Parking issues @State

johnson86-1

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What I was told was they sold 1 permit per space this year whereas last year it was 6 permits per. That’s a huge reduction. Seems foolhardy. (Edit: 6 is way too many!)

But they’ve been working toward making central campus pedestrian only for 20 years. Just one step closer. Hopefully the shuttle system is better than it was in the 00’s.
It's actually been at least a little bit longer than that. Education is always going to attract the type of people that dream about car free living whjile ignoring path dependency. Doesn't help that there isn't an easy way to import 16k people a day onto a campus in a town where there isn't real public transit, so you end up with bad and impractical ideas being entertained because there don't seem to be good options (other than the really expensive one of scattering multi-story parking garages around campus)
 

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Sources have different calculations.

The Reflector says it was 1.6 permits per space. (https://reflector-online.com/34805/...pricing-and-permits-ahead-of-new-school-year/)
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This Mississippi Today video says it was 1:6 parking spot to student ratio. ()
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1.6 makes waaaay more sense. That would mean they reduced supply by roughly 1/3. If they do intend to release more after classes start, then this could ultimately be much ado about very little (depending on how many extra they release).
 

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I'd hate to be this guy, the jokes write themselves

Jeremiah Dumas, the executive director of MSU’s Parking and Transit Services
 
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Staff is pretty P.O.'d about the changes too. In the past they could park in any staff lot but now they are tied to a single lot just like the students. If they feel the need to go to a meeting across campus they have to pay double the cost of their single lot pass to park in any Staff lot
I had a conversation with an athletics dept facilities staffer recently and he mentioned this and how much of a pain it was to them specifically, because they actually do need to go all over the place, for work.
 

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Yep….my son is a senior and lives off campus. Logged on before 8:00 on the designated day and was # 6400+ in the queue. He was not able to get a reserved spot in any lot on campus. He is on the waitlist for 3 different lots and the parking folks told him that spots will open up once classes actually start. Total BS
My granddaughter is an incoming freshman at UGA this fall - maybe next week? She got a spot in a parking garage close to her dorm. State just doesn't have much parking, and I think just one parking garage?
 

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I'm seeing students just blasting the parking changes on campus. Lots of students couldn't get parking. They're saying the school changed policy and it's a mess.

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Require Freshmen to live in dorms and don't allow them to have cars on campus, problem solved.
 
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Want some great entertainment? Join a MSU parent FB page. These moms make it their mission to bulldoze even the most minor problem their kid encounters.

I once heard an AFROTC instructor say, “success is a lousy teacher.” As a society, we’re reaching a point where parents will not let their children fail. Failure teaches a lot of important life lessons and builds resilience.
Sounds like Marine Corps boot camp, no matter how well you did you still got 17d.
 
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As the father of a recent college freshman, I think Mississippi State administration gives them plenty of chances to learn to cope. I have never had a less consistent customer service experience than freshman orientation, housing, enrollment, etc.
My parents never had any customer service experiences when I was a freshman or sophomore or junior or senior or 5th or 6th year!!

So is your freshman coping or are you?
 

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Staff is pretty P.O.'d about the changes too. In the past they could park in any staff lot but now they are tied to a single lot just like the students. If they feel the need to go to a meeting across campus they have to pay double the cost of their single lot pass to park in any Staff lot
Or…. And hear me out. They could 17ing walk.
 
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How involved were you in your kid's registration, etc.? When I think about how that’s changed over the generations it’s kind of incredible. My FIL hitchhiked to State carrying his bag. I loaded up my truck and moved myself in, handled all my registration, housing applications, etc. I moved myself kids in but had nothing to do with their registration, housing applications, etc. I did help them understand and apply for financial aid. I know parents today who are a mess doing literally everything for the kid, and texting them incessantly because they noticed they were somewhere they shouldn’t be or not somewhere they should be because they track them by the minute on Life360…”don’t you have algebra right now?”

ETA: this is not a judgement on how it should/shouldn't be. I find it interesting how much it has changed and I'm thankful i was not inclined to worry myself to death about what mine were doing in college. I knew I had already sunk any chance of a low risk experience via my DNA...
Oh I’m judging.

Get your kids off the tit and let them deal with life lessons early on.
 
