Ravens to honor Ray Rice Sunday
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Just saw that at the same time
If anyone has atoned for his sins & worked hard to right his wrong it's Ray Rice.
Not to mention, paid his price. I hope Ray can come back to Rutgers games with his head held high
Rice's "Hey Diddle Diddle" play got Raven to the SB
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He has.
His images were also restored in the Halr Center a number of years ago & he attended the festivities when Schiano had his press conference announcing his return to Rutgers. I was able to get a photo with him
Good to know. I’m surprised the woke left in our student body didn’t stage a protest.
Though to be fair those students probably don’t watch football as it would be a visual micro aggression. LOL!
Had to have been Ash because I haven't been in the Hale Center since Greg came back
It’s not about avoiding scrutiny, it’s about pushing back against wokeness and giving credit to a great player who has paid his price
Well it'd be nice if they also admitted to supporting him being blackballed across the NFL.
The players don't need the added media coverage and questions that are gonna come with this. They're trying to win a Super Bowl, not honor a dude from the past that they didn't play with.
I believe in atonement and forgiveness, but the reality is he did exactly what he was accused of and that has nothing to do with being "woke".
The guy viciously punched his then fiancee in the face, knocking her unconscious. Loved Ray Rice as a Rutgers player but he brought what happened to him on himself. Everyone must be personally responsible for their actions. What does being woke have to do with it?.
Listen dude. I was friends with him in college and after, my son still wears his jersey to RU football and bball games, but it is not really about "woke culture". He unloaded on his fiance.
He has made up for his mistakes, and done some amazing things, but do you have to be woke to be against absolutely gobsmacking a woman in the face?
The reality is he paid the price for what he did and did everything in his power to right the wrong he done.
Yes there are those that have no forgiveness in their hearts, but they usually are those that don't care about anyone but themselves or only forgive those that can do something for them.
Rice might just be the man to take the pressure off the Raven players by teaching them some things that might help them keep out of trouble and not be so full of themselves they don't think when something bothers them and they handle it poorly .
Ray Rice is a man that done just that and now is going out of his way trying to keep others from making the mistakes he made.
Rice will not be a distraction, he'll be an example of why they need to think before they react and that could carry over to the games and penalties players get by reacting to something without thinking of the consequences.
Teams honor past players all the time, it gives current players a sense of pride belonging to a team that had great players on it and hopefully one day they will be treated as one of the greats.
She had no injuries and charges couldn't even be brought successfully. They married a few weeks later and are still married with kids.
Nobody cared about Rice event (being so common and with many players having done worse) until highly edited video came out and then media loved it. Unedited vid showed wife hitting Rice and spitting at him. Not a justification but high level ball players tend to be wound-up at a certain point and spitting at them isn't advised. Sure he targeted a woman but he would have hit LT just the same.
More truth is that Rice got in a fight with a security guard before elevator drama (I know people who saw it there). Consider also that Rice was arguing and spitting at opposition players in 2013 Ravens games. That fact taken along with coach Harbaugh saying Rice gained ten pounds of muscle (and not fat) in a couple months tells me Rice was doping on something (no doubt to help heal the hip injuries ruining his 2013 season). I saw enough teammates in college have roid-rage to know its real (and a reason I would never juice).
If every NFL player fighting with girls was videoed the horrors would never stop so I'm not going to get high judging Rice. He was sorry and thats that
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I'm glad he's atoned for what he did and hope he's happily married and has a great family life. I hope RU welcomes him back and I have no issue with the Ravens honoring him. My comment was more in response to this being some sort of woke issue.
She had no injuries? He was on steroids and this was roid rage? Lots of NFL players do this? Quite a response.
She had no injuries? He was on steroids and this was roid rage? Lots of NFL players do this? Quite a response.
Rice was originally charged with "simple assault" but then charges were upgraded to "aggravated assault."
The bulk of difference was that the former applied to "injuries" and the latter to "serious injures."
Janay had no bruises, black eyes, stitches, broken bones etc.
Along with no serious injuries was fact that Janay didn't want charges and was defending Ray.
Rice was offered a plea deal but he declined and then charges were dropped
"On September 9th, Janay released the following statement in a now private post on her Instagram page.
"I woke up this morning feeling like I had a horrible nightmare, feeling like I'm mourning the death of my closest friend. But to have to accept the fact that it's reality is a nightmare in itself. No one knows the pain that the media & unwanted options from the public has caused my family. To make us relive a moment in our lives that we regret every day is a horrible thing. To take something away from the man I love that he has worked his *** of for all his life just to gain ratings is horrific. THIS IS OUR LIFE! What don't you all get. If your intentions were to hurt us, embarrass us, make us feel alone, take all happiness away, you've succeeded on so many levels. Just know we will continue to grow & show the world what real love is! Ravensnation we love you!"
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I think your response is very positive and well thought out. Unfortunately, I don't think other people will agree and it will become more of a circus once awareness grows after the game.
Like I said before, I'm all for him atoning and getting a second chance.
The dude clubbed his finance .
Yeah sorry
If this was some other guy that took classes at Rutgers , no one would care
Any person would not want their daughter treated that way. And wouldn’t forgive domestic violence no matter what he does.
