POLK at PISGAH What do you think?

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Coach Ollis is back which makes this much more interesting!! He seemed to always have success against our little sister west of Canton.
 

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I think Pisgah bounces back from the Greeneville loss in a big way. They had nothing to lose but everything to gain from last night. They have been and will continue to grow as the season progresses. I think Pisgah comes out strong and wins this by several touchdowns. They're very balanced. Unless Nick Saban is coaching Polk next Friday night, I don't see a coach mattering too much in this one.
 

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It's not Saban but they do have the coach back that won a lot of games over there.Beat Tuscola four years in a row when they were good under Kiffer.They are going to be fired up for this one.Beating Pisgah would make their season.That being said thank the Bears will win but It could be close.
 

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I witnessed a valiant fight by our Bears this past Friday night with (as far I know) no injuries against a larger opponent. We came up short in points but not in heart and determination. Polk's schedule so far has been mediocre at best which reflects their undefeated record. It's a proven fact that one cant scientifically predict an outcome by previous wins or losses but one can get a feel of the talent and compare. Polk beat RS Central and so did we BUT Polk probably has never played a team like we did last week. I think we will come out stronger, smarter, and more determined than Polk and as a result, I'm confident that we will send them home with their first L on the season. Even though Polk may make a good showing this week, they wont be able to overcome the Black Bears. I'm calling it 28-14. Pisgah will take this one.
 
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I witnessed a valiant fight by our Bears this past Friday night with (as far I know) no injuries against a larger opponent. We came up short in points but not in heart and determination. Polk's schedule so far has been mediocre at best which reflects their undefeated record. It's a proven fact that one cant scientifically predict an outcome by previous wins or losses but one can get a feel of the talent and compare. Polk beat RS Central and so did we BUT Polk probably has never played a team like we did last week. I think we will come out stronger, smarter, and more determined than Polk and as a result, I'm confident that we will send them home with their first L on the season. Even though Polk may make a good showing this week, they wont be able to overcome the Black Bears. I'm calling it 28-14. Pisgah will take this one.
Please stop with the "larger opponent" non sense...pisgah has a larger enrollment..sounds clear to me you lost to a better team..that happens in athletics..just like Pisgah losing to South point or franklin losing to Shelby..both lost to better teams and eventual state champs..
 

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Please stop with the "larger opponent" non sense...pisgah has a larger enrollment..sounds clear to me you lost to a better team..that happens in athletics..just like Pisgah losing to South point or franklin losing to Shelby..both lost to better teams and eventual state champs..

I think he was talking about their size up front.At least we are playing two undefeated teams in a row while your Panthers are playing Owen and Carolina Wildcats.Talk about a tough schedule.
 
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I think he was talking about their size up front.At least we are playing two undefeated teams in a row while your Panthers are playing Owen and Carolina Wildcats.Talk about a tough schedule.
Lol how'd y'all fair against Murphy..ill give you Pisgah fans credit y'all die hard and blead black and red and I respect the commitment that y'all have ..we will have plenty of time to discuss franklin Pisgah...
 

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Lol how'd y'all fair against Murphy..ill give you Pisgah fans credit y'all die hard and blead black and red and I respect the commitment that y'all have ..we will have plenty of time to discuss franklin Pisgah...

You guys beat Murphy last year and how did you fair against my Bears?
Listened to coach Chappell on the radio show.He said that Pisgah and Franklin had both tried to schedule those two tough team in the WHC conference Mountain Heritage and Mitchell they refused.
 
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I think he was talking about their size up front.At least we are playing two undefeated teams in a row while your Panthers are playing Owen and Carolina Wildcats.Talk about a tough schedule.
That's exactly what I was talking about PB. Many of those guys could have dressed out for Bama. I smell a Franklin fan in our midst so I'm gonna go ahead and say this. If Franklin's coach had the gonads to book a team at that level, they would would have to add a digit to the scoreboard to contain the butt whooping Franklin would receive.
 
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That's exactly what I was talking about PB. Many of those guys could have dressed out for Bama. I smell a Franklin fan in our midst so I'm gonna go ahead and say this. If Franklin's coach had the gonads to book a team at that level, they would would have to add a digit to the scoreboard to contain the butt whooping Franklin would receive.
All the Pisgah franklin talk is pointless til we meet at memorial stadium in canton..actually hope both teams are undefeated in conf PLAY
 

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Wow. Franklin has 0-4 Owen up next, and the charter school powerhouse, the Carolina Wildcats following. The Wildcats are dominating the Independent Athletic League with a mind blowing 1-4 record.
 
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Wow. Franklin has 0-4 Owen up next, and the charter school powerhouse, the Carolina Wildcats following. The Wildcats are dominating the Independent Athletic League with a mind blowing 1-4 record.
Congrats you play a good non conf schedule..guess Madison and north buncombe weren't available..but enka is always loaded w talent and speed..lol
 

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Wow. Franklin has 0-4 Owen up next, and the charter school powerhouse, the Carolina Wildcats following. The Wildcats are dominating the Independent Athletic League with a mind blowing 1-4 record.
Oh and RS central was loaded to I guess
 

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Coach Ollis is back which makes this much more interesting!! He seemed to always have success against our little sister west of Canton.

