OT: Tiger woods arrested

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The thing about Tyson, they may've been bums, but he was murdering them. Fight after fight never got to a 2nd round. I fully expected to see him actually kill someone in the ring. I've not watched a boxing match since he retired.
 
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Aike

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Code for contra. Up down up down left right left right B A select start. Let's cover all of it while we are at it.

We had to get the Nintendo magazine back then to know anything. But word got around FAST.

Who needs the internet?
 
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The thing about Tyson, they may've been bums, but he was murdering them. Fight after fight never got to a 2nd round. I fully expected to see him actually kill someone in the ring. I've not watched a boxing match since he retired.

'13 Kentucky was murdering Sand State, doesn't mean anything. He fought trash and had his *** handed to him when he didn't.
 
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Mike-D

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Reason why Tyson was so good for the sport was that he didn't go in the ring every fight to out box his opponent to win a score card. He went in there to knock mother f#%#ers out, and in epic fashion. Dude was throwing around 2 sledge hammers, and when you've got that kinda power it only takes 1 punch to put mofo's to sleep.
 
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I'll tell everyone who fell from greatness more than tiger or Tyson....

Zack Morris.

Reached huge fame in the late 80's early 90's. Was on every teen girls wall, went to college years and fell off completely. In walked Jonathan Taylor Thomas and Zack Ended up a side show on law and order.

That's a fall if there ever was one.

Corey Haim. Some of my favorite movies in my childhood - License to Drive, Dream a Little Dream, Lucas, Lost Boys. Dude was the man. Dated Alyssa Milano. Then, overdose and dead with zero money and zero friends. That's a fall there boys.
 
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Corey Haim. Some of my favorite movies in my childhood - License to Drive, Dream a Little Dream, Lucas, Lost Boys. Dude was the man. Dated Alyssa Milano. Then, overdose and dead with zero money and zero friends. That's a fall there boys.

My girlfriend Is obsessed with "the Corey's".

Haims nose destroyed his career.
 

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Speaking of great boxers, Floyd Mayweather. Watch him win a score card for 12 rounds, or watch people get knocked out? There is a reason that sport is terrible now.

I will never deny watching Tyson eat 10 year olds for a decade was fun.
 
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kyjeff1

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The rumors have been around for years. He was definitely linked to a well-known PED doc.

It can be blurry at times between what constitutes legitimate, legal, cutting edge treatment, and what crosses the line.

Another golfer (name escapes me) said in a radio interview a few years ago that Tiger was suspended for PEDs. PGA Tour denied it. Golfer retracted.

Lot of smoke, but who knows? Guy was definitely an amazing golfer long before PEDs were even hinted at. He also won the U. S. Open with a broken leg. Could that have been aided by some substance?

If the PED stuff is true, the irony would be that he could have actually cut his career short and prevented himself from breaking all the records by powering through pain and injury with performance enhancers.
It's just a matter of time before they are saying Dustin Johnson is on PED's too, when you hit a golf ball 365 yards consistently people are going to assume you HAVE to be taking something.
Until Tiger tests positive I think it's nothing more than jealousness on the part of those saying he takes/took PED's. There are a couple in this thread that posted it like they knew it for a fact.
 

Aike

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It's just a matter of time before they are saying Dustin Johnson is on PED's too, when you hit a golf ball 365 yards consistently people are going to assume you HAVE to be taking something.
Until Tiger tests positive I think it's nothing more than jealousness on the part of those saying he takes/took PED's. There are a couple in this thread that posted it like they knew it for a fact.

Yeah, it's not proven, and I would never state it as such. But there was the same kind of smoke around Tiger as some of the baseball guys, with some of the same characters involved.

So I won't discount it as a possibility, even though I'd prefer to believe it isn't true.
 

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Tiger a fraud? wtf?

Tiger at his best was untouchable.

Tyson at his prime still lost to a midget.
Tiger was no doubt one of greatest golfers in the history of the sport. That being said, I don't think he faced the same level of competition over his career as Jack did. Being untouchable was a product of his talent, but also a product of a not historically great competition.
 

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It's just a matter of time before they are saying Dustin Johnson is on PED's too, when you hit a golf ball 365 yards consistently people are going to assume you HAVE to be taking something.
Until Tiger tests positive I think it's nothing more than jealousness on the part of those saying he takes/took PED's. There are a couple in this thread that posted it like they knew it for a fact.
It's pretty well known.
There were payments by him to a doctor that was convicted of selling peds.

Tiger also went from a 25 year old string bean, to a 26 year old muscle bound dude, pretty much overnight.

Get your head out of his ***, and use your brain. He was cheating!
 

Aike

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Back on TW...TMZ says he was driving erratically (insert Tiger golf joke) and acting arrogant (uh, duh). Refused a breathalyzer so automatic arrest.

Said they smelled alcohol too. Probably did, but they would say they did no matter what under the circumstances.

Allegedly his camp has been calling the cops asking if the arresting officer was wearing a body cam.
 

Mike-D

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Back on TW...TMZ says he was driving erratically (insert Tiger golf joke) and acting arrogant (uh, duh). Refused a breathalyzer so automatic arrest.

Said they smelled alcohol too. Probably did, but they would say they did no matter what under the circumstances.

Allegedly his camp has been calling the cops asking if the arresting officer was wearing a body cam.

Derailed the thread, trying to lift the train back on the tracks single handedly.
 
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kyjeff1

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Tiger was no doubt one of greatest golfers in the history of the sport. That being said, I don't think he faced the same level of competition over his career as Jack did. Being untouchable was a product of his talent, but also a product of a not historically great competition.
Can't agree with that at all.

