Perry

[Morgousky859]

You wasn’t using it in that context and if you were, you’re more uneducated than I previously thought.

Still not one thing answered that you’ve been asked.

Keep deflecting, you are making yourself look more stupid with each comment.

"You Wasn't using it" lol. That's not a typo. That's how you speak. Didn't you mention education? Is that what you have on the internet? Degrees?

 

[ZaytovenCat]

Man, I don’t have a problem with him at all but throwing shade at UK can cost him in the long run. Some UK fans have a long memory.

Exactly. Same for that one kid. Jeff Sheppard’s offspring. The one that played at Arkansas for Calipari..

 

[UK4Life#9]

"You Wasn't using it" lol. That's not a typo. That's how you speak. Didn't you mention education? Is that what you have on the internet? Degrees?

You have been the laughing stock of rafters for years and now I see why..

 

[Morgousky859]

You have been the laughing stock of rafters for years and now I see why..

You've made a ton of grammatical and structural errors in this thread alone. If you don't speak so much, they won't realize what level you're on. And you might be believed to be "educated" as you call it. lol

You can improve over time, but those personality traits will get in the way of that.

 

[Morgousky859]

aaaaaaand first ignore on the new board......3....2....1

 

[Cattorney]

You used it in the context of a sigh. Stop trying to backpedal now.

So you’re saying that that resume is considered top 10 in the country???? You really are clueless about college basketball, holy crap!

I don't think Shew and sigh are the same, though. That would be more like Jeez.

So name you top 10! It's your time to shine, bud. Show us all these better current coaches.

 

[UK4Life#9]

You've made a ton of grammatical and structural errors in this thread alone. If you don't speak so much, they won't realize what level you're on. And you might be believed to be "educated" as you call it. lol

You can improve over time, but those personality traits will get in the way of that.

Im educated in basketball, you clearly are not. I’m driving home from work, to pay for people like you to stay in mommy’s basement..

 

[Cattorney]

It's leadbelly. I was just playin around with him, it's boring around here.

Nope, I am formerly LB. This guy is just a weird.

 

[UK4Life#9]

I don't think Shew and sigh are the same, though. That would be more like Jeez.

So name you top 10! It's your time to shine, bud. Show us all these better current coaches.

They aren’t the same and that’s why you’re a moron, you used shoo in the wrong text. You’re still deflecting from admitting that you think Beards resume is top 10 in the country?

 

[UK4Life#9]

The 2 laughing stocks of rafters, Lead Belly and Morg. This has completely made my day!

 

[Morgousky859]

Nope, I am formerly LB. This guy is just a weird.

Belly as I was reading and seeing your responses I was like ah....gifs give it away

Arguing with yourself......one of your favorites.

How you been? Still gonna hang around?

 

[UK4Life#9]

Lead Belly and Morg aren’t even Cats fans and are here more than the diehards. Rent free, even in the offseason..

 

[Cattorney]

They aren’t the same and that’s why you’re a moron, you used shoo in the wrong text. You’re still deflecting from admitting that you think Beards resume is top 10 in the country?

You said shoo and sigh were the same. Not me!

What text should I have used? Comic sans? Times new roman?
How am

How am I deflecting when I literally admitted that he was.

So, who are your top 10? Why the fear in answering?

 

[Cattorney]

Lead Belly and Morg aren’t even Cats fans and are here more than the diehards. Rent free, even in the offseason..

Lol, really?!?!? Who am I a fan of then?

 

[PastorofMuppets82]

It's not about that. This is the only place in the world where Perry is known and somewhat famous. It's a long term thing you can't get anywhere else. It's why WCS and others move back here. It has a ton of perks and it's a lifestyle for life that is really special. He won't have any of that, and it matters. He's just too young to see it, and his family obviously doesn't understand it, or they don't care themselves.