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How involved were you in your kid's registration, etc.? When I think about how that’s changed over the generations it’s kind of incredible. My FIL hitchhiked to State carrying his bag. I loaded up my truck and moved myself in, handled all my registration, housing applications, etc. I moved myself kids in but had nothing to do with their registration, housing applications, etc. I did help them understand and apply for financial aid. I know parents today who are a mess doing literally everything for the kid, and texting them incessantly because they noticed they were somewhere they shouldn’t be or not somewhere they should be because they track them by the minute on Life360…”don’t you have algebra right now?”

ETA: this is not a judgement on how it should/shouldn't be. I find it interesting how much it has changed and I'm thankful i was not inclined to worry myself to death about what mine were doing in college. I knew I had already sunk any chance of a low risk experience via my DNA...
My entire time in college my parents never stepped foot on campus, knew where I lived other than the address or helped me move, register or anything else. They did however, pay what they could afford and do without themselves while I was in school for which I was never grateful enough. I can't imagine the chaos if modern students had to visit places in person, pick up paper schedules, read a paper campus map and other horrors of the dark ages.
 
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How involved were you in your kid's registration, etc.? When I think about how that’s changed over the generations it’s kind of incredible. My FIL hitchhiked to State carrying his bag. I loaded up my truck and moved myself in, handled all my registration, housing applications, etc. I moved myself kids in but had nothing to do with their registration, housing applications, etc. I did help them understand and apply for financial aid. I know parents today who are a mess doing literally everything for the kid, and texting them incessantly because they noticed they were somewhere they shouldn’t be or not somewhere they should be because they track them by the minute on Life360…”don’t you have algebra right now?”

ETA: this is not a judgement on how it should/shouldn't be. I find it interesting how much it has changed and I'm thankful i was not inclined to worry myself to death about what mine were doing in college. I knew I had already sunk any chance of a low risk experience via my DNA...
Don't get me started on life 360. Already argue with my wife about not wanting to wear my "tracking collar" as I call it.... I could do a way TLDR on that subject. I understand the benefits but man... just think about all the fun times you would have missed as a young person if your parents would have been tracking your every move. I have small children but I vow to let them live life and not constantly track them. I'm 43 and she's 33 so she grew up with a cell phone-I didn't have one until college and smart phone didn't exist until I was out of college... They can (and will) have their mom to argue with about that. "Why is little Johnny not in his 9am class. Says he's at the golf course?" Me-"maybe he wanted to play golf today, I don't know. And I don't care as long as he keeps his grades up at the end of the day. Let the kid live."
 

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I had the parking thing figured out. I stayed in Suttle all 3 years and rarely attended class. So I had that and total consciousness going for me.
 

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I'd hate to be this guy, the jokes write themselves

Jeremiah Dumas, the executive director of MSU’s Parking and Transit Services
Remember the television ad of a few years ago? I believe the guy was hiring manager, at least interviewing someone, and the guy being interviewed called him "Mr. Dubmas" (the SPS spelling, of course).
 

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This mentions the change from going to 1:1 instead of 1:1.6. Somebody had posted it was 1:6 earlier…. Just wanted to clarify.
 
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Don't get me started on life 360. Already argue with my wife about not wanting to wear my "tracking collar" as I call it.... I could do a way TLDR on that subject. I understand the benefits but man... just think about all the fun times you would have missed as a young person if your parents would have been tracking your every move. I have small children but I vow to let them live life and not constantly track them. I'm 43 and she's 33 so she grew up with a cell phone-I didn't have one until college and smart phone didn't exist until I was out of college... They can (and will) have their mom to argue with about that. "Why is little Johnny not in his 9am class. Says he's at the golf course?" Me-"maybe he wanted to play golf today, I don't know. And I don't care as long as he keeps his grades up at the end of the day. Let the kid live."
My college senior is on life 360. Been on it since HS. He’s now lived in Atlanta and Birmingham on co ops. I can see where he is and he can see where I am if we ever have an emergency (God forbid). However, I have never said one word about where he has been or what time he was there. Even the time I got a notice that his plane had landed in NYC. Surprised? Yes. Did I give him ****? No. Because I’m trying to build trust enough that it isn’t about watching him. He’s also a lot smarter than I ever was.
 
