Poll: Is the Transition Over
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I don't follow the recruiting that closely. I don't know what offers are out there, to whom, or who is visiting when and that sort of thing. There are however a group of people on this board with an agenda. They are going to pump sunshine up everyone's butt about every thing they can Mike Riley related. They are the same type of people who exclaim how awesome Nebraska is doing and act like Mike can do no wrong.
Clearly we all saw the games last year, what happened, and while most people will take a wait and see approach to how they do this year, there is a group hell bent on convincing everyone how great this staff is and so on. I don't know if you are part of that group or not, but you clearly 'like' the types of things those guys post.
You have to remember that for many, criticizing anyone on this staff is an immediate red flag, and this group will start in with their agenda, marginalizing, bullying, and name calling people. Those that have anything negative to say are immediately labelled as Bo apologists and called names. The only reason I can think of as to why they have this agenda, is they somehow think they can build unity this way.
The main reason I post those these things about the recruiting ranking is that in some small way, I know the administration is watching. I think it is a good thing to keep the pressure on them. To hold their feet to the fire. They need to be reminded when the class ranking starts slipping, and there is nothing wrong with that at all.
Whether it helps or not, I don't know, but it was good to see a commitment later in the day. Often things that are discussed on this board, end up in the newspaper and then end up as larger topics, so what is said here does matter in some small way. For those of you who want to defend the staff at every turn, that is your prerogative, but pretending everything is awesome and putting down others who have legitimate gripes or concerns is not how you build unity among the fan base.
Good grief. You could easily replace a few words here and you'd be describing yourself. Listen. Just stop the negative crap. The season hasn't even begun and you and your gang keep telling us that we need get "realistic" and get tough on our coaching staff and TA. Not one game has been played and you are like doing mental calisthenics getting ready to rip into the coaching staff.
Do us all a favor and just log off the boards and occupy yourself with any activity (other than Husker football). The season will be here soon enough and you and your goons can finally lay into Mike Riley and the rest those that wear an "N" on the sides of their helmets on their first mistake and that first loss of the season. Let the hate flow. I'm sure it feels real good just thinking about it. The very least you could do is disguise your agenda. You're so transparent. We haven't played one snap and you're just frothing at the mouth just waiting to say "I told you so!"
So you are keeping the pressure on administration by posting recruiting numbers who in turn puts pressure on the staff. You actually think it helped with a recent committment and these opinions show up in the paper as well?? Amazing game of connect the dots you play.
This is exactly what I am talking about. What part of my recruiting rank post offered a negative opinion? I haven't said anything about TA in a long time other than I would like to see a pro style QB in this offense. Where am I ready to rip into the coaching staff? Where do you get off calling people goons? What is with the name calling?
Your post is an exemplary example of the bullying and name calling I'm talking about.
I said I don't know if it helped or not, read what I wrote again. I do think in a small way, what is discussed here goes higher up. I know many reporters take topics discussed here and write stories that end up in the newspapers. The administration sees it eventually.
Nice try
What was TA's rushing totals in 2015...a dropped off isn't it?
According to your post..TA was going to improve regardless as it trended that way based upon his experience...he jumped only 2 points in completion% in 2015....TA improvement in completion% takes a natural progression, had he jumped to 60%, I would say that is coaching.
I actually think he can be a better QB under Riley....but if this season fails, it's on the coaches, which was my argument.
1.4 is an improvement but 1.9 isn't, gotcha. Everyone knows you don't believe what you posted, eat it next time.
Dispute what I said......did he improve his rushing number?
Just because you don't believe in our QB..don't try to cover it up with what you perceive as a slight of Riley.
You nor anybody else on this board knows what I think....
I don't dispute facts, and bury myself, like you. Never once did I sound off about rushing.
Show me where I don't believe in Tommy. Your attempt to change focus is short lived, without owning your inaccurate statement from earlier.
Too funny, considering your latest response.
Sure I will as soon you can prove how I don't believe what I posted...I'm sure you have facts to back that up.
Go ahead.
Common sense comes in to play. Tommy hadn't improved statistically every year under Pelini, that's a fact. Statistics have been posted to disprove your opinion.
I don't have an argument, I blew up yours, quickly.
Please provide facts that I don't believe what I posted....you don't even know what you arguing anymore..
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Your statistics don't prove anything, other than you are confused
...In 2013 Tommy didn't play a full season.....you forgot to mention that in your win% stat.....lol......based on history 2013 and 2014 would have been even... secondly didn't you post that his stats where on an upward trend during Pelini tenure, but now you say he didn't improve under Pelini...There your facts......that's what you posted...,so please disput your own facts.
In case you forgot:
GBRhuskers post:
Passing yards per game must not be a statistic either.
2013 - 107.3
2014 - 207.3
2015 - 252.5
51.9% freshmen year, 53.3% sophomore year, 55.2% junior year. And his last season, he attempted around 20% more than the previous season
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There isn't an argument on my end. However, you continue to post a lot of words, with no substance.