I'm curious what perks being an average end of the bench player on UK are? Please list them in bullet form. Should we ask Jon Hood who stayed all four years? You used WCS as an example, dude is from Kansas and despite my love for the dude, has a pretty sorted history with the old drug usage. I mean it's cool that he has love for UK, but he was MILES better than Perry, and wasn't a home state kid so there is no comparison. This isn't the 1960's where you get to sell insurance or take a fake paper job selling used cars because you used to wear Kentucky on your chest unless you were a stud while doing it. If TP wants to feel like a king all he has to do is go back to Eddyville, I doubt he's concerned about what people in Hazard or Freeburn think of him. I mean maybe when he drives through he can get a free roller dog at the local Pump and Stop. lol

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

What "truly great coach" won to a level you expect, which apparently is what, I guess, not many double digit losses, a final four, title game (overtime away from a championship), followed by an elite 8, and winning seasons at nothing programs and football oriented states and universities? Who are these coaches? Because the ones I'm looking at that have accomplished that are coaches at basketball programs, or programs geared toward both and nationally recognized. There is not one single serious journalist or basketball mind that does this for a living that would say what Beard has done is a fluke. None. Because it's not.

BCG never, ever, reached close to the level of success that Beard did. You seem to be talking all over the place and not making any sense at all. Beard has not just been at football school programs, he's been at fairly bad football school programs. TT isn't jut awful but they're decently on the wrong side of average and a football school. Ole Miss is literally one of the worst basketball programs in the entire country in the power 5. He's beating Kentucky and has them already, very quickly, in the sweet 16.

You keep saying Fluke about a national title game run and expect that to be some sort of statistic? I don't understand what you're saying? Why are you asking me for analytics to back my claim when you have literally argued that the statistics that say he's a great coach aren't valid because YOU say it's not anything more than luck. I guess his outstanding results at ULAR are luck too? What about the season he was a few bounces from the final four again at a football program? Fluke? Taking a legitimate top 5 worst power 5 program in Ole Miss to the sweet 16 nearly immediately and already in conversations about taking Ole Miss to a final four? Everyone is just what? nuts? Because you saying one of those seasons is a fluke is somehow statistics and "analytics".

No offense but this is just stupid and I'm not gonna continue arguing someone who's leaving out all context, accomplishments, current success, comparative history, and going against the opinion of basketball minds far greater than yourself because you can't evaluate and don't want to believe it.

Beard is a great program away from being elevated to a level where his talent meets the opportunity. You better hope Kansas doesn't make the move because I can tell you 100% it's who their fans want. They're nuts too, right? Beard has done as good as any great coach would do. By great I mean nearly guaranteed to be a title coach in the next few decades and a real shot at multiple titles in that timeframe. If you can't see that then you can't evaluate, regardless of what you think you're seeing.

Sadly I think the Bill will retire soon with all his new health issues. I could see Beard going there and you are right, he would be scary there.

 

[Morgousky859]

I'm curious what perks being an average end of the bench player on UK are? Please list them in bullet form. Should we ask Jon Hood who stayed all four years? You used WCS as an example, dude is from Kansas and despite my love for the dude, has a pretty sorted history with the old drug usage. I mean it's cool that he has love for UK, but he was MILES better than Perry, and wasn't a home state kid so there is no comparison. This isn't the 1960's where you get to sell insurance or take a fake paper job selling used cars because you used to wear Kentucky on your chest unless you were a stud while doing it. If TP wants to feel like a king all he has to do is go back to Eddyville, I doubt he's concerned about what people in Hazard or Freeburn think of him. I mean maybe when he drives through he can get a free roller dog at the local Pump and Stop. lol

In Bullet form? If you don't understand it you've never been in Lexington Kentucky. There is no other place you can be a former college basketball player who was largely average and still be signing autographs 20 years later sir. I don't know what the hell you're going on about hazard kentucky or whatever you're saying. Playing at UK is a special thing and always has been. He would always be remembered here, he will never even be known there. If that sort if thing is meaningless to you that's fine but to normal people it's pretty neat. ANd if you knew any UK boosters who contribute to these players, and I do, you'd understand how much they do in their lives. No, Ole Miss basketball offers none of that. He will realize his mistake years later and many have said they do, incuding guys like Bill Cook, who have always regretting turning down UK years later because of this very reason.

The problem with the internet is it makes people believe because they can offer opinions in sentences it actually means somethin. It doesn't.

 

[Morgousky859]

Sadly I think the Bill will retire soon with all his new health issues. I could see Beard going there and you are right, he would be scary there.

Not afan of saying that F2M, but I think we;re seeing the same thing. It wouldn't be good.

 

[UKWildcats1987]

Also on Perry, never has a more irrelevant player been so overanalzyed by this fanbase so much. He quit on UK and good luck but good riddance to me. He will give up tons of buckets to UK and look for a 20 plus UK win.

