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SRURock24

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He does care about the players but a HC needs to be the boss, a bad a$$ boss. I've always believed that as the top dog you always have to have about ten minutes of "pure a$$hole" in reserve for those special moments
Nick Saban personified
 

HarrisburgDave

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There is a reason they call them "fans".

Any talk of spending tens of millions of dollars to replace a coaching staff is nuts.

It is minor league football, not life and death. Any University President or Athletic Director who would go to the University governing board with a plan to p**s away $60 million plus and spend a comparable amount, or more, on a new staff should be fired.
 

MacNit

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I mean he's been out of the game for a while, and he's no spring chicken. Having said that the guy is a proven winner at the college level. Having said that, NO WAY he's ever the HC at Penn State. Charles Huff is a very, very interesting na

IMO the Sandusky mess was engineered by the BOT (at the time) in order to get Joe out and gain power. At this point, I think the BOT would approve hiring the devil himself if that’d meet their goals.
Lots of people are paying a heavy price for that miscalculation by BoT - sadly a corrupt band of stooges.
 
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MacNit

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Running out on his “dream school” after 1 year. Taking a loaded #1 ranked USC team to unranked by the end of the year even while cheating. He cannot stop being a whiny *****. Constantly whining about opposing coaches. Constantly whining about the BCS and playoff system. Bitching about his own fans and student section. Cheats as a coach, cheated on his wife, was rumored to be involved with Saban’s daughter while at bama.

He has the personality and ethics of Steve Spurrier but without the winning. Thinner skin than Franklin and bigger douche than Brian Kelly.

He does recruit well and runs an exciting offense though.
Sounds like a great guy - lol. Hopefully we can do better.
 
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Bwifan

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There is a reason they call them "fans".

Any talk of spending tens of millions of dollars to replace a coaching staff is nuts.

It is minor league football, not life and death. Any University President or Athletic Director who would go to the University governing board with a plan to p**s away $60 million plus and spend a comparable amount, or more, on a new staff should be fired.
And spending $700 million when you are massively in debt already is not insane? Just wait until the ticket sales and suite sales fall off a cliff and now you can't pay off the stadium renovations
 
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Big_O

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I used to think that booing kids who were playing college ball on scholarship was wrong. And I'm from Philly. Now? They are pros. Have at it.
I stated that on this message board the year NIL money became permissible. Before they were students, but still receiving benefits in the form of tuition and room and board, but amateurs nonetheless. Now they are professionals and therefore should be held to a higher standard. When they don’t perform up to expectations or mail it in, then they deserved to be booed.

It’s harder to motivate people when they are fat and happy with money already in the bank, being compensated for past performance rather than current performance. Fraudklin has never been a big rah rah motivator and now with NIL he really doesn’t know how to light a fire under these complacent athletes because it suddenly became much harder.
 

HarrisburgDave

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And spending $700 million when you are massively in debt already is not insane? Just wait until the ticket sales and suite sales fall off a cliff and now you can't pay off the stadium renovations
Yes, spend tens of millions more in an attempt to correct your mistakes. Thats a good plan. Double down on stupid.
 

MacNit

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There is no more " recruiting home base".... those days are gone. Franklin's not getting fired and he ain't quitting. There's a 56 million dollar mountain nobody can figure out how to get over. I think the politically correct BOT gives him the rest of this year, and why not? With 5 games to go what's the point? Who cares? And Franklin will probably be here next year too. I got lambasted here a couple years ago for suggesting he is the worst game day coach in FBS. If you were one of the names listed in all these posts would you come to this s-it show? NFW. Penn State football as we old bastards knew it is dead and buried. We Are Irrelevant!!!
Tickets were almost free for homecoming…now you will have $1 tickets and huge amounts of empty seats.

it is beyond time to find a way.
 

