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S.W.A.I.N

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UW?!?! Guess he took a wrong turn once he got to Washington on his way to Gonzaga. Good luck, cuz they suck.
 

Shelby65

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3000 miles to finally find a ‘no tempo’ offense matching his skill set. If that falls through, Alaska A & M is the next potential suitor for Paul’s talents. They’re in the Midnight Sun Conferece with Nome U and Wrangel Island Tech.
 

Shelby65

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I’m happy that he left same as I was happy Myles Johnson left. When faced with not-starting, they left, assuredly by mutual agreement with Pikiell so he wouldn’t have to demote them.

I am sure as can be that if Myles wasn’t recruited over and were to keep the starter role, he would have stayed. I don’t buy the ‘for the ucla grad degree’ spin for one minute.

Same with Paul. He doesn’t fit here as a starter anymore.
 

csphi

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I’m happy that he left same as I was happy Myles Johnson left. When faced with not-starting, they left, assuredly by mutual agreement with Pikiell so he wouldn’t have to demote them.

I am sure as can be that if Myles wasn’t recruited over and were to keep the starter role, he would have stayed. I don’t buy the ‘for the ucla grad degree’ spin for one minute.

Same with Paul. He doesn’t fit here anymore.
So sad that people like you make up outright lies as to why Myles left

Hell of a narrative that you made up in your mind and portray it as the truth
 

Shelby65

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Yes, that is my firm opinion. It’s how he saved face. It’s terrific that he got the engineering masters, but the move was basketball-driven. Paul’s rationale was the same. Couldn’t stomach being a three year starter turned sub on their team. Saw the handwriting on the wall and left.

You are entitled to your opinion as well.
 

csphi

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Yes, that is my firm opinion. It’s how he saved face. It’s terrific that he got the engineering masters, but the move was basketball-driven. Paul’s rationale was the same.

You are entitled to your opinion as well.
No
It’s not an opinion
It is a fact that he left due to getting accepted to one of the worlds most prominent post graduate engineering programs in the world

You posted a narrative that you created in your head
 

Shelby65

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Sorry, you can’t know as fact even if he told you himself. That’s how saving face works.
 

Shelby65

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Mine is opinion. Same as yours. Proof is impossible. Again, a convenient, saving face PR out that Paul doesn’t have.

I think it’s preposterous to believe he would have left if there weren’t a budding superstar taking his starting role. Think about that. Without Cliff he’d have left anyway? Believe what you want.
 

csphi

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Mine is opinion. Same as yours. Proof is impossible. Again, a convenient, saving face PR out that Paul doesn’t have.

I think it’s preposterous to believe he would have left if there weren’t a budding superstar taking his starting role. Think about that. Without Cliff he’d have left anyway? Believe what you want.
Mine is a fact

Your is just another example of talking out of your backside, which you are prone to frequently do
 

Shelby65

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Can’t be fact. Again, convenient spin even if he whispered in your ear. That’s how people are, you know.

You do realize Paul said he wasn’t leaving for NIL, right ? But guess what.

To summarize, you think he still leaves if no one is taking his spot. Gotcha.
 
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csphi

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Can’t be fact. Again, convenient spin even if he whispered in your ear. That’s how people are, you know.

You do realize Paul said he wasn’t leaving for NIL, right ? But guess what.

To summarize, you think he leaves if no one is taking his spot. Gotcha.
Again dipshit

Had nothing to do with basketball

He was not going pro and had a once in a lifetime academic opportunity and wisely took it
 

Shelby65

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let’s move on from the direct Myles discussion, and please answer these two questions Y or N. Don’t cut and run. Be honest.

Do people sometimes spin / lie for favorable PR ?

Did Paul say NIL was not a factor in choosing his new school ?

I answer Y to both. What are your answers ? (I know you won’t answer, btw).
 

csphi

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let’s move on from the direct Myles discussion, and please answer these two questions Y or N. Don’t cut and run. Be honest.

Do people sometimes spin / lie for favorable PR ?

Did Paul say NIL was not a factor in choosing his new school ?