 

[PastorofMuppets82]

In Bullet form? If you don't understand it you've never been in Lexington Kentucky. There is no other place you can be a former college basketball player who was largely average and still be signing autographs 20 years later sir. I don't know what the hell you're going on about hazard kentucky or whatever you're saying. Playing at UK is a special thing and always has been. He would always be remembered here, he will never even be known there. If that sort if thing is meaningless to you that's fine but to normal people it's pretty neat. ANd if you knew any UK boosters who contribute to these players, and I do, you'd understand how much they do in their lives. No, Ole Miss basketball offers none of that. He will realize his mistake years later and many have said they do, incuding guys like Bill Cook, who have always regretting turning down UK years later because of this very reason.

The problem with the internet is it makes people believe because they can offer opinions in sentences it actually means somethin. It doesn't.

Yes bullet form, you know dots or hashes followed by words to assert your points or stance, possibly even statements of facts... But please continue, your intelligence is powerful and overwhelming, proven by your inability to name a single "perk" staying at UK for 4 years and riding the pine would do for Travis in the future. Moreover, it's entirely possible you are hurt because a Kentucky kid decided to play elsewhere after finding out UK wasn't a good fit for him. I did my undergrad in Lexington (at Transylvania) and got my masters at UK. I'm familiar with the town and atmosphere. I happen to know several boosters who contribute. I never once said Ole Miss would offer anything post graduation to Travis. I said pretty plainly, he doesn't care about any of that because he already has the money and his future planned out. He doesn't need some aura of being an ex UK player to succeed down the road. Maybe you do. Maybe he has no plans to live in KY in the future. Some people have bigger life goals than being the guy that used to play at that place once who is only rememberable because they were from that state.

 

[UKortho]

Link?

No evidence of him actually throwing shade at UK but someone posted it so it must be true.

Yep. He left- some cant let that go.

 

[JwUKFan11]

You wasn’t using it in that context and if you were, you’re more uneducated than I previously thought.

Still not one thing answered that you’ve been asked.

Keep deflecting, you are making yourself look more stupid with each comment.

Amazing display of knowledge there on the English language while calling someone else uneducated. Man, you really showed him.

 

[UK4Life#9]

You said shoo and sigh were the same. Not me!

What text should I have used? Comic sans? Times new roman?
How am

How am I deflecting when I literally admitted that he was.

So, who are your top 10? Why the fear in answering?

Hurley, Golden, Self, Izzo, Bennet, Pitino, Cal, Oats, Pearl, Painter, Drew, Sampson, Scheyer, Few, Barnes.

That’s off the top of my head, I have no fear of discussing this, it’s called being an adult and having to work, not spend every waking second on a rival team’s sports forum..

You have more than lead in your belly and it’s all over your chin as well..

 

[UK4Life#9]

Amazing display of knowledge there on the English language while calling someone else uneducated. Man, you really showed him.

Says the guy with a sentence full of grammatical errors.

We found the 3rd stooge, Lead Belly, Morg and whoever this loser is..

 

[Cattorney]

Hurley, Golden, Self, Izzo, Bennet, Pitino, Cal, Oats, Pearl, Painter, Drew, Sampson, Scheyer, Few, Barnes.

That’s off the top of my head, I have no fear of discussing this, it’s called being an adult and having to work, not spend every waking second on a rival team’s sports forum..

You have more than lead in your belly and it’s all over your chin as well..

Didn't Bennett retire?

Barnes???? Has never been to a national championship. Hasn't been to a F4 in 23 years. Great choice!

Painter? What's better about his resume?

Pearl has never been to a national championship game.

Scheyer has never been to a championship game.

Nate Oats? Also has no national championship game appearances.



Lol, clearly you don't know the leadbelly reference. Lulz.

 

[UK4Life#9]

Didn't Bennett retire?

Barnes???? Has never been to a national championship. Hasn't been to a F4 in 23 years. Great choice!

Painter? What's better about his resume?

Pearl has never been to a national championship game.

Scheyer has never been to a championship game.

Nate Oats? Also has no national championship game appearances.



Lol, clearly you don't know the leadbelly reference. Lulz.

Bennet retired in 2024 but he was active all the years that we are debating.

Now instead of Final Fours, you’ve now moved the goal post to championship game APPEARANCES..

You asked for 10 coaches and I gave you 15 better coaches.. This mic is getting kind of heavy, I might as well drop it!