ZouaveLion

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This team is very reminiscent of the 1992 outfit. They put everything into beating Miami in game 6 and lost while pretty much disintegrating after that loss. I ll never forget being in Provo Utah later that year and watching BYU just steamroll the PSU defense on the ground. They did put up a valient fight vs Notre Dame only to later completely fold in the infamous Blockbuster Bowl.
One difference is that team actually won 2 games after the Miami game, it s seems very realistic that this 2025 squad will close with 9 straight defeats.
Just a brutal season
 

lemonears

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This team is very reminiscent of the 1992 outfit. They put everything into beating Miami in game 6 and lost while pretty much disintegrating after that loss. I ll never forget being in Provo Utah later that year and watching BYU just steamroll the PSU defense on the ground. They did put up a valient fight vs Notre Dame only to later completely fold in the infamous Blockbuster Bowl.
One difference is that team actually won 2 games after the Miami game, it s seems very realistic that this 2025 squad will close with 9 straight defeats.
Just a brutal season
I'm thinking that they have a slight chance to beat Michigan State and a decent chance to beat Rutgers. Thus, they finish 3-9, or 4-8, or maybe they can crow if they finish 5-7.
 
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ApexLion

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This team is very reminiscent of the 1992 outfit. They put everything into beating Miami in game 6 and lost while pretty much disintegrating after that loss. I ll never forget being in Provo Utah later that year and watching BYU just steamroll the PSU defense on the ground. They did put up a valient fight vs Notre Dame only to later completely fold in the infamous Blockbuster Bowl.
One difference is that team actually won 2 games after the Miami game, it s seems very realistic that this 2025 squad will close with 9 straight defeats.
Just a brutal season

Very similar loss of a team by a coach.
 
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LionJim

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My Wisconsin
My superpower: I have a preternatural ability to block out the world. I’m in Venice and I went to bed as the game started, found out the score at 03:30 my time, focused on convergence properties of power series before drifting off to sleep. Good luck coping, hang in there, we’ve seen worse.
My Wisconsin grad brother-in-law is here in Venice too, I’m meeting him in a minute. I’ll bet anything he brings up PSU before he brings up Wisconsin.
 
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BobPSU92

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I stated that on this message board the year NIL money became permissible. Before they were students, but still receiving benefits in the form of tuition and room and board, but amateurs nonetheless. Now they are professionals and therefore should be held to a higher standard. When they don’t perform up to expectations or mail it in, then they deserved to be booed.

It’s harder to motivate people when they are fat and happy with money already in the bank, being compensated for past performance rather than current performance. Fraudklin has never been a big rah rah motivator and now with NIL he really doesn’t know how to light a fire under these complacent athletes because it suddenly became much harder.

Are performance-based incentives allowed under NIL. o_O or is the cash money predetermined/guaranteed?

The problem with performance-based incentives is that they could put additional and unnecessary pressure on the coach and could negatively impact the “integrity” of the game.

😞
 

Bwifan

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My Wisconsin

My Wisconsin grad brother-in-law is here in Venice too, I’m meeting him in a minute. I’ll bet anything he brings up PSU before he brings up Wisconsin.
Wisconsin had a brutal day yesterday as well. They are rethinking their coaching choice as well
 
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Said last week he should be fired. Or don’t you remember because you couldn’t stand up from the bar?

Why is it that POS like you get giddy when PSU loses? Real fan. Go drink another 6 pack.
No! Not going to except that. Say you’re sorry. I was right, u were wrong. You ride that coach ship til it’s gone how DARE you. (Guinness comes in 8 packs u silly)
 
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WestSideLion

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There is a reason they call them "fans".

Any talk of spending tens of millions of dollars to replace a coaching staff is nuts.

It is minor league football, not life and death. Any University President or Athletic Director who would go to the University governing board with a plan to p**s away $60 million plus and spend a comparable amount, or more, on a new staff should be fired.
Especially when it’s an inherited problem. Kraft has total insulation here since he neither hired Franklin nor sanctioned this millstone of a contract.
 