I answer Y to both. What are your answers ? (I know you won’t answer, btw).
I honestly think your parents fed you paint chips as a child

Paul is irrelevant

Myles WAS NOT going pro, so basketball was irrelevant

Again….he was accepted to one of the world’s most prestigious engineering grad programs…..a once in a lifetime opportunity….this was his future….basketball was not

You really are too f’ing stupid to exist….waste of time here
 

Shelby65

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I honestly think your parents fed you paint chips as a child

Paul is irrelevant

Myles WAS NOT going pro, so basketball was irrelevant

Again….he was accepted to one of the world’s most prestigious engineering grad programs…..a once in a lifetime opportunity….this was his future….basketball was not

You really are too f’ing stupid to exist….waste of time here
I knew you wouldn’t answer. Maybe I do know a little something about people, huh ? Want to try again ?
 

csphi

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I knew you wouldn’t answer. Maybe I do know a little something about people, huh ? Want to try again ?
There is no point in answering

But I’ll humor you…of course people spin, but in the case of Myles….THAT wasn’t the case

Spin it all you want….you flat out made up a false narrative and portrayed it as the truth

And as par for the course with literally every one if your posts….you’re full of ****
 

Shelby65

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Never said fact. You are saying fact. That makes you the fool.
Thanks again. Easy debate.
 

Eagleton95.99

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let’s move on from the direct Myles discussion, and please answer these two questions Y or N. Don’t cut and run. Be honest.

Do people sometimes spin / lie for favorable PR ?

Did Paul say NIL was not a factor in choosing his new school ?

I answer Y to both. What are your answers ? (I know you won’t answer, btw).
No
 

koleszar

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Sounds like this just came down to money, after saying it was about a lot of other things. I think we can now eliminate those other factors Paul cited. Many of us had that feeling he was throwing the fanbase under the bus to make himself look better.
 

Scangg

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It's widely known that Myles cared more about academics. He's a different kind of guy. Not every D1 player is like Myles that's for sure

If he cared that much about bball as Shelby said he probably would have been in better shape at UCLA. He looked semi checked out and like he put on some bad weight in the small sample size I saw of him there. I think he was over bball and ready to move on
 

hiwater

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No
It’s not an opinion
It is a fact that he left due to getting accepted to one of the worlds most prominent post graduate engineering programs in the world
...and be closer to home. He said as much.
 

MiloTalon13

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It's widely known that Myles cared more about academics. He's a different kind of guy. Not every D1 player is like Myles that's for sure

If he cared that much about bball as Shelby said he probably would have been in better shape at UCLA. He looked semi checked out and like he put on some bad weight in the small sample size I saw of him there. I think he was over bball and ready to move on
Myles seems like an extreme rarity - super smart, engineering type, who just happens to be 6'11", 250lbs and capable of playing basketball at the highest level.

How many high-major D1 basketball players are electrical and computer engineering majors in college and immediately go on to a graduate degree in engineering?
There are probably more NBA lottery picks
 

Shelby65

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It's widely known that Myles cared more about academics. He's a different kind of guy. Not every D1 player is like Myles that's for sure

If he cared that much about bball as Shelby said he probably would have been in better shape at UCLA. He looked semi checked out and like he put on some bad weight in the small sample size I saw of him there. I think he was over bball and ready to move on
Of course he cared about academics. Highly Laudable. A unicorn who checks most all the job boxes. But he cared about basketball too else why even suit up ? Surely he didn’t need the basketball scholarship, engineering could have covered costs his first grad school year season like the year after that. Being in the doghouse by season’s end, including the obvious big weight gain certainly made his decision to quit much easier.

I admire his academic prowess in balancing ball and school at RU. In his unique (unicorn) case, the UCLA masters adds nothing to his very high job marketability.

Last thing I will repeat: IMO if not for the certain demotion here he would not have left. No way. Can’t be proven, obviously. It doesn’t matter what he says, or what Paul says….max playing time matters to those who are accustomed to it and it’s simply a blow to their egos to stay with a lesser role. Myles had a convenient positive spin and Paul didn’t. But they left for the same actual reason IMO.
 
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RUPete

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I'll add that he also chose us when we weren't exactly the place to be for the state's highly rated recruits.
 

rucoe89

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Cool RE Washington. I'll get a chance to see him play. Hoops has struggled but from the campus and academics perspective a very good choice.
 

AZBlues

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Washington? Damn..he must have really hated it here. At least I’m pretty sure I’ll never see him play again.
Washington has been desperate for an experienced point guard... They brought in Sahvir Wheeler from Kentucky as a grad transfer, but he's a risk, at 5'9" or 5'10", and extremely injury prone.. It was mentioned in the podcast that he didn't have very good stats this year, but pretty sure it was because he was walking wounded during many of the games that he did play.

He's had injuries to his neck, shoulder, knee, and ankle over the past 2 years, including shoulder and ankle injuries this year that caused him to miss 13 games, including the ankle injury that caused him to miss the last 11 games of the season.. Wheeler had minor surgery around the beginning of March as well, although it apparently wasn't related to the ankle injury during the same period that caused him to miss the end of the season...

Assuming that Paul has committed there and ends up playing at Washington, he gives them another much needed option at the point. I'd imagine that they probably rolled out the red carpet for him.
 
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