Playoff Projections

[btango]

I don’t think anyone has even suggested that they want East Surry to go east. Sbb simply stated that if Mitchell went 1AA, ES would push to the east. I think he’s right. Last year, ES was the second team west of the dividing line. Avery didn’t make the playoffs last year, but appear on track to make it this year. If Mitchell goes big, that’s one more 1AA team west of ES.

North Rowan was first? North Stanly was the most western school in the eastern regional?

Hard to know until the teams qualify. I will say this, subdividing does bring a lot of posts about where teams will go whether it be which subclass or which regional.

 

[Thunder_struck8712]

They will get seeded with wild cards....same thing happened last season and Bear Grass was the last seed 12 in the small 1a east....they won't be getting a bye week or home game.

I actually had wondered about that but thought that may have only been for schools in a split conference. Who knows anymore. It's so hard to keep up with all the playoff changes.

 

[Old Mountaineer]

I actually had wondered about that but thought that may have only been for schools in a split conference. Who knows anymore. It's so hard to keep up with all the playoff changes.

In a split conference like WHC were it's 1A/2A while you'll have a overall conference champion you also have the 1A champion and 2A champion who get automatic bids and are seeded as conference champions no matter where they finish in the overall conference as long as they have a .500 record or finish 3rd in the overall conference if not then they are seeded as at-large team. Plus if the first place and second place team in the split conference are from the same classification say both are 1A schools the second place team also gets an automatic bid. Also say if team A has a better overall record and is ranked higher then team B in the same classification and conference but team B has a better conference record then team A then team B get a higher seed, but team A can still get seeded higher then another team who finished higher in another conference. Then after all that the adjusted rankings kicks in then when they have thier 48 teams they take the ADM numbers and split into A & AA.

 

[SMC-Devil Dad]

North Rowan was first? North Stanly was the most western school in the eastern regional?

Hard to know until the teams qualify. I will say this, subdividing does bring a lot of posts about where teams will go whether it be which subclass or which regional.

Correct. North Rowan was in the West and North Stanley was in the East last year.

 

[Old Mountaineer]

Now don't take this as a fact , I was told today from someone who has been a volunteer staff member for years and has been a reliable source for some info, but again not official that this week the schools turn in thier ADM numbers to the NCHSAA and he believed Mitchell was turning in 501. If that holds up as correct that's a number that could go ether way.

Going to correct myself here, it was explained to me that schools don't report thier ADM to the NCHSAA that they report it to the district DPI and the NCHSAA pulls the numbers from them. Some probably already knew that but I didn't know how it worked. I was just told the number and just assumed who they reported too.

 

[btango]

Going to correct myself here, it was explained to me that schools don't report thier ADM to the NCHSAA that they report it to the district DPI and the NCHSAA pulls the numbers from them. Some probably already knew that but I didn't know how it worked. I was just told the number and just assumed who they reported too.

When you hear they have to get the numbers from Raleigh that is referencing DPI. Once Chapel Hill (NCHSAA) gets them they go through and combine or subtract out any students from the ADM. Example is five high schools are listed but in reality they are one high school (Olympic in Charlotte) or schools that have an educational program but the students are required to play sports at their home district school. It is a bit more complicated than what most folks think.

 

[Old Mountaineer]

When you hear they have to get the numbers from Raleigh that is referencing DPI. Once Chapel Hill (NCHSAA) gets them they go through and combine or subtract out any students from the ADM. Example is five high schools are listed but in reality they are one high school (Olympic in Charlotte) or schools that have an educational program but the students are required to play sports at their home district school. It is a bit more complicated than what most folks think.

I posted about the same thing on another site and if I had paid more attention to an article I read I won't have made the mistake of stating the schools turning in thier ADM to the NCHSAA. Someone pointed out that the school reports it to the DPI and the NCHSAA pulls I'll say the original ADM numbers off that. But yes according to a highschool OT article explaining the playoff system it doesn't stop there.

"The NCHSAA will receive average daily membership numbers (ADMs) from the North Carolina Department of Public Instruction. Once these numbers are received, the NCHSAA will make some adjustments to account for early colleges, academies and other special circumstances, then the numbers will be released to the public on the NCHSAA website. Sometimes there are small corrections that must be made after the numbers are released. This typically happens in the last couple weeks of the regular season."

Of course this makes me think were people are talking about the early ADM numbers these are the numbers the schools have turned into the DPI and wouldn't include any Early College students which depending on the EC could be added to the NCHSAA final ADM.

 

[Simmons Ratings]

Playoff projections 4 weeks out are a complete waste of time. Too many factors go into the power rankings and upsets will happen. Also the ADM's always have some surprises on which teams go A or AA, and they aren't usually released until the last week of the season.

 

[btango]

Albemarle has an early college on campus this year. The 42 early college students do not count in the AHS ADM which is 338. It is my understanding they can play sports at AHS so that will make their ADM for the NCHSAA 380.

Several years ago the numbers came out and Richmond Senior (note the "Senior) was about 1,800 which put them in small 4A. Richmond had four junior high schools at the time so those freshman had to be added to the number as the state uses 9-12 for realignment and subdividing. SC is going to a 9-11 setup to determine realignment which they do every two years. Seems to be sensible.