IMO, Ollis is one of the top coaches in WNC. His teams are always prepared and he does an excellent job of exposing a teams weakness. Pisgah probably has a better team but he going up against Chappell is an interesting matchup. I am pretty sure he won 99 games in a 9 year span before he left Polk.
 

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Let's not forget about Swain and Rabun Gap. Surprised Franklin didn't schedule Hayesville, Andrews, and Rosman, too.
Actually just found out franklin reached out to Polk county along with every OTHER mountian school looking for games...guess Polk figured winning would be easier against Pisgah..in reality the truth is franklin is a very long drive for many schools and I know finding games isn't easy for Pisgah because other teams know a non conference game vs Pisgah (or Franklin) is probably a loss....the new six team league left both schools looking for 6 non conf games..hell I'm sure franklin tried playing tuscola but tuscola musta figured swain and smoky easier options...my hope is Pisgah and franklin enter week 11 both perfect in conference play and win or lose I hope we meet again in 3rd round of playoffs
 
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You guys beat Murphy last year and how did you fair against my Bears?
Listened to coach Chappell on the radio show.He said that Pisgah and Franklin had both tried to schedule those two tough team in the WHC conference Mountain Heritage and Mitchell they refused.
Yes I heard the exact same thing..i feel 99% sure franklin reached out to both Mitchell and heritage and I feel sure Pisgah would gladly play either
 

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Actually just found out franklin reached out to Polk county along with every OTHER mountian school looking for games...guess Polk figured winning would be easier against Pisgah..in reality the truth is franklin is a very long drive for many schools and I know finding games isn't easy for Pisgah because other teams know a non conference game vs Pisgah (or Franklin) is probably a loss....the new six team league left both schools looking for 6 non conf games..hell I'm sure franklin tried playing tuscola but tuscola musta figured swain and smoky easier options...my hope is Pisgah and franklin enter week 11 both perfect in conference play and win or lose I hope we meet again in 3rd round of playoffs

Going to be tough. Both playing at Hendersonville before meeting.
 

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hell I'm sure franklin tried playing tuscola but tuscola musta figured swain and smoky easier options..
Franklin and Tuscola did scrimmage right off the bat. I am not as sure as you are that the "easier option" idea is valid, but I will check on that. I am more persuaded that THS had an opening for only TWO available non-conference dates after getting thrown into that dreadful 9 team league. They cant play everybody, and Swain is a good draw both places, and competitive at the very least most years. (this year's 21-14 result is a good example and they will win their share against most anybody in WNC) Smoky Mt is a traditional rival just as much or more so as Franklin and CLOSER. The gate is comparable, so.....What would YOU do under those circumstances? At any rate it is my guess their schedule was not compatible with Franklin's given the limitations.
 
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hell I'm sure franklin tried playing tuscola but tuscola musta figured swain and smoky easier options..
Franklin and Tuscola did scrimmage right off the bat. I am not as sure as you are that the "easier option" idea is valid, but I will check on that. I am more persuaded that THS had an opening for only TWO available non-conference dates after getting thrown into that dreadful 9 team league. They cant play everybody, and Swain is a good draw both places, and competitive at the very least most years. (this year's 21-14 result is a good example and they will win their share against most anybody in WNC) Smoky Mt is a traditional rival just as much or more so as Franklin and CLOSER. The gate is comparable, so.....What would YOU do under those circumstances? At any rate it is my guess their schedule was not compatible with Franklin's given the limitations.
Lol I'd sure play swain or smoky and franklin travels very well
 

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Mule,
So you're telling me the WMAC is harder than the M6? Negative. Tuscola will finish 2nd in that Conference, unless Asheville can stop their O. Which I think is unlikely.
 

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I think the home vs away had a lot to do with Mitchell and Mountain heritage not ending up on the schedules. Mitchell had to come up with 5 new non conference opponents, and they all cant be away games... Id like to see Pisgah and Franklin make their way onto Mitchell's schedule in the future.
 

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Yes I heard the exact same thing..i feel 99% sure franklin reached out to both Mitchell and heritage and I feel sure Pisgah would gladly play either

Do you really believe mtn heritage is afraid of playing pisgah lol. I watch pisgah play murphy, heritage would destroy them. You pisgah guys need to face the truth pisgah is not very good.
 
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I think the home vs away had a lot to do with Mitchell and Mountain heritage not ending up on the schedules. Mitchell had to come up with 5 new non conference opponents, and they all cant be away games... Id like to see Pisgah and Franklin make their way onto Mitchell's schedule in the future.

Last Friday Mitchell played at home against Carolina Wildcats ,Mountain Heritage played at home against Hayesville.Pisgah went to Tennessee .Think we would have been glad to play either one of you at your place.
 

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Do you really believe mtn heritage is afraid of playing pisgah lol. I watch pisgah play murphy, heritage would destroy them. You pisgah guys need to face the truth pisgah is not very good.
If we played Mountain Heritage like we played Murphy .Your right.
 