 

[Cattorney]

Bennet retired in 2024 but he was active all the years that we are debating.

Now instead of Final Fours, you’ve now moved the goal post to championship game APPEARANCES..

You asked for 10 coaches and I gave you 15 better coaches.. This mic is getting kind of heavy, I might as well drop it!

Bennett isn't an active coach though, is he? Wasn't that the question?


LMAO, what goalposts even existed? Who said anything about criteria for them. I simply stated list your top 10 active coaches. However, several of the guys you listed havent even advanced as far as Beard. So how does that make them better? Several also have never been an AP COY? So how does that make them better? What makes them better coaches? What stats are you using to support your opinion?

 

[JwUKFan11]

Says the guy with a sentence full of grammatical errors.

We found the 3rd stooge, Lead Belly, Morg and whoever this loser is..

LOL. Please bold where the mistakes are. Don't worry, I'll wait.

 

[KFuqua]

Bennet retired in 2024 but he was active all the years that we are debating.

Now instead of Final Fours, you’ve now moved the goal post to championship game APPEARANCES..

You asked for 10 coaches and I gave you 15 better coaches.. This mic is getting kind of heavy, I might as well drop it!

Goodbye troll. Basically every post you make is just you trying to start trouble with another poster. So, congratulations... you're the first to hit my ignore list since the change-over! I won't miss you!

 

[UK4Life#9]

Goodbye troll. Basically every post you make is just you trying to start trouble with another poster. So, congratulations... you're the first to hit my ignore list since the change-over! I won't miss you!

I’m honored to hurt your feelings with facts, to the point that you are publicly crying about it. Adios amigo!

 

[UK4Life#9]

Bennett isn't an active coach though, is he? Wasn't that the question?


LMAO, what goalposts even existed? Who said anything about criteria for them. I simply stated list your top 10 active coaches. However, several of the guys you listed havent even advanced as far as Beard. So how does that make them better? Several also have never been an AP COY? So how does that make them better? What makes them better coaches? What stats are you using to support your opinion?

The goalposts that exist for every debate. You asked for 10 and I gave you 15 with better resumes. Do your own research on them, you might learn something and come back with enough intelligence to have opinions based on facts. Your personal opinion doesn’t override facts.

 

[Cattorney]

The goalposts that exist for every debate. You asked for 10 and I gave you 15 with better resumes. Do your own research on them, you might learn something and come back with enough intelligence to have opinions based on facts. Your personal opinion doesn’t override facts.

Lol, what goalposts are these? Why don't you articulate them for us?

I researched them, but I didn't see these better resumes and "facts" you allege....why don't you detail them for us??

It seems odd you keep referencing facts, but you've never provided a single one to support your statements.

 

[Wunky]

Why do people think Perry is someone who "needs" post college UK clout? His dad is the Director of Pharmacy at a local hospital and his mother is a Family Practice Dr (both UK grads). The Perry's are wealthy, Travis is intelligent and will likely follow his parents into the medical field (he almost transferred to Vanderbilt because of this). I've known his Dad my whole life. They let Travis make his own decision on where he wanted to go. He isn't planning on playing pro anywhere after college from what his Dad says. Ole Miss offered considerably more NIL and a promise of more playing time than he would see at UK this year, and offered his sister a scholarship as well. I dislike that he left UK, but I understand and hold no ill will. He's a kid who wasn't good enough to be here, he tried, but he knew he wasn't UK rotation talent, and wanted to chase a dream to play high level division one basketball somewhere else. Good luck to him. But he doesn't need "former UK 15th bench man" on his resume to somehow land a post college job.

Agree with everything you said, and yet Perry continues to make comments that could be construed as snide and backhanded regarding his time at UK. His father was also (reportedly) unhappy with how the fanbase treated him, which I don’t understand at all.

 

[UK4Life#9]

Lol, what goalposts are these? Why don't you articulate them for us?

I researched them, but I didn't see these better resumes and "facts" you allege....why don't you detail them for us??

It seems odd you keep referencing facts, but you've never provided a single one to support your statements.

Coaches get credit for championships and final fours, not championship games appearances, especially when their team folds like a lawn chair in OT to lose by 8 points. He lost that game with horrible coaching choices in the last few minutes.

Tell me which coach that I mentioned who has a resume that is worse than Beard and I will destroy you with facts. You asked for 10 and I gave you 15 and now you’re too uneducated to analyze them so you’re asking me to do it for you.

