You forget, this is the SAME dude that said Askew one of the "all time greats"
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Perry to Ole Miss
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Not angry that he left, but I’m not supporting someone who left for an in-conference school. I’m not against him, but I’m certainly not going to support him. Showed he is more about the name Perry than the name Kentucky. Filtered out, good riddance.
Yeah, everyone should put their needs in front of a university’s. That’s all he did.
He did, but he was either told or clearly saw he was unlikely to play much at all next season. I can’t blame him for wanting to play.
Not my point. My point is Beard has been known to make bad evaluations on players. Perry is a good shooter. He's not good at much else.
And are you implying Pope didn't give Perry an opportunity?
Wish Perry the best, but time to focus on UK players! I’m sure the 7 fans on the Ole Miss board will debate his addition until the wee hours 
The same thing that happened with schools willing to grow some players over time and gradually provide more opportunity. They started taking shortcuts and bringing other guys in that already went through it somewhere else. I hate the system but it’s fair game both ways. If young guys don’t get minutes even at a step down then they can’t show somebody they deserve to move back up. Teams go to the portal generally to get guys that got minutes, productive minutes, somewhere else. Not someone who got mop ups or sat around and watched. Not much market value in that. And a kid like him isn’t ever going to be as athletic as the kids that are going to be brought in year after year.
I don't blame him either. But he went to a school where I just don't think he will do much better.
But shouldn't he have sort of known that when committing to Kentucky? He committed to Cal when we were adding 3 or 4 elite recruits every year who would for sure play ahead of him. Idk, just feel like none of this should be a surprise. But I do understand that NIL has changed things drastically since he committed to UK.
I’m a Kentucky fan so my support is specifically for a university. I get why he did it and I think it’s for the best for both sides. He chose to go inside the conference so good riddance
The young man did what he thought was best for his situation. Agree or disagree with it.
I just don’t like some of the sour attitudes toward the guy being expressed here.
I just don’t like some of the sour attitudes toward the guy being expressed here.
I'm fine with him making his own decisions. Just not sure I fully understand his choice. Which I don't have to; just not sure why he thinks Ole Miss is a better place for him in the same conference he struggled in previously.
Buddy, they won’t be dog crap as long as Beard is there.
Idk if he plays 20, but I’ll bet he plays 15 or more.
Perry could be good in a system that runs a lot of zone. Offensively he is a good player I believe. Defense he’s terrible. A liability for a team like UK a team striving for top 5 status.
Perry was a GREAT HS player even though his dad was the coach. Heck, he's the leading scorer in KHSAA history. Now transitioning that to high D1 basketball is a HUGE step up. And it was apparent from his play last season that he is NOT ready to be a major contributor on this next season's team with all of the talent UK has now.
As far as his feelings about Pope, I just think he and his dad feel like Travis is a much better player than the way the UK coaching staff was using him or their lack of USING him. So they put feelers out and found that there were coaches interested in giving him a LARGER role. So now he's at Ole Miss. Which like I mentioned above is sort of shocking considering that he'll STILL have to compete against the athletes in the SEC.
But like @bookerfan66 stated above, it is interesting that Travis hasn't made a public statement about leaving UK yet either. So there could be some bad blood there. But I HIGHLY doubt there is any between Travis and Trent.
Color me skeptical. Beard is an ok coach. But he's not elite. At least not yet.
| Overall | 280–121 (.698) |
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| Tournaments | 12–6 (NCAA Division I) 2–1 (NCAA Division II) |
He does have a FF and an EE8, but he's not been the same dude since he left TT. He's made the second weekend once since 2018.
He's 44-24 at Ole Miss. I think this will be a defining year for him down there as well. This is his season to show he's a good fit for them too.
Your post is very accurate. Plus more NIl money.
It is very strange he did not make a post thanking the coaches or BBN even if someone else wrote it for him.
Beard is absolutely an elite coach. One of the best in the game no questions asked. Ole Miss is a dump and he’s got them in places they’ve never been. He killed it at TT. He would have killed it at Texas. He should be UK’s next coach if the background clears and Pope doesn’t work. The guy could easily have ole miss thinking final fours soon. He’s that good.
