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Mntneer

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I don’t agree. I do however think this report (amongst other things) proves that Comey was a bad FBI Director whose ship was not tight at all. It proves he deserved to be fired, imo.

So now you don't have obstruction or collusion on Trump... then why are we still investigating?
 

dave

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I mean those early leaks from DOJ officals summaries are all some people needed to see. They are convinced there is nothing there and too lazy or stupid to read the report and learn the whole story.
 

Boomboom521

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So now you don't have obstruction or collusion on Trump... then why are we still investigating?
And who said there’s no collusion? It’s never going to bring down his Presidency, but knowing what he is capable of is important.
 

Mntneer

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And who said there’s no collusion? It’s never going to bring down his Presidency, but knowing what he is capable of is important.

If they had evidence of collusion... we'd know by now. Mueller going after an obstruction charge (must be watching Billions), or a perjury trap.

Simple fact is... this proves that Comey needed to be fired and Trump was MORE than justified in canning his sorry ***. So you don't have obstruction... there's been ZERO proof of collusion.... so what's left?
 

Boomboom521

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If they had evidence of collusion... we'd know by now. Mueller going after an obstruction charge (must be watching Billions), or a perjury trap.

Simple fact is... this proves that Comey needed to be fired and Trump was MORE than justified in canning his sorry ***. So you don't have obstruction... there's been ZERO proof of collusion.... so what's left?
I don’t agree. I’m not saying there was collusion....I’m just saying that getting an accurate picture of what the Trump campaign did and didn’t do with regards to a major email hack and a foreign state operations of influence and possible tampering takes a lot of time....to be thorough....and we don’t know at all yet what information that is relevant on those issues Mueller has or is using to apply pressure on people that could provide more information.

But yes.....if Trump had said the reason he fired Comey was gross incompetence....there would be no case of obstruction against him on that matter. However, Trump said he was considering the Russia probe when firing Comey, which should open up a possible obstruction investigation, imo.

Trump should just learn to keep his big mouth shut.
 

Mntneer

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I don’t agree. I’m not saying there was collusion....I’m just saying that getting an accurate picture of what the Trump campaign did and didn’t do with regards to a major email hack and a foreign state operations of influence and possible tampering takes a lot of time....to be thorough....and we don’t know at all yet what information that is relevant on those issues Mueller has or is using to apply pressure on people that could provide more information.

But yes.....if Trump had said the reason he fired Comey was gross incompetence....there would be no case of obstruction against him on that matter. However, Trump said he was considering the Russia probe when firing Comey, which should open up a possible obstruction investigation, imo.

Trump should just learn to keep his big mouth shut.

It's been over a year since Mueller was appointed, it's been since the election that accusations were flying around about Trump and Russia.

It's time to **** or get off the pot, but I would wager Mueller can't, and he knows it. At this point, he's going to gobble up the low hanging fruit, maybe go for a perjury trap and call it a day.
 

79eer

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It's been over a year since Mueller was appointed, it's been since the election that accusations were flying around about Trump and Russia.

It's time to **** or get off the pot, but I would wager Mueller can't, and he knows it. At this point, he's going to gobble up the low hanging fruit, maybe go for a perjury trap and call it a day.
Mueller = Irrelevant, ........... & has been for a long, long time, concerning Trump.
 

Boomboom521

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It's been over a year since Mueller was appointed, it's been since the election that accusations were flying around about Trump and Russia.

It's time to **** or get off the pot, but I would wager Mueller can't, and he knows it. At this point, he's going to gobble up the low hanging fruit, maybe go for a perjury trap and call it a day.
Ok. But that’s all speculation based on a timeline in your mind, and not at all based on any admission of lack of evidence by anyone involved with the investigation.

A lot of money to track down. If there was coordination or collusion on any level of the Trump campaign, I doubt they were dumb enough for it to be outlined in an email. Any gotcha information would come in the form of a flipped witness, imo. Otherwise it’s just a very comprehensive analysis of actions of campaign personnel that can give the American public a clear picture of Russia - Trump “synchronized strategy”.

What’s it matter? You’re getting your GOP financial agenda implemented. Trumps gaining traction within the party....his base isn’t deterred. Other than the money — and if that’s a real issue to you, then why not jump all over Trump (Mr. “I’d be too busy for golf”) for spending crazy amounts of taxpayer funds for trips to Mar a Lago at such frequency?

I’m a taxpayer. I want to know the extent of Putin’s reach in our nation’s political environment — esp with regards to influential political players in both parties.

