Patience for Fred Hoiberg paid off. As fans, we need to give Matt Rhule the same level of patience.
Patience for Matt Rhule
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Bill Callahan was fired too soon.
He should have gotten them with a different DC.
I don’t believe Rhule is anywhere near the fit at NU that Fred is. I’ll be patient but his team needs to play better this year regardless of the record. We could play better and still only win 6.
Good Lord, does your knob-polishing have no limits?
Maybe Matt Rhule should have some "patience" with NU, instead of getting his over-achieving agent to shake down our spineless AD for extensions.
When he gets dumped you can follow him to his next stop and perhaps practice your patience. Then, when he gets to the CFP championship game you can come back on here and say "told ya so"---earmark this post so you can wave it in my face.
Fred had a history of success at the high-major level, turning Iowa State around into a Top 10 team that beat KU two years in a row to win the Big 12 tournament, and making it to a Sweet 16.
Meanwhile Rhule never beat a Top 25 team while at Baylor and had one good season where he played a cupcake schedule.
Fred was also willing to take a paycut and smaller buyout after Year 3 because he had fallen short of expectations. Meanwhile Rhule excepted a raise and extension even though he has also fallen short of expectations.
Fred showed considerable progress in Year 4 and especially Year 5. If Rhule can't do the same, he needs to go.
Meanwhile Rhule never beat a Top 25 team while at Baylor and had one good season where he played a cupcake schedule.
Fred was also willing to take a paycut and smaller buyout after Year 3 because he had fallen short of expectations. Meanwhile Rhule excepted a raise and extension even though he has also fallen short of expectations.
Fred showed considerable progress in Year 4 and especially Year 5. If Rhule can't do the same, he needs to go.
I prefer winners who do their job, not guys more interested in podcasts.
Fred did a program reset, stopped bringing in Me First lazies and build a serious, hard nosed team.
Matt says he isn't doing a reset. I think they are gonna get the same results they always get.
I'm definitely not in on Matt Rhule, but I'll try to be positive and supportive. If they just play hard that would be a start. When have we ever seen a Matt Rhule team play harder than their opponent? Colorado probably, but that was only for the first half.
We’ll see if he adapts with the times. He had a formula that worked at Temple and Baylor, at least in the short term. His approach to the Panthers was a disaster, and the results are pretty mixed with Nebraska. The game has changed a lot in the last 10 years.
I don't know... Here's the thing though, the reason Fred has been shown patience is because truth be told when he came in basketball was prettey much non existent except to us and wasn't and still isn't a viable profitable sport and still hardly has any resources at all which is why we could show Fred the patience we have while football has always been the bread winner as this is a football school and has always had plentiful amounts of resources compared to basketball's speck on the scale. On the grand scale, Fred has done more with far and away much less while Matt has done far and away much less with a 1000 times more. The question that should be asked is, can we afford to show matt the same kind of patience? Imho no.
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Basketball isn’t profitable? I’m simply asking because I don’t know. But it would seem that it would. PBA always seems to fill up. I also wonder about your comment about the lack of resources. Are you sure?
Perfect summary.
Fred had P4 Championships under his belt when he arrived, Rhule had none. He won the equivalent of a HS State title at Temple. to this day, no one knows if Rhule can win a P4 title. Most have doubts.
I still think this thread is a troll job, but sometimes even troll subjects can be discussed.
Does Rhule even have a coherent vision for what this team should be? 2023 is probably what matched his claimed vision the most but then he scrapped it all and chased stars.
Fred’s the kind of guy if he’d have gone 12-20 this year he’d have stepped down and walked away from the money
Matt’s the kind of guy who starts 2026 3-0 and our RBs look good against bad talent, so Matt demands a pay raise as he pats himself on the back on the Pat McAfee show. but then finishes 4-8 mainly due to an ability to run the ball. He instantly would fire EJ and Fat Pat, taking 100% responsibility as he continues to say it’s due to inability for E.J. Barthel to recruit or stewart to make RB a priority in the portal when everyone, including him; thought it was important
Matt’s the kind of guy who starts 2026 3-0 and our RBs look good against bad talent, so Matt demands a pay raise as he pats himself on the back on the Pat McAfee show. but then finishes 4-8 mainly due to an ability to run the ball. He instantly would fire EJ and Fat Pat, taking 100% responsibility as he continues to say it’s due to inability for E.J. Barthel to recruit or stewart to make RB a priority in the portal when everyone, including him; thought it was important
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Matt Rhule was given a Cadillac with less than an 1/8th of a tank of gas. Hoiberg was given a gremlin with the same amount of gas. Hoiberg not only has his car winning races, he's also got the hot chick's and a good pit crew. Rhule still has the hood up under the tree and kicking the tires trying to find the operators manual
OP is either Rhule’s agent or a direct family member. Rhule is the worst coach in the BIG and it ain’t even close. He has taken this program to a level of irrelevance I didn’t think was possible.
It’s all good though, we are a basketball school now.
