exactly, i dont know why posters insist we need to schedule 300 plus every year, rather odd
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exactly, i dont know why posters insist we need to schedule 300 plus every year, rather odd
You do realize you replace 2 early cupcakes with good teams we aren’t even watching selection show at 17-16.
Beating Q4 team is better than losing to a Q1.
Now I know you can’t predict injuries when you make schedule, but you know Pike will be tinkering with rotation.
If we ever schedule like you want and we lose and dig a hole we don’t get in every game thread I am going to hijack and reference in Alt music from 2010-23
You don’t have to literally never lose, but we consistently underperform against our OOC. You can lose to someone out of Temple and SHU but you aren’t supposed to lose both (or if you do, beat Miami). Last year we were terrible in the beginning of the season, in 2019-20 we lost to St. Bonnie’s and at Pitt neither of which were good.
I honestly would prefer a slightly better OOC (emphasis on slightly). But I also don’t think it should matter as the overall schedule is plenty strong.
Best thing in this thread, best line, goes to Coach:
Pike " thanks for this , you could have been talking Rodgers".
LOL...that's a really good line! Otherwise, I still can't get over we got screwed like this. GO RU!!
How many top conferences play 20 conference games each year? I know the SEC and B12 play 18. So our 2 extra conference games can easily be viewed as replacing two strong OOC games compared to the SEC and B12, right?
But the effin simpleton NCAA committee can’t think in those terms, can they?
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Illini fan here. I lurk on your board from time to time because I respect the Rutgers program and I find you guys knowledgeable. Anyways, just wanted to post that yesterday when Underwood gave his press conference regarding the Illini's tournament seeding, etc. , he finished up his press conference saying Rutgers should be in, that he was shocked they were left out. (wasn't prompted) Just wanted to share, haven't seen that mentioned.
Thanks, denmig...much appreciated. It seems that many RU fans (like me!) have an inferiority complex and, additionally, feel that many in our own league have little or no respect for our school or programs. Kind words like yours and Coach Underwood's help on days like yesterday. Good luck to the Illini... hope to see you playing in week 2...see you next year! GO RU! Go Illinois!
This year is certainly different though. We destroyed the low tier teams. Lost to temple on neutral court and SHU at home. Minn on road. They weren’t Lafayette debacles and the NET reflected it
We don’t need to schedule up …we need to go 10-1 against this type of schedue instead of 8-3
2019-2020….went 9-2
Should have gone 9-2/10-1
2020-2021….went 4-0
Should have gone 4-0
2021-2022….went 7-4
Should have gone 10-1
Cost us ..6 seed instead of 11 as last four in
2022-2023….went 8-3
Should have gone 10-1
Cost us …8 seed instead of 2nd team out
The schedule is fine …just win the damn games
2019-2020….went 9-2
Should have gone 9-2/10-1
2020-2021….went 4-0
Should have gone 4-0
2021-2022….went 7-4
Should have gone 10-1
Cost us ..6 seed instead of 11 as last four in
2022-2023….went 8-3
Should have gone 10-1
Cost us …8 seed instead of 2nd team out
The schedule is fine …just win the damn games
Good luck in the tourney, Underwood is one of my favorite coaches in the league. Met a lot of Illini fans at the tourney in Indy a couple years ago, good people (even if you do all hate our Paul).
It’s total horseshit. Swap in two top 20 teams, lose to them close enough that our Net ranking remains 40 like it ended up this year, and see if they put us in with 17 wins.
According to the committee’s logic, swap a couple of our cupcake wins for losing to a couple top 20 teams on the road, such that our NET ranking remained at 40 or so, and finishing at 17-16, would’ve gotten us in the tournament.
(Yeah, right.)
We should upgrade from playing teams ranked 300-368 to teams ranked 150-275 but I have no interest in adding games with Gonzaga etc
amazing the lengths many Rutgers fans will go to look for ways to blame us when we get outright hosed.
and we wonder why we get no respect
You might have to repeat this for those in the back of the class sleeping. The teacher is telling us how to pass the exam and we still have stubborn posters saying that's stupid or unfair so they are going to continue to study the wrong material.
We can improve our OOC schedule by a little so we’re in the 200’s, but nothing more than that. More important that we win those games. Win those games and nobody is even talking about SOS.
Don’t believe it . They just will change the narrative to fit their selections at the time
If that happens they are probably on the 5 line. Also never gets brought up that SHU was immediately after OSU debacle. Team was obviously affected
Just listened to the segment. Say what you want about Pike, the man is a total class act. Russo said everything I’m sure Pike wanted to say lol. I hope they run the table in the NIT and they get to Vegas and make the most of the sh*t sandwhich they were handed. One other thing, eff the selection committee.
They won’t admit it, but I believe the committee decided the B1G was getting 8 teams and then twisted themselves into a pretzel looking for a way to keep RU out to make that happen. To paraphrase the words of Clint Eastwood to Gene Hackman at the end of Unforgiven: “deserves got nothing to do with it.”
In 2019-20, both St. Bonaventure and Pittsburgh were both in that 100-150 danger range.... no upside to beating them, huge downside to losing to them. In 2021-22, DePaul was 103 and UMass was 178, also in that danger range.... but we still lost to Lafayette at 300+.
A part of me believes this, too. Figuring out how to squeeze a third B1G team into one of the regions would have taken a lot of additional work on their part, so they simply decided eight B1G teams is enough.
I don’t believe beating a Q4 team isn’t better than losing to a Q1 team.
Playing 20 conference games is not viewed as a positive by the committee and NCAA as it shuts out other conferences non-conference opportunities.
The committee makes it clear you cannot leverage your conference schedule and lock out other teams from tournament access/opportunity.
There rest of the power 5 teams now support the mid major teams against the big ten with that unfair advantage in mind.
Why do you always assume that we will always lose those games all the time?
Best of Luck,
Groz
Mike, I don’t think they had any interest in figuring out how to squeeze us in, I think their additional work was focused on finding a rationale for squeezing us out. Which pisses me off, but is what it is.
Didn’t we have players out with injuries for Miami? A
This x100 is my firm belief. Once PSU beat NW and MD and passed us in the metrics we were cooked. All those commissioners from smaller conferences were not letting in 9 B1G teams. They just constructed a narrative to fit that outcome. That’s why Nevada is in and 90% of bracketologists had the wrong call on RU. The objective criteria had us in.
Why would the commissioner of some 1 bid league care whether they let a mountain west team in vs a big ten one?
They have to protect each other from the big bad conferences hogging all the bids and all the money. They have no power other than this process.
I hope it’s not laziness in fitting in 3 B1G teams in one region, but wouldn’t be surprised
Big 10 hate because they disrupted the college landscape
So true... there is A LOT of B1G hate on social media.
It’s one year and one snub, but if this is a sign of things to come the landscape could change . When the big boys say F this and go off on their own
Me thinks this is the year the B1G flexes.