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Better win% in 2013, compared to 2014, is not an upward trend.
Better completion % in 2015, under Riley, compared to 2014, dispels your theory Armstrong didn't improve under Riley.
You may want to read your own words, and put them to use.
Soooo are we saying TA is good and getting better? We should figure this out now so we know how to treat this during the season.
I personally think we know what we are going to get with him… About half of his pass is being completed and probably about one turnover a game with some games where he will have two or three.
I personally think we know what we are going to get with him… About half of his pass is being completed and probably about one turnover a game with some games where he will have two or three.
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Lol...I hope it is since it was his 3rd year playing....what a post.
Now that I see your threshold....I understand the complexity for you in understanding yourself..you win.
Yeah, he improved under Pelini but not under Riley...debate over ..thanks for the posts......
So...bringing this full circle...
The poll results are pretty diverse. Lot's of differing opinions on this subject.
The poll results are pretty diverse. Lot's of differing opinions on this subject.
Speaking of complexity, first year as a starter in a new system, is lost on you.
Completion % enjoys your blindness.
Lots to digest in this thread.. Its been an interesting read... I need some clarification on what's being discussed?
1. Is the Honeymoon over for Mike Riley? Yes. This will be his most important year at Nebraska. If he follows up last year with another sub .500 season, he won't have a year 3.
2. Is the transformation complete? Sort of... I would say its about 60% complete.
3. Will the team be better in year 2? Yes, but that has as much to do with personnel and experience as it does with year 2 under the staff.
4. Will Tommy improve in year 2 under Riley? Every QB who played in year 2 under Mike Riley not only improved dramatically from a statistical standpoint, but they also saw a significant increase in wins. Interestingly enough, no first year QB under Mike Riley ever had the type of statistical season Tommy had in year one. However, one could argue his receiving corp was much deeper than anything Oregon State had in the past.
But there are about 10 different things being discussed here... Its a bit confusing.
1. Is the Honeymoon over for Mike Riley? Yes. This will be his most important year at Nebraska. If he follows up last year with another sub .500 season, he won't have a year 3.
2. Is the transformation complete? Sort of... I would say its about 60% complete.
3. Will the team be better in year 2? Yes, but that has as much to do with personnel and experience as it does with year 2 under the staff.
4. Will Tommy improve in year 2 under Riley? Every QB who played in year 2 under Mike Riley not only improved dramatically from a statistical standpoint, but they also saw a significant increase in wins. Interestingly enough, no first year QB under Mike Riley ever had the type of statistical season Tommy had in year one. However, one could argue his receiving corp was much deeper than anything Oregon State had in the past.
But there are about 10 different things being discussed here... Its a bit confusing.
I'm somewhat heartened by the stat that shows that the vast majority of teams under a new coach tend to improve, often dramatically, in Year 2.
I think if we come out of the gate beating the crap out of Fresno State and Wyoming and carry that momentum into Oregon, that will be a great sign. I don't even care if we lose to Oregon, if its a competitive game and we wind up losing by a field goal or touchdown, I'd be satisfied with that. I just need to see consistency, and we need to be beating everyone on our schedule save Ohio State.
Your answer to #1 above is pretty bold. I personally agree that this should hold true, but just not sure that such a move would be made. We seem to have become a bit soft on these matters.
Yep, differing opinions is a good way to describe it. I can appreciate different stances that people take. I could give reasons why the honeymoon should go on and why it should be over.
It's shaping up to be an interesting year.
Well what do you mean exactly then? You did say, "Yeah, he improved under Pelini but not under Riley."
@GBRhuskers listed some stats, but then you poopoo on them because not all stats were improved (even though you didn't specify all stats should have been improved).
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I would not satisfied with playing the ducks close, at home, and losing
I listed stats that proved he didn't improve...the most important stats for QBs imo are turnovers, TDs, Wins......did he improve in those areas?
Wait I'll give you completion %. ....
His efficiency rating dropped from 2014 to 2015, on what planet is that improvement?
Why did you even post .it was a complete waste of your own time.
Bo Pelini is a better QB coach than Mike Riley. Tim Beck is a better QB coach than Danny Langsdorf. Get with the times, no matter how crazy something sounds.
You have to understand that for humor to be funny there has to be some basis in truth.
You're upset with the stats GBRHUSKER chose but you get to use arbitrary stats as "most important"?
I'd understand if you listed the stats you thought were important in the beginning of your post, but you stated "no improvement", when in fact there were some in certain areas.
TD's and INT's are good stats for QB's but winning % not so much imo since football is a team effort and TA wasn't the sole reason for any of our losses last year (except maybe Iowa).
Okay, thanks? It's still a stat and an important one.
No one is saying that TA improved in every stat.
Why are you so mad? No reason to be disrespectful.
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