It’s all good though, we are a basketball school now.
If Matt Rhule was given a Cadillac then it was one sitting on jacks with no motor, no transmission, no wheels and no tires
Disagree. Fan base and facilities is a Cadillac
It was also nice to have a coaching staff make an in-game adjustment when things were going south (zone defense) thereby winning the game and leaving the impression that Nebraska out-coached the other team.
I can't remember a game where Rhule outcoached anyone with superior talent
Kind of surprised at this thread to be honest..
It's pretty well established on who Matt Rhule is and who he isn't. Now, I personally may be excited for this year because of some of the new talent but remember that we are just biding our time because of the contract extension.. I'm predicting some success in spite of Matt Rhule making dumb decisions. Let's not get things twisted.. Matt Rhule is not a good coach, and everyone with a brain knows that now.
The only way I would consider keeping Matt Rhule, is if we brought in a new AD with a vision, whom actually drove the program forward, keeping Matt on as a speaker and recruiter only, then I could go along with that.. but the dumb decision making has to be taken away from Matt.
It's pretty well established on who Matt Rhule is and who he isn't. Now, I personally may be excited for this year because of some of the new talent but remember that we are just biding our time because of the contract extension.. I'm predicting some success in spite of Matt Rhule making dumb decisions. Let's not get things twisted.. Matt Rhule is not a good coach, and everyone with a brain knows that now.
The only way I would consider keeping Matt Rhule, is if we brought in a new AD with a vision, whom actually drove the program forward, keeping Matt on as a speaker and recruiter only, then I could go along with that.. but the dumb decision making has to be taken away from Matt.
Haven't seen the 2025 numbers yet, but men's basketball was 1 of 3 sports that was profitable at UNL in 2024.
I have wondered whether when decisions were being made about Fred when his teams were in sight on the bottom of the P4 barrel, it was noted that his teams had sucked, but that Fred was a quality coach and would eventually figure out how not to have his teams suck. I would say the portal has been a godsend for him, as well as what I see as a shift to getting more BB IQ on the floor. It helps to have a kid on the floor who you've been coaching in one way or another his whole life. But NU finally has proof of concept that high quality basketball can be played in Lincoln, and that the season should make NU more competitive in the portal game coming soon.
As for Rhule, he made a mistake in two defensive hires last year, and he knows that. It put him on a shorter clock and the 2026 season is a bear. I think he cares about the program. Even though his predecessor was part of historical NU teams as a player, I cannot say the same for him. The new defensive coaches he brought in are not tweaking things. Hopefully the 4-2-5 of Aurich is a better fit for the roster on hand. More importantly perhaps, the returning players on the Dline are all a year older. Aurich's approach should have them in alignments that better suit them and I think we should expect better play.
In my opinion, NU has pulled the firing trigger prematurely twice since TO retired and other hires have contributed to a decline in the quality and rep of the program. 2016 is an exception, but I chalk that up to Tommy being a damn warrior on the field and Banker doing decent work with an experienced group.
I don't if it will be Rhule (probably not), but eventually the program will get to the stage where the AD will be making a Fred-like decision with a football coach.
As for Rhule, he made a mistake in two defensive hires last year, and he knows that. It put him on a shorter clock and the 2026 season is a bear. I think he cares about the program. Even though his predecessor was part of historical NU teams as a player, I cannot say the same for him. The new defensive coaches he brought in are not tweaking things. Hopefully the 4-2-5 of Aurich is a better fit for the roster on hand. More importantly perhaps, the returning players on the Dline are all a year older. Aurich's approach should have them in alignments that better suit them and I think we should expect better play.
In my opinion, NU has pulled the firing trigger prematurely twice since TO retired and other hires have contributed to a decline in the quality and rep of the program. 2016 is an exception, but I chalk that up to Tommy being a damn warrior on the field and Banker doing decent work with an experienced group.
I don't if it will be Rhule (probably not), but eventually the program will get to the stage where the AD will be making a Fred-like decision with a football coach.
Rhule seems to have a hard time dealing with criticism and failure. He blocked all the husker media accounts on his twitter. NFL really took all his momentum and confidence.
Mixed results? By what metric? His shining moment is a half a game against Colorado. His results are sh*t.
Hahaha ya think? Anything posted by @moralvictories is a troll job. One of the most prolific trolls this board has ever seen.
Last year it was supposed to be THE year and we crashed and burn. Our wins were against opponents that finished .500 or below.
Our losses were ugly. Getting totally and embarrassingly dominated by Iowa at home AGAIN.
Get this crystal clear, Matt is not taking us anywhere. Giving Matt an extension was the dumbest thing I've ever seen in my life. I think it tops giving frost an extension for absolutely no reason.
This next season is the least excited I've ever been for a new season. I don't know how anyone could deny that.
for the second season in a row, the performance that impressed fans the most was an "almost" win.
i almost miss the element of surprise that Frost teams had in store.
Good to know. Thanks for your disinterest in Nebraska Football.