Nits1989

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Josh Heupel gains about 10 pounds a week (only kind of exaggerating) I don't think Meyer's weight is an issue
If you don't want him for other reasons I completely understand but the weight thing is odd--football coaches can be fat--see Andy Reid for starters.
You must have a weight problem and are sensitive about it.
 

BillDiehlNorstar

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People want me to be critical of Allar
Today is exactly why he was an idiot for returning. Not only did we already know the scheme didn't fit him but he lost Warren. There was nothing to gain from returning. He'd have gone in the top 50 last year without question and now, depending on the seriousness of the injury, has taken cares what you do.

Why aren't you reading anything?
I've never once said anything negative about him. If he was 15 years younger everyone would be after him. All I said is no major program is hiring a will be 65 year old coach.

Highly doubt it would happen and Cignetti might not want the job now. He seems to be doing fine where he is. Maybe Manny would come back.

He’s not going from Indiana to PSU. Plus the king says cignetti’s no good because he’s never beat anybody.
He may. They are still Indiana in terms of fan base resources etc …and isn’t he from Pittsburgh? We can dream.
 

KingLando

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You must have a weight problem and are sensitive about it.
Not at all--I just think it's idiotic to think his weight impacts his coaching
Should KC fire Andy Reid? Should Tennessee fire Heupel?
Sounds like you're angry he's "fat" and can still bang coeds.
 

psuno1

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My Wisconsin grad brother-in-law is here in Venice too, I’m meeting him in a minute. I’ll bet anything he brings up PSU before he brings up Wisconsin.
Talk about a bad hire Fickell was a terrible hire, should have giving Leonard the job.
 
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KingLando

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This team is very reminiscent of the 1992 outfit. They put everything into beating Miami in game 6 and lost while pretty much disintegrating after that loss. I ll never forget being in Provo Utah later that year and watching BYU just steamroll the PSU defense on the ground. They did put up a valient fight vs Notre Dame only to later completely fold in the infamous Blockbuster Bowl.
One difference is that team actually won 2 games after the Miami game, it s seems very realistic that this 2025 squad will close with 9 straight defeats.
Just a brutal season

We could lose out (ideally so they feel obligated to fire Franklin and pay the money)
But I mean, they could easily win a few games. Every loss has been by a score. Without Drew, they may be forced to use Allen appropriately.
Its like the Steelers--they're not good but they'll probably win more game than they should
Hell, watch us go 4-8 beating Nebraska and then really piss off the fans.
 
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MtNittany

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Are performance-based incentives allowed under NIL. o_O or is the cash money predetermined/guaranteed?

The problem with performance-based incentives is that they could put additional and unnecessary pressure on the coach and could negatively impact the “integrity” of the game.

😞
If they have a bad week and don't get their full NIL they can always bet on the NFL on Sunday to make up for it.
 
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m.knox

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Fickell looked good at cincinnati. A lot of people figured the success would transfer to WISKY. o_O . What went wrong?

Good question. I think for starters, they don't have a QB. Not sure if it were Alvarez or someone else, but Fickell was criticized for not "dominating the state" when it comes to the one natural resource the state does have.... "big ol' hoss." There was a reason why Wisconsin had traditionally been a strong run team.

I kind of follow them as my kid goes there.
 
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Lil Nicky Scarfo

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What angers me about the player celebrations is not showing emotion-- I'm generally fine with that, and this was one area where Paterno was far too strict, IMO.

But when you make a stop on 2nd down, and start celebrating WHILE YOU ARE LOSING THE GAME, that's just ridiculous. It's not only classless, it makes you look like a friggin' idiot.
I hate the celebrating when it is done, then the celebrating jerkoff is out of position for the next play because the other team rushes to get set for the next down.
 

MacNit

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If an email went out to all alumni soliciting funds to buy out CJF? What kind of response would there be. It would only require $50 per and just a little extra from folks like Pegula.

Why is this unrealistic? We all get these and probably contribute at least that much to our graduating major program.
 
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