Will never understand this idea that he’s not elite. He’s been an overtime away from a title at a program bob knight himself couldn’t do. He also had an elite 8 there so was knocking on the door of multiple titles. These aren’t basketball schools and largely doormats. You give Beard Kansas and we have big problems.
Not a single person in Oxford thinks he’s not already shown he’s a good fit lol. What?
I was very happy that Indiana was yet again stupid when they had a chance to hire a great coach two years In a row now and passed it up for Darien Devries. He may end up being a good coach, but I think May and especially Beard were the hires to make.
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So it was apparent that he wasn’t ready but he and his dad thought otherwise?
If that’s the case, good luck Kid. Perhaps you will have the last laugh. Perhaps not. Will be interesting to watch.
I was worried about Beard to Indiana. I think Indiana isn’t worried about winning big anymore. Kentucky better get serious about keeping up, we need our next AD to be an attack dog. I’ll never understand this idea that you can’t hire a guy like Beard. Clearly you can and nobody cares. I have a grad degree from UK and I’m not embarrassed a bit by a coach with baggage. Has no relevance on my accomplishment nor the university itself. It’s an ego thing with some of these guys. “I’m too good” type of deal that only hurts the programs.
Beard at UK is titles. That’s what I care about. If he’s okay to hire at Ole Miss then who cares? Their background check obviously said good to go, so what’s different about UK?
Obviously guys like Pearl are so slimy I’d probably have reservations but Beard nah. No telling what really happened and it sounds like a 1 time thing.
Their whole school is holier than thou. They are too good for Beard in their minds. They do it the “right” way. Whatever that means. It’s some North Carolina ****.
Lineskicat14, Why would Perry or any athlete want to sit on the bench for their favorite school vs getting on the floor to play at any school. It would take an idiot or someone who was not competitive to take the bench option. Let's assume you played high school sports. If you did would you be happier sitting on the bench or would you ratther be at a school across town getting regular playing time. Next year and most likely every year someone on our team will hit the portal if they are recruited over and they see the hand writing that they are not going to get any playing time except blowout minutes. That is NOT a bad reflection on the kid because he wants to play, not be a damn cheer leader. But here we are, bad mouthing a kid for making a decision that he wants more playing time. If he was not going to get minutes here. He did not hurt our team by leaving, he helped himself. Now if one of our projected starters hit the portal late, it would create more issues but if they were getting a huge raise, how can you blame the kids. If you were offered double your salary tomorrow moring to move to another company doing exactly what you currently do, please tell me you would say no way I like my company too much to benefit my family.
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Your record is what you are. He's at 44-24 at Oxford. I think this is the year he either shows he can be elite there (making a deep run) or they just kinda are good every so often.
One FF and One E8 is elite now? Come on. That's being a little too generous. That means dudes like Cal, K, Williams, etc are untouchable legends.
HIGHLY Disagree.
Yes he’s a few minutes away from 2 final fours at TT and an overtime away from a title. Not as a big time program.
He’s already getting ole miss to places they’ve never been. They’ve never been a threat like this at all.
The guy has absolutely proven himself as an elite coach. Beard is 44-24 at ole miss not UNC. He’s turned that program into something they don’t recognize. He will probably end up the next coach at Kansas and we have real problems. No I don’t have any idea what you’re talking about. He’s elite but not a legend yet. He’s young.
Sports is about way more than rooting for your team.
A guy that wasn't gonna be playing upset you by leaving so you hope he fails.. I'm not rooting for the dude to be great but I can't understand being mad at him
There’s no way in hell Perry will fetch that kind of money.
And BIll Self also just ran out of time too.
He's gotten them to a S16 for the first time since 2001. I'll give him that. But that puts him on the same level there as Rod Barnes. You act like they've never sniffed tournaments before. Come on.
This is Year 3 and I think it's (like it is for all new coaches as a program) the year where you can show what you can or probably can't do. It's a pivotal year for him the program.
You don't think our current coach can compete with that? Time will tell.