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Mule,
So you're telling me the WMAC is harder than the M6? Negative. Tuscola will finish 2nd in that Conference, unless Asheville can stop their O. Which I think is unlikely.
Yes, I am telling you (not that I should have to) that across the entire athletic spectrum the WMAC is in fact harder to win across the board. It aint just about football.
 

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Well, since this is a FOOTBALL message board, then I think I'll go out on a limb and say yeah this is actually just about football...
 

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Well, since this is a FOOTBALL message board, then I think I'll go out on a limb and say yeah this is actually just about football...
OK, if you want to stick to football we can do that too. For the record, you are no Jimmy the Greek...You have NO idea where Tuscola will finish in this league, any more than I do. But what I DO know is given all the lobbying PHS did to stay in 2A and out of the WMAC when the realignments were being discussed I doubt I many Pisgah fans would be willing to change places with THS in terms of conference preference. if any at all. How's that?
 

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Umm WhoaJackass, I think you mixed up mine and wncfballfan's post... All I said was that I'm pretty sure this is a FOOTBALL message board, so we should stick to talking about football... With that being said, referring to his post, I could care less where Tuscola finishes in their conference. It has no concern to me because it will not effect Pisgah in any way, shape, or form. We beat you guys for the 5th year in a row and next year will be the 6th year in a row. Until that week comes up all the way into next year, you and little T are irrelevant to me and every other Pisgah fan. Go away now.
 
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I wouldn't worry about Franklin's willingness to schedule hard opponents. Franklin and Shelby were apparently in talks at one point, but Shelby doesn't have to travel all the way out here to get games so that didn't work out. I know I've heard from the coaching staff that most teams Franklin calls won't even talk about a game. I guarandamntee you that a homeschool team out of Pickens, SC was the last choice we took this year.
 

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OK, if you want to stick to football we can do that too. For the record, you are no Jimmy the Greek...You have NO idea where Tuscola will finish in this league, any more than I do. But what I DO know is given all the lobbying PHS did to stay in 2A and out of the WMAC when the realignments were being discussed I doubt I many Pisgah fans would be willing to change places with THS in terms of conference preference. if any at all. How's that?
Pisgah actually fell under the 2A guidelines at the start, so no lobbying was needed. THS was the one that begged and pleaded over and over to get a waiver to drop down to 2A. As of now, I don't see THS winning a conference championship in a major sport any time soon. Golf and swimming maybe, that's about it.
 

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Poor mule. Has to come over to Pisgah on the 2A board, because they're 0 threads created by Tuscola fans, or the teams they play. The only team in the WMAC that could compete in our conference this year is Reynolds. Pisgah, Franklin, and Hendersonville could beat ANY of the teams on Tuscolas schedule.
 
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I think the home vs away had a lot to do with Mitchell and Mountain heritage not ending up on the schedules. Mitchell had to come up with 5 new non conference opponents, and they all cant be away games... Id like to see Pisgah and Franklin make their way onto Mitchell's schedule in the future.
Actually franklin was absolutely willing to travel to Mitchell no doubt on that and Mitchell flat refused..you may wanna see franklin on Mitchell's schedule..i assure your coach wants no such thing...so as usual you will get BLOWN out by heritage then lose to murphy in 1a
 

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Yes I heard the exact same thing..i feel 99% sure franklin reached out to both Mitchell and heritage and I feel sure Pisgah would gladly play either
We scrimmaged Mountain Heritage this past summer. Did well I thought.
 

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OK, if you want to stick to football we can do that too. For the record, you are no Jimmy the Greek...You have NO idea where Tuscola will finish in this league, any more than I do. But what I DO know is given all the lobbying PHS did to stay in 2A and out of the WMAC when the realignments were being discussed I doubt I many Pisgah fans would be willing to change places with THS in terms of conference preference. if any at all. How's that?

Mule has said this several times.He evidently has no idea how Tuscola ended up in 3A .First he says we cheated no proof.In 2015 -Pisgah reported 988 students,The numbers used for realignment,2016 Pisgah reported 1014.Now for Tuscola 2016-1063,2015-1037.So Tuscola only gained 26 students the same as Pisgah.If they had used Pisgah and Tuscola numbers for 2016 instead of 2015 .Tuscola would still be 3A and Pisgah would be 2A.So I guess he thinks we lied about 2016 too.
He never mentions the fact that for years the school board kept changing the line to keep the numbers close.So Pisgah gained students every time to keep us both in same classifications.
Saying all of that is still not the reason Tuscola ended up 3A .This was the first time the NCHSAA changer the way they decided classification.Before it was divided by 25 % or one forth in each classification this time they changed it to 20% 4A ,30% 3A ,30% 2A ,20% 1A.So if they had not changed it we would both be 2A.When Pisgah and Tuscola reported their numbers neither school knew it would be done differently than before.So no they never cheated Mule .You want to blame someone blame the state.I know this is a long post and probably want make any difference to him but at least most will now know he's a liar when he claims we cheated.