 

[Cattorney]

Coaches get credit for championships and final fours, not championship games appearances, especially when their team folds like a lawn chair in OT to lose by 8 points. He lost that game with horrible coaching choices in the last few minutes.

Tell me which coach that I mentioned who has a resume that is worse than Beard and I will destroy you with facts. You asked for 10 and I gave you 15 and now you’re too uneducated to analyze them so you’re asking me to do it for you.

Is a national championship appearance not a F4 and beyond?

Losing by 8 is folding in the NC?



Below was already asked and you ignored, but go ahead.


Didn't Bennett retire?

Barnes???? Has never been to a national championship. Hasn't been to a F4 in 23 years. Great choice!

Painter? What's better about his resume?

Pearl has never been to a national championship game.

Scheyer has never been to a championship game.

Nate Oats? Also has no national championship game appearances.

 

[UK4Life#9]

Is a national championship appearance not a F4 and beyond?

Losing by 8 is folding in the NC?



Below was already asked and you ignored, but go ahead.


Didn't Bennett retire?

Barnes???? Has never been to a national championship. Hasn't been to a F4 in 23 years. Great choice!

Painter? What's better about his resume?

Pearl has never been to a national championship game.

Scheyer has never been to a championship game.

Nate Oats? Also has no national championship game appearances.

Oats has more conference championships and the the same amount of final fours. Also a better winning win percentage and has gone further in the tournament on more occasions than Beard.

Scheyer has more conference championships and the same amount of final fours and also has a better win percentage, also taking his teams further in the tournament on more occasions than Beard.

Pearl has more final fours, more conference championships, and better win percentage as well.

Painter has the same amount of final fours, more conference championships and a better winning percentage as well.


Barnes has the same amount of final fours, more conference championships and around the same win percentage but has sustained success for 30 years of coaching.

Bennet retired but he won a championship, more conference championships and a better winning percentage.

You’re welcome!!! Feel free to dispute anything I said with FACTS and not opinions…. I’ll wait.

 

[PastorofMuppets82]

Agree with everything you said, and yet Perry continues to make comments that could be construed as snide and backhanded regarding his time at UK. His father was also (reportedly) unhappy with how the fanbase treated him, which I don’t understand at all.

From the little I've spoken to Ryan on the golf course about the situation, he was only upset with fans who took it upon themselves to reach out to Travis and the family themselves directly and say some pretty disrespectful and uncalled for things. Every fanbase has a few, but seriously who messages a player's mother calling him trash, a waste of a scholarship, and saying he doesn't deserve to wear the uniform? It's those fans Ryan (his father) was referencing, not the entire fanbase as a whole. It's that subset who like to message high school recruits on twitter and make us look crazy or take to social media to cry about the sky falling when someone prefers another school to UK. As for Travis' comments, I won't even attempt to justify them or explain them away. He's his own man and he can feel any sort of way about the program he wants to because he lived it. I don't think he's taken direct shots at UK from anything I've seen, maybe just a little too snide and can be taken as such so far. I'm just amazed so many fans STILL want to talk about him.

 

[Cattorney]

Oats has more conference championships and the the same amount of final fours. Also a better winning win percentage and has gone further in the tournament on more occasions than Beard.

Scheyer has more conference championships and the same amount of final fours and also has a better win percentage, also taking his teams further in the tournament on more occasions than Beard.

Pearl has more final fours, more conference championships, and better win percentage as well.

Painter has the same amount of final fours, more conference championships and a better winning percentage as well.


Barnes has the same amount of final fours, more conference championships and around the same win percentage but has sustained success for 30 years of coaching.

Bennet retired but he won a championship, more conference championships and a better winning percentage.

You’re welcome!!! Feel free to dispute anything I said with FACTS and not opinions…. I’ll wait.

Same amount of final fours, you leave out the part where they all.lost theirs.

 

[Anon1751561414]

Most of you don't know anything about the kid. He won't need a UK background for "any job he wants" (e.g. selling cars somewhere). He's plenty smart and will do just fine without the UK basketball pedigree. His mom is an M.D. and I think pops is a pharmacist. He'll be just fine without UK.

Sarcastic UL troll saying a UK background will get you a job selling cars

 

[UK4Life#9]

Same amount of final fours, you leave out the part where they all.lost theirs.

Those facts slapped you right in the face didn’t they? Not even a rebuttal from you.