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atlkvb

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Neither of those statements were wrong based on the IG report. Of course you didnt read it.

If the FBI and the DOJ were not engaged in an effort to get rid of Trump, could it successfully be argued that they were trying to save his campaign?

Does anyone on the Left seriously want to try to make that argument?
 

dave

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If the FBI and the DOJ were not engaged in an effort to get rid of Trump, could it successfully be argued that they were trying to save his campaign?

Does anyone on the Left seriously want to try to make that argument?
According to the IG report the actions of the investigators cast doubt on the entire investigation.
 

atlkvb

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According to the IG report the actions of the investigators cast doubt on the entire investigation.

I just want someone on the Left to show me in the IG's report who the pro Trump people were? Did you see them Dave?
 
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LMAO!

I expect this place to be almost a ghost town once the IG report of Clinton’s investigation rolls out. Add the 2016 Campaign/election IG report later in the year and whatever Huber is doing, ooof.

Trump just threw the gaunlet down today. Full on assault of what transpired.

Well, so much for this IG being such a man of highest integrity, blah, blah, blah. Hear the same about Mueller and Comey. Seems ALL this Deep State are cut from the same cloth. Releasing as the president enters into the NOKO meetings is an attempt to bury as much of it as possible. Totally a defensive move to take heat off Justice/FBI. Another Government disgrace and submitting to the wishes of the ones actually being investigated but still with powers. Need a COMPLETE house cleaning of both areas to purge the top echelon of these corrupt organizations---NOT the field workers, who are also outraged, it appears.
 
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None of those statements were inaccurate. You obviously did not read the report.


That report never said the FBI and DOJ were weaponized for political purposes. Just stop it. You don't realize how big of a fool you look like. The report never said the FBI acted in a politcally motivated manner.

So yes, you and dumbdave were both wrong...as always.
 

dave

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I just want someone on the Left to show me in the IG's report who the pro Trump people were? Did you see them Dave?
Definitely none of the people involved in the Hillary email investigation. A lot of folks seemed non political but they were resigned to the fact that their investigation was for not because they new a political solution had already been determined.
 

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I can't link to it now because I'm on this stupid phone but when I get home later today I will find for the board the thread where this poster boldly predicted we would "all soon see" the obvious collusion between Trump and the Russians.
 

dave

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That report never said the FBI and DOJ were weaponized for political purposes. Just stop it. You don't realize how big of a fool you look like. The report never said the FBI acted in a politcally motivated manner.

So yes, you and dumbdave were both wrong...as always.
Cuntrywrong again. Go figure.
 

TarHeelEer

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That report never said the FBI and DOJ were weaponized for political purposes. Just stop it. You don't realize how big of a fool you look like. The report never said the FBI acted in a politcally motivated manner.

So yes, you and dumbdave were both wrong...as always.

This is as strong of language you will ever get with an IG report.

 

Boomboom521

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This is as strong of language you will ever get with an IG report.

And lest we forget...

Lead agent....but not the absolute decision maker. From what I’ve read in the report body, midyear was pursued properly, with only the lack of aggressive acquisition of Clinton personnel equipment being questionable in its thoroughness. While the decision to flex more attention towards the Russia investigation might be seen as a product of bias, the IG didn’t declare it to be the only reason obviously. The potential damage of Russian influence at the time of this decision is worthy of recognition in this analysis. At that time, it wasn’t guaranteed that voting systems would not be hacked, or that more email hacks could be possible. For the FBI to divert attention to this threat isn’t ridiculous, imo.
 

TarHeelEer

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Lead agent....but not the absolute decision maker. From what I’ve read in the report body, midyear was pursued properly, with only the lack of aggressive acquisition of Clinton personnel equipment being questionable in its thoroughness. While the decision to flex more attention towards the Russia investigation might be seen as a product of bias, the IG didn’t declare it to be the only reason obviously. The potential damage of Russian influence at the time of this decision is worthy of recognition in this analysis. At that time, it wasn’t guaranteed that voting systems would not be hacked, or that more email hacks could be possible. For the FBI to divert attention to this threat isn’t ridiculous, imo.

