Pelini communicated with Ruud
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Is Pelini to the one making the calls in the games, clock management and using our secondary defense too?
I heard he was the shooter on the grassy knoll and yelled "fire" in a theatre once. Everything is his fault and has nothing to do with the average guy RiLLLey.
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anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi
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Just like for 7 years when it was Callahans fault
A large portion is on Bo, and it'll be like that theough 2016. Not all players, not even close.
No it doesn't
Why does the Bo talk need to stop? Callahan talk continued 3 or 4 years plus after he was fired. The players Bo recruited are still here, holes in the depth chart are still here from Bo's recruiting, there is certainly part of his culture instilled in some players that are here, etc. Not to say that Riley and Co. Doesn't shoulder some of the blame for stuff going on, but Bo's fingerprints are still definitely all over this program.
Because there's enough issues with this team and the future. We have talent to beat Illinois. Pelini would have, no doubt. And have you seen Riley's recruiting class so far? Good for about 12th in the B1G at this point.
I love the people who want talk about the past with Pelini but for the last nine months have acted like no one can talk about Riley's past. Now we see the same problems that Eichorst should have seen and people want to talk about YSU's coach.
What's really going to suck is when most get to a point when they say, 'We would be better if Bo was here.' That's how bad it's going to get. Thanks Eichorst. Way to go with your gut
If Bo is still communicating with some players on the roster, I'm not sure why it should come as a shock. Bo was many things, but I don't doubt that he deep down doesn't care about most of the guys on the roster he knows. I could see it being a case of some players reaching out to Bo, more than the other way around.
30 years ago or so there'd be so little contact, but with today's technology there is just no way it will be prevented.
30 years ago or so there'd be so little contact, but with today's technology there is just no way it will be prevented.
Yeah, but a good portion of those issues stem from Pelini. Fair game IMO. There is still a toxic culture that comes from the prior regime and a perfect example is Tommy not following what he was told to do. Discipline is gigantic when it comes to football and if you still have guys that long for the prior regime, then you don't have everybody bought into what you are doing and it doesn't matter what plays are called, they won't be executed correctly. That stuff doesn't happen overnight and sure as hell doesn't happen 5 games into a season. Will it happen with this staff? Nobody knows.
Is that a fact? Let's see how many guys get drafted from each squad this coming NFL draft. Fact is the talent level at Nebraska right now is a joke. Nothing against the players, but a vast majority of them had no business ever suiting up here and that's on 408.
Is that a fact? Let's see how many guys get drafted from each squad this coming NFL draft. Fact is the talent level at Nebraska right now is a joke. Nothing against the players, but a vast majority of them had no business ever suiting up here and that's on 408.
Pelini beat the teams he should have. It was the teams with a pulse that got him fired.
Dead on!!! There's is little to no talent. People don't get what it takes to play in the league. Neb just doesn't produce talent. Aka, recruit talent. Parity is alive and well and not going anywhere fast.
Nice sidestep.... Lets see how many get drafted from each team this coming draft.
Name one guy on the field for Illinois that will be drafted in the next 4 years not named wes lunt or geronimo allison ( and they will be late rounders) as for nebraska...collins, valentine, dpe, morgan, westy and gerry might be late rounders, freedom could develop into nfl talent...not sure who you got from illinois
Pelini psychologically damaged every single player on the team with his sociopathic message. It is undeniable that there is a leftover fungus on the team that does not lend to a team playing up to its potential. The hope is that we can win enough over the next couple years that Riley will be able to recruit quality players. If we don't win at least 7 or 8, it will be tough to talk really good players into coming.
Did you just blame that loss on Pelini because Tommy doesn't follow orders? Was it Bo's fault that Carter lined up wrong? Was it his fault our motion guy went at the wrong time? Was it his fault the frosh said he thought it was a pass play? This Bo stuff is getting ridiculous.
Did Pelini "psychologically damage" MR and Langsdorf into not calling a fullback dive on 3rd and 7 or a qb sneak? Or call 31 passes in a gale?
Did he Jedi Mind trick Banker into not calling the right defense for a Hail Mary by BYU?
Did Pelini talk MR into not getting Juco's to fill in the holes?
Seriously?
No, I blame poor execution on the fact of these guys have had years of poor disclipline and theven fact that players are this way is a carryover from the prior regime. There are coaching issues with this staff that needs to get ironed out. Yes, the play calling was suspect, but like I said, if players haven't bought in you are going to see that. I'm sorry that it is just too easy for guys like you to just blame the current staff when things go bad, but there are many factors of why we haven't played well and Pelini is a part of that. The fact that people lie you continue to want to completely absolve the former staff is the thing that is ridiculous.
We never ever should have lost to Minnesota, Northwestern or Iowa. How about Iowa State at home? A Texass team that ended 5-7 beat #4 Nebraska at home. Is 5-7 a pulse?
Should have beaten a 7-5 Wisconsin team. We were the ones without a pulse that day and many others under him.
A quarterback bootleg RUN was called, and if that play had been executed, NU would have had a win. That is factual.
We absolutely should have run the ball more, but is Tommy runs that play that was called, we win. We are not good enough to beat quality teams running all day, so Tommy needs real game practice throwing.
How was Riley to know about all of the holes in time to recruit Jucos?
On the Hail Mary, we had plenty of defenders in the area. We needed a player to make a play. Knowing how horrible our DBs are, I would have had a couple big receivers in, as I have often seen NFL teams do.
And I blame the fact that Tommy didn't do as he was supposed to do on the fact that this was a hold over of the culture that was prior.
Good grief. As already said here. Pelini lost plenty of games he should have won. Revisionist history at its finest.
Where is the discussion of what happened with Riley in the past? He and Langsdorf have had constant brainfarts on game management in the past. He was consistently ridiculed for being too cute with his play calling. Plenty of people talked about his lack of discipline with his team from penalties to stupid plays. These were known issues that this board refused to acknowledge last winter and people want to sweep under the rug now. Nothing that happened yesterday was a surprise to Oregon State fans who have seen this act before.
There's been plenty of discussion on this board of Riley's past. It gets brought up here on a daily basis and I have no issue with that. As long as it is part of discussion it is fine, but what we usually delete are the Riley sucks content with with no rational discussion with it.
This is an unbelievable cop out. Is there a negative feeling carried over from last year? Sure, that's going to happen when you fire any coach that just won 9 games. But when your current coaches' decisions and game mismanagement are the reason for 2 of the 3 losses, the current staff isn't showing that they deserve to be followed or respected.
Let me ask you this, if you're a Nebraska player and your coach just got fired after you had an average season and they hire a guy that just went 5-7, what is it going to take for him to gain your respect? Because he's won in the past? Nope. Because someone told you to respect him? Nope. He has to earn it and so far, he hasn't earned it.
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If I am a player, I am going to respect my new coach because I was raised by my parents to respect my teachers, coaches, pastors, police, elders, etc. Doing anything else is not an option and it shouldn't be. If kids were taught respect anymore, many of our societal issues would be solved.
The team we played yesterday was worse than that Iowa St and Northwestern team.
If were going to keep mentioning Pelini to defend Riley than we get to trash Riley every minute he is here.