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My college senior is on life 360. Been on it since HS. He’s now lived in Atlanta and Birmingham on co ops. I can see where he is and he can see where I am if we ever have an emergency (God forbid). However, I have never said one word about where he has been or what time he was there. Even the time I got a notice that his plane had landed in NYC. Surprised? Yes. Did I give him ****? No. Because I’m trying to build trust enough that it isn’t about watching him. He’s also a lot smarter than I ever was.
Congrats. You are able to use it "responsibly" and not be a helicopter parent. Most people aren't.
 

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We compromised with our kids (who are now older and youg adults), they could and still do track each other, but we never tracked them. On the few occasions I was trying to get in touch w/ one or the other I called the one that I could get and said hey, where's your sister I need to talk to her. They would tell me right away and I knew she was moving from point A to point B and ok, and just sent a message I needed to talk to her. You can trust them w/out hovering over them, at least mine I could
 
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We strongly considered Life360 for our teen, but opted against it. We felt like it undercut the message that we were trusting our kid's judgment and giving him the chance to be fully independent. Did he make mistakes? Absolutely. Would us having knowledge of where he was at all times prevented that? Absolutely not.

On balance, I think he has appreciated the reasoning behind our deliberate steps to first give, then force, independence to him. One can never know.

I do think that if I had a daughter, I would have it for safety reasons. I'm so glad I don't have daughters. I already don't sleep enough.
 

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I’m so glad I was able to walk to class every morning from the lovely Campus Trails apartments. The ole waistline appreciated it too.
 

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The ONLY time I ever received a parking ticket was when I was a student at Mississippi State. I think it was when I first got there in 1994. I found it was one of the few benefits of having 8 o'clock classes.
I got one ticket at MSU. On the day I took the campus tour. Parked in the lot next to Montgomery since that is where I was to go. Trashed it since I was not a student.

Guess what showed up at the end of the first semester due in full? Later I found out that I could have had it cancelled because I was a prospective student when I got it.

I later managed to get the code to the staff lot next to Allen. Parked there a couple times later in the day and when taking my Intermediate Accounting exams and never got a single ticket.
 

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We strongly considered Life360 for our teen, but opted against it. We felt like it undercut the message that we were trusting our kid's judgment and giving him the chance to be fully independent. Did he make mistakes? Absolutely. Would us having knowledge of where he was at all times prevented that? Absolutely not.

On balance, I think he has appreciated the reasoning behind our deliberate steps to first give, then force, independence to him. One can never know.

I do think that if I had a daughter, I would have it for safety reasons. I'm so glad I don't have daughters. I already don't sleep enough.
My wife and her entire family all share location with each other and routinely just "check in to see where they are" or they'll call and say "pick me up a ___ while you're at ___". They act like I'm an odd duck for not participating in this.
 
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My wife and her entire family all share location with each other and routinely just "check in to see where they are" or they'll call and say "pick me up a ___ while you're at ___". They act like I'm an odd duck for not participating in this.
No thank you.

It's funny that it's some people's love language. My wife's family is absolutely up each other's arse like you described. Even though a ton of it is arguing via text, they wouldn't have it any other way.
 
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We strongly considered Life360 for our teen, but opted against it. We felt like it undercut the message that we were trusting our kid's judgment and giving him the chance to be fully independent. Did he make mistakes? Absolutely. Would us having knowledge of where he was at all times prevented that? Absolutely not.

On balance, I think he has appreciated the reasoning behind our deliberate steps to first give, then force, independence to him. One can never know.

I do think that if I had a daughter, I would have it for safety reasons. I'm so glad I don't have daughters. I already don't sleep enough.
I have a one month old daughter. I sure do love her. But i share all of those anxieties- or I will in about 14 years haha.
 
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My wife and her entire family all share location with each other and routinely just "check in to see where they are" or they'll call and say "pick me up a ___ while you're at ___". They act like I'm an odd duck for not participating in this.
Yea that's my favorite- wife says it's for safety and I'd never be just checking to see where you are or ask why you are somewhere. And routinely checks and asks aloud why her sister or dad is in whatever area or city, then calls to ask why. 😂