But yes the Louisville win and Torino bowl were great
Is this how you define wokeness? If so, count me as woke for being against knocking a woman unconscious.
That said, I also believe in the power of forgiveness. I do believe that RR has found his inner wokeness - as you defined it.
think it's great how he changed things around and he and his wife put the past behind them. I also think it's great that he can move forward, has done amazing things and believe he has paid for this and made the best of his mistake/happenings. Only his wife and he know if he's changed from this 'one time' incident. Not my business as she has apparently forgiven him and all that.
that said, not a good move imho and would not support RU doing this.
that said, not a good move imho and would not support RU doing this.
very well said but take issue with the 'no forgiveness in their hearts' bit. He didn't harm you, me anyone that you know well so what is to forgive? I personally wish him and his family well but don't need to forgive anything as he did no harm to me or mine. I am personally against praising men who hit women or do other horrendous things so not a fan of this move.
I think it's foolish to open one self up to this type of scrutiny knowing what it could entail. I'm surprised the Ravens are doing this.
Lol @ the triggered libs. I said what I said.
Wokeness = wanting to cancel a male (and yes I’m being specific about gender bc if Ray was a woman, no one would have cared) for a transgression made in his past that he has atoned for.
Wokeness = wanting to cancel a male (and yes I’m being specific about gender bc if Ray was a woman, no one would have cared) for a transgression made in his past that he has atoned for.
Wf are you talking about ??
The only reason people cared was because he was a football player
If that was some random guy or girl from absecon that decked their fiancée no one would care
What Ray has done to remedy is to be commended. What he originally did to his fiancee (wife) is not. It was up to her to forgive any atonement and move forward. The rest of us are entitled to our respective opinions based on our respective personal views...without being persecuted by the likes of a troll like you. Domestic violence has no politics even though you are trying really hard to make it about politics.
That all being said, your posts make you appear to have a soft spot in favor of men who hit woman.
The woman he hit forgave him, married him, gave him children & remains with him. If she can forgive & move forward than so can we
We were all appalled at the time & a small part of each of us is still appalled. However, he was punished, he repented, he did the work to prove he knew he did something appalling & that it would never happen again. He has been rehabilitated.
Nope, one of my posts suggests that. All I’m saying his that he should not remain eternally canceled for a terrible mistake he has atoned for. And you know that.
For you to equate someone being cancelled to not wanting to put someone in a team's hall of fame is quite the reach. You're something else, I'll give you that.
He can work and do whatever he wants, maybe putting him into a team's hall of fame might be a reach.
Lots of domestic violence survivors go back and “forgive” , right ? Or never leave ? Despite abuse
And I do apologize for bringing in politics. However I just can’t help but be upset at how woke politics is preventing American athletes from achieving their true potential lately (ray being honored, Colby Covington losing his last fight due to woke judging, FSU out of CFP, etc.)
Politics has nothing to do with any of those things. Not everything in this world is a conflict between liberal and conservative. And you're just flaming now looking to turn this into a CE board thread.
Be better.
Yep , but some abusers get help, like Ray did and go on trying to stop the problem they once was a part of.
Which Ray is doing.
So what you're implying is easy to think, but what Ray is doing shows the implication you're making doesn't apply to his relationship with his wife.
It's easy to point fingers, especially about a domestic violence victims, like Rice's wife Janay , might be the type you're talking about who allow themselves to be abused time and time again because of various reasons.
But the way Ray is trying to become a better person and helping others see domestic violence is wrong and needs to be addressed , makes me feel you need to look at what Ray is doing before you imply his wife is still a victim of domestic violence .
you posting
makes me feel you're implying Janay is in that category.
And like I posted previously the only reason people care was because he played football
He was a great football player for us. You wouldn’t have this long diatribe otherwise
Janay also had charges for hitting, spitting etc and they were dropped.
Janay is no delicate fairy psychotically ensnared.
Funny to me is that Ray (New Rochelle) and Janay (Mt Vernon) went to mutually hostile high schools that were like Bloods/Crips or Capulets/Montagues. Mt Vernon and NewRo had to play some football games with no spectators allowed except police.
If RU is so ashamed of Rice maybe they should give back the money they made selling his stuff. Stadium used to be full of #27 Rice named jerseys. There's a move on now to get money back
www.sportico.com
Janay is no delicate fairy psychotically ensnared.
Funny to me is that Ray (New Rochelle) and Janay (Mt Vernon) went to mutually hostile high schools that were like Bloods/Crips or Capulets/Montagues. Mt Vernon and NewRo had to play some football games with no spectators allowed except police.
If RU is so ashamed of Rice maybe they should give back the money they made selling his stuff. Stadium used to be full of #27 Rice named jerseys. There's a move on now to get money back
NCAA Warns of $4B ‘Death Knell’ in NIL Class Action Appeal
The NCAA could be forced to settle In Re College Athlete NIL Litigation because potential damages in the class action exceed $4 billion.
www.sportico.com
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I mean, his crime isn’t even the most serious one in the Ravens Ring of Honor, allegedly.
It seems wokeness is anything you don’t like.
His wife has forgiven him, no reason we shouldn’t