandate it.
Protocols were changed in massive ways
With Warp Speed as originally implemented, the jabs were meant for only the elderly and people with serious health conditions that might make a case of CV-19 lethal.
Everyone else was supposed to get a therapeutic.
CV-19 was remarkably stratified - most people had no worries.
In fact, unvaccinated children being exposed to the virus was a huge lever for herd immunity
The WarpS legal exemptions were specifically conbstructed to make viable therapeutics the first option.
THAT is why the new hive went way out of their way to demonize therapeutics.
If they worked then the vaccine was on the shelf and less $$$
People were suppossed to be treated quickly when symptoms emerged.
Yet hospitals told people to go home and come back if they got worse.
People got worse and became hard cases - ended-up on ventilators when they didn't need to.
I knew a guy in quaratine who after 2 weeks was getting worse
His MD said "no" to HQ.
My said hje wanted the HQ and he was better and home in a few days
So getting sick was the best solution to not get sick?
That's a negative. Vax absolutely was the best solution for all those who preferred not to get Covid. Which was basically everyone ... all those herd immunity bros balked when challenged to go get it and help their own cause. "But I dont like the flu, either." Cowardly hypocrites.
I don't know whether you are being purposefully obtuse or not understanding what I said.
There were people who had evidence that they already were infected and recovered, yet they were being forced to get the vaccine, when it was known that the immunity was at least equal to (and a lot of data pointed to superior to) the vaccine. Fauci himself had said that this was well known with a lot of viruses. But this did not stop the pressure campaign.
Your second paragraph is being divisive with the "bros" language. Herd immunity was actually valid.
I'm done on this, and fine that we do not agree on this point. Nothing to go to war on. Just two different perspectives. Get ready for the 14 page treatise coming from you know who. Just hope he doesn't cite Peter Hotez. I have never understood the political divide on this. It boils down to a personal health choice at this point.
Perhaps you're now saying something you didn't say before and expecting inferred? Because don't recall you pinpointing those who had already had it in railing on general vaccine mandates, which I'm ambivalent about at this point.
With that in mind, no need to continue since we're traveling into the past just to debate. Glad we're here, not there.
That is as good a response to any post I have ever seen on this board. Regardless of one's political position, that was well thought out and I have nothing negative to say.