No doubt, Jack is great, greatest of all time in fact, but the game has grown by a tremendous amount since Jack's time.

The equipment, training, amount of competitors and analytics are far better now (90's through today) than it was in the 60's through the 80's.

What that means is Tiger had more to work with, but so did his competitors.

These kids are in shape now and their training is extensive.

Give these kids a wooden driver and they would do wonders with it.

The swing speeds with the driver and long irons and touch with the short irons and flat stick in today's game is far greater than it was in the 60's and 70's.

Tiger is to be credited with where golf is right now to some degree.
 
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kyjeff1

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It's pretty well known.
There were payments by him to a doctor that was convicted of selling peds.

Tiger also went from a 25 year old string bean, to a 26 year old muscle bound dude, pretty much overnight.

Get your head out of his ***, and use your brain. He was cheating!
LOL, so he was treated by a doctor, like thousands of other athletes, that was found to have supplied PED's to some athletes, so that means he had to be taking them too… .and I'm the one that has to extract my head from something?

I'm not a groupie, but I'm also not someone that throws around accusations without proof. If you want to do that then have at it hoss.
 
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Can't agree with that at all.

No doubt, Jack is great, greatest of all time in fact, but the game has grown by a tremendous amount since Jack's time.

The equipment, training, amount of competitors and analytics are far better now (90's through today) than it was in the 60's through the 80's.

What that means is Tiger had more to work with, but so did his competitors.

These kids are in shape now and their training is extensive.

Give these kids a wooden driver and they would do wonders with it.

The swing speeds with the driver and long irons and touch with the short irons and flat stick in today's game is far greater than it was in the 60's and 70's.

Tiger is to be credited with where golf is right now to some degree.

Excellent post. Golf is as competitive as it is today because of tiger. It cannot be denied. He changed the culture of the entire sport, and I'm no fan.
 

morgousky

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LOL, so he was treated by a doctor, like thousands of other athletes, that was found to have supplied PED's to some athletes, so that means he had to be taking them too… .and I'm the one that has to extract my head from something?

I'm not a groupie, but I'm also not someone that throws around accusations without proof. If you want to do that then have at it hoss.

I have no proof tiger was on PED's, but I see no way he wasn't. The evidence is just too thick, not to mention his body size in a very short period of time.
 

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I have no proof tiger was on PED's, but I see no way he wasn't. The evidence is just too thick, not to mention his body size in a very short period of time.

He was. Still doesn't change anything to me. He revolutionized the game. Growing up, I never played golf. I still had every Tiger Woods PGA tour game, and watched anytime he was on tv. EA Sports probably made a trillion dollars off that game.
 

morgousky

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So, since we're on this topic....

Why not just let athletes use PED's if they want?

Contrary to popular opinion, PED's aren't going to turn a bad athlete into a great one. The work is still going to be the reason for the success. It gives them a slight edge due to sheer strength, but if they're all doing it, isn't it the same thing, just a better product?

Also, when will the PED NFL scandal break? I bet it's tough to find one of those players that's clean. The NFL has been allowing it for decades.
 

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No sobering 9 iron to his noggin no care.

 

morgousky

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He was. Still doesn't change anything to me. He revolutionized the game. Growing up, I never played golf. I still had every Tiger Woods PGA tour game, and watched anytime he was on tv. EA Sports probably made a trillion dollars off that game.

I feel the same. Tiger made golf a "cool" and popular sport, regardless.
 
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Can't agree with that at all.

No doubt, Jack is great, greatest of all time in fact, but the game has grown by a tremendous amount since Jack's time.

The equipment, training, amount of competitors and analytics are far better now (90's through today) than it was in the 60's through the 80's.

What that means is Tiger had more to work with, but so did his competitors.

These kids are in shape now and their training is extensive.

Give these kids a wooden driver and they would do wonders with it.

The swing speeds with the driver and long irons and touch with the short irons and flat stick in today's game is far greater than it was in the 60's and 70's.

Tiger is to be credited with where golf is right now to some degree.
Just because the game has changed doesn't mean that Tiger played against very many historically great players. Think about what you just said. The equipment is better, the training is better, the analytics are better, but Tiger's period didn't produce hardly anything in terms of historically great players. Aside from Tiger himself and Phil, there isn't much to talk about. However, if you look at Jack's competition, you have Palmer, Player, Trevino, Watson, Miller, etc. My comment has nothing to do with with how golf has evolved, it's about the relative competition when they both played. Jack played against a lot of historically great players. Tiger, not so much. It just highlights in my mind how good Jack really was. To win the number of majors he won against the kind of competition he faced is remarkable.
 

uky8unc5

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I am Jack's #1 fan. Tiger vs Jack in prime would have been awesome. And is a toss up.

Jack played with crap equipment/balls. Both won because they were long off the tee and fearless. And they were best on green under pressure.

Masters is played on same course today (though longer today). Check their stats. Toss up.
 

uky8unc5

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Just because the game has changed doesn't mean that Tiger played against very many historically great players. Think about what you just said. The equipment is better, the training is better, the analytics are better, but Tiger's period didn't produce hardly anything in terms of historically great players. Aside from Tiger himself and Phil, there isn't much to talk about. However, if you look at Jack's competition, you have Palmer, Player, Trevino, Watson, Miller, etc. My comment has nothing to do with with how golf has evolved, it's about the relative competition when they both played. Jack played against a lot of historically great players. Tiger, not so much. It just highlights in my mind how good Jack really was. To win the number of majors he won against the kind of competition he faced is remarkable.
One addendum: Europe tour was crap in Jack's day. Ryder Cup was a laugher. So the world's talent is double tough today.