The FBI knew Bryan Pagliano was lying to them. Instead of a search warrant and grabbing everything, the defacto methodology used any other time, including Trump's associates, they decided to give him immunity.
 

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The FBI knew Bryan Pagliano was lying to them. Instead of a search warrant and grabbing everything, the defacto methodology used any other time, including Trump's associates, they decided to give him immunity.
Yeah, I don’t see any intent to break the law. I don’t know why immunity in this type of situation is a horrible thing.
 

TarHeelEer

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Yeah, I don’t see any intent to break the law. I don’t know why immunity in this type of situation is a horrible thing.

You just asked me about Stone. Do you not see the hypocrisy in how the feds have dealt with the two candidates and their staffs?
 

Boomboom521

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You just asked me about Stone. Do you not see the hypocrisy in how the feds have dealt with the two candidates and their staffs?
I see bias in handling Clinton. I think they determined criminal intent before investigation....although I agree there wasn’t criminal intent, I think it should be investigated.....you never know with the Clintons. I still wouldn’t call the DOJ/FBI a political weapon. I think the same would have been done for Rice if she was running for President under the same circumstances.
 

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I see bias in handling Clinton...I still wouldn’t call the DOJ/FBI a political weapon. I think the same would have been done for Rice if she was running for President under the same circumstances.

Well, this report wasn't about the Trump investigation, so they certainly can't determine "used as a political weapon" out of this report. I jumped the gun. However, the writing is on the wall, particularly with the synopsis of Strzok posted above.

I think they determined criminal intent before investigation....although I agree there wasn’t criminal intent, I think it should be investigated.....you never know with the Clintons.

You think?


By the way, lolz, Obama is hands off, but he makes declarations about the investigation yet to come.
 

Boomboom521

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Well, this report wasn't about the Trump investigation, so they certainly can't determine "used as a political weapon" out of this report. I jumped the gun. However, the writing is on the wall, particularly with the synopsis of Strzok posted above.



You think?


By the way, lolz, Obama is hands off, but he makes declarations about the investigation yet to come.

I can see the desire to not pursue criminal charges, when one believes that Clinton was just careless and incompetent in this mess. I don’t, however, think that should prevent the investigation from examining if there actually was criminal intent.

I think the foundation investigation should cover any intent in this mess, if there actually was a desire by Clinton to shield official communications from oversight.
 

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I can see the desire to not pursue criminal charges, when one believes that Clinton was just careless and incompetent in this mess. I don’t, however, think that should prevent the investigation from examining if there actually was criminal intent.

I think the foundation investigation should cover any intent in this mess, if there actually was a desire by Clinton to shield official communications from oversight.

Now do Kristian Saucier.
 

atlkvb

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She hid the server because she didn't intend for anyone to know she actually had it.

She lied about the server because she didn't intend for anyone to realize she had broken the law by using it.

She destroyed the material on the server because she didn't intend for anyone to realize what she had on there was classified.

She lied about the classified material because she didn't intend to convince anyone that she wasn't aware she violated both the law as well as her oath of office.

Comey didn't recommend prosecuting her because he didn't intend for her to lose the election.

None of the other players in this Caper didn't intend for us to find out about any of this information. Trump winning the election screwed it all up, and we've been dealing with Russians and "collusion" ever since!

I think all Americans fed up with this nonsense should intend to vote this coming November.
 

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Shouldn’t have been charged, imo.

But he was, convicted, and spent over a year in prison. Why? He wasn't Hillary.

"To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences". She faced none.
 

dave

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In one case a sailor took a photo inside a classified sub. Never transmitted the picture from his phone vs. Sending, receiving and storing classified state secrets over an unsecured medium.

Both are crimes. One was prosecuted. One was given a wink and a nod. Hillarys crime was more along the lines of David Petreaus and IMO should have been handled in a similar fashion. Leave govt. Be gone. No clearence. By now.