The Clinton foundation investigation is equally as important, imo. And I will not expect that probe to be ended by any certain timeframe either.
 

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I’ve been off the radar all day. I know the IG report was due out today. Did that McCabe dude get arrested?
 

Mntneer

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Ok. But that’s all speculation based on a timeline in your mind, and not at all based on any admission of lack of evidence by anyone involved with the investigation.

A lot of money to track down. If there was coordination or collusion on any level of the Trump campaign, I doubt they were dumb enough for it to be outlined in an email. Any gotcha information would come in the form of a flipped witness, imo. Otherwise it’s just a very comprehensive analysis of actions of campaign personnel that can give the American public a clear picture of Russia - Trump “synchronized strategy”.

What’s it matter? You’re getting your GOP financial agenda implemented. Trumps gaining traction within the party....his base isn’t deterred. Other than the money — and if that’s a real issue to you, then why not jump all over Trump (Mr. “I’d be too busy for golf”) for spending crazy amounts of taxpayer funds for trips to Mar a Lago at such frequency?

I’m a taxpayer. I want to know the extent of Putin’s reach in our nation’s political environment — esp with regards to influential political players in both parties.

The Clinton foundation investigation is equally as important, imo. And I will not expect that probe to be ended by any certain timeframe either.

For the most part Trump has performed better than I originally expected. Economy is doing extremely well. Got a decent tax cut, even though I was opposed to some of it. Outstanding SCOTUS appointment. Finally negotiating from a position of strength with our "allies". And read an article where he may even support relaxing laws on Mary Jane.

His "budget".... Was crap. His mouth... needs to shut.

This "Russia" stuff.... we're playing into their hands with our reactions to it.
 

atlkvb

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Horowitz’s job was never to prosecute. How deranged are you?

Where is the collusion proof, by the way?

Or just what was the "security threat" posed to the Trump campaign that it had to be placed under surveillance? Why didn't they tell him?
 

atlkvb

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Well other than that collusion. He means collusion collusion.

I think we're looking for the collusion that colluded to guide votes away from Hillary and towards Trump are we not? I mean there was NO WAY Trump got those votes or won those electoral states on his own. Not according to the Left. He colluded with Russians to "trick" voters into hating on Hillary and instead voting for him, even though everyone knows it was really Hillary they wanted to vote for.

Ah but those sneaky colluding Russians working in secret with that Orange colored huckster stole their honest votes for Hillary and switched 'em to Trump!

That's what Mueller will prove...just you wait.:confused:
 

atlkvb

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Lol. So theres nothing.

That was the pre collusion to the actual collusion that colluded the actual voting collusion that resulted in colluding Hillary votes away from her and to Trump. Then they colluded (Russians and Trump) to hide their collusion by colluding to make the Democrats look like they were actually the ones colluding to make Trump look like he was a colludee instead of the actual colludor. It was all colluded together and then denied as collusion but Mueller will get to the bottom of it.:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 
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dave

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That was the pre collusion to the actual collusion that colluded the actual voting collusion that resulted in colluding Hillary votes away from her and to Trump. Then they colluded (Russians and Trump) to hide their collusion by colluding to make the Democrats look like they were actually the ones colluding to make Trump look like he was a colludee instead of the actual colludor. It was all colluded together and then denied as collusion but Mueller will get to the bottom of it.:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
The game for muhrussiatards is simple...

MUHRUSSIATARD: Lots of collusion and obstruction for sure.

INTELLIGENTPATRIOT: Got any evidence at all to back up that alligater mouth?

MUHRUSSIATARD: I am waiting for the investigation to end so lets not jump to conclusions.

SMARTFRIENDSOFINTELLIGENTPATRIOT: (Laughing)
 

atlkvb

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The game for muhrussiatards is simple...

MUHRUSSIATARD: Lots of collusion and obstruction for sure.

INTELLIGENTPATRIOT: Got any evidence at all to back up that alligater mouth?

MUHRUSSIATARD: I am waiting for the investigation to end so lets not jump to conclusions.

SMARTFRIENDSOFINTELLIGENTPATRIOT: (Laughing)

That about sums up the level of discourse on this board with most Lefists.

"You're a liar!"

OK prove it.

"I don't have to, you just are!"
 

dave

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That about sums up the level of discourse on this board with most Lefists.

"You're a liar!"

OK prove it.

"I don't have to, you just are!"
Replace liar with Nazi or racist or neocon. They dont know too many words.