I think Beard was on his way to being an elite coach until like Cal and a few others the COVID year really messed them up. Then he decided to let his domestic issues get in his way. Maybe he can bounce back and be the guy he was at TT. Again, time will tell.
But it sounds like some here are ready to root for Ole Miss for some reason.
I don’t think you fully understand. Beard has nothing in common with Barnes. Beard just got to ole miss and it took him less than 24 months to get them further than they’ve ever been. Anyone can see he can pretty easily have them fighting for final fours in the future. I don’t know if you’ve ever been to Oxford, or the tad pad over the years, but ole miss is a basketball dump. The guy is beating UK at ole miss lol. He’s got them in places they’ve never been, ever. Not in this amount of time. He’s quickly becoming their greatest coach ever and he’s barely done anything.
I’m not going to go back over what I’ve already said. His record speaks for itself. If Pope somehow didn’t work out, we should absolutely throw the book at Beard. And he’s elite absolutely he is. The guy is easily one of the best coaches in the country today hands down no questions asked.
There aren’t many I would want over Beard in 2 years if Pope didn’t work out. Luckily I think he will because the only negative he had was recruiting and with NIL that simply doesn’t matter anymore. It’s about money then brand then coach now. But yes Beard is elite and no basketball mind on TV or in coaching would question that.
I think that’s fair. I don’t think he’s good enough to play at this level. Maybe he had a dream and found the reality of it wasn’t what he thought it’d be and wanted a change of scenery and to make some money on a very limited time frame.
I understand it.
He beat us once. While we were beat up. You sound more like an Beard fan than a UK fan tbh.
"Quickly becoming the greatest coach ever"
LO FREAKING L. Hyperbole much? Let's wait until he wins an actual title first mkay?
How could Perry and his Dad think UK mistreated him somehow.Are they delusional, once again name ANY SEC school where he would have gotten more playing time this year than he did here. He started 2 or 3 games. Zero is the number of schools he would have started ANY games in this conference. He got AMPLY opportunity to show what he could do. He was a huge defensive liability, slow,undersized and his legendary shooting acumen was in little evidence in most of his games. He obviously thinks he is an SEC calibre player yet refused to stay here and fight to prove it. If he thinks he will not have to do that at Ole Miss he truly is delusional.
Beard is definitely a good coach. I don't see how anyone can argue otherwise. Thankfully iu didn't hire him.
I could maybe buy this if he just never got his opportunity but thats far from the case. He had every opportunity and was just not competitive.
He could barely bring the ball up the court, airballed layups, was abused on D, and barely eclipsed 40% on 3s.
I could understand this transfer more if he at least left the league. Instead he's staying at the same level of competition where we just saw him get abused.
Here is my wag: uk told him he wouldn't be getting any nil this year, which is the modern day equivalent of a walk on. Beard offered him 100k or so and he took it. If that turns out to be the case, i don't blame him. If it isnt, he just traded one bench for another.
I could maybe buy this if he just never got his opportunity but thats far from the case. He had every opportunity and was just not competitive.
He could barely bring the ball up the court, airballed layups, was abused on D, and barely eclipsed 40% on 3s.
I could understand this transfer more if he at least left the league. Instead he's staying at the same level of competition where we just saw him get abused.
Here is my wag: uk told him he wouldn't be getting any nil this year, which is the modern day equivalent of a walk on. Beard offered him 100k or so and he took it. If that turns out to be the case, i don't blame him. If it isnt, he just traded one bench for another.
Elite or whatever is completely subjective. You can be skeptical all you want. The dude did that FF and E8 at freaking Texas Tech. He also cleaned up Shakas mess at Texas. He was so good in year 2 at Texas that when he got fired Rodney Terry couldn’t even screw it up. And now he’s got Ole Miss rolling. Idk if he’s “elite”, whatever that means, but he’s one of the absolute best coaches in college basketball currently.
One major difference in CBB over the last 50 years is almost no one stays at a school for 4 years. There was a time they RS their 1st season. Still older fans recognize the guys that play. Guys that sit at the end of the bench aren’t remembered the same way. Though most would remember Farmer, and recognize him. There are plenty of similar guys that aren’t gonna stand out at all.