re: the Ray vs. Stans argument - an airing of grievances

[NewTweederEndzoneDance]

Jimmy and Bunk asked for a warrant to get a wiretap, but the Judge found Omar to be an unreliable witness

 

[Coach34]

I enjoyed your post and mostly agree with you...

But, this is the kind of stuff we're talking about. Whoever you get your basketball info from is revising the past in order to make the future look bleaker. That is a Stansbury-driven agenda trying to make Ray seem incompetent. Passing it on as fact does your university a disservice.

Of the three players you listed, only one would(almost surely) be playing at MSU right now, and that is Josh Gray. Hood was gone no matter what. That was decided well before the end of last season, and he even said as much in interviews. Devonta Pollard never committed to MSU. Alabama was a real player all along that always had a good chance of landing him throughout the process. To assume that Pollard would have ended up @ State is a decent leap IMO. That's not much different from saying Isaiah Canaan would be running the point @ MSU with O'Bryant at center had we gotten rid of Stansbury sooner...

dead on Engie

And let's also be clear- Ray signed PG's but knee injuries have taken their toll. Hard to blame him for that

 

[Dawgbreeze]

Couldn't have said it better myself and you are dead on. Coach 34 and his buddies lambasted Stansbury and MSU basketball way before Renardo Sidney ever got here. Now we are going to see if change is any better but the folks who supported MSU basketball and Rick Stansbury know positively that he is a much better human being than the majority of his critics on here. I like other posters and MSU supporters would love to see MSU basketball succeed but if it doesn't, then the blame is clearly on Scott Striklin and those critics who forgot how hard it is to win here. The sad part is that Andy Kennedy is the happiest person in this state now because his rebs are kicking our butts in recruiting and will more than likely do so on the court for the next few years. If indeed that happens, then look no farther than Coach34 and his tribunal because the wanted change and it may be a lot like Obama's.

Has there been one shred of actual proof that this taking place? It's just a little hard for me to believe that the university is actively employing someone who is so blatantly making concerted effort to undermine the basketball program.

Also, let's be clear. Any "agenda" that you're seeing from Stansbury supporters is for the most part not directed at MSU, the basketball team, or Ray. It's directed at all the brilliant prophesiers on this board that have preached for the last 8 years about how much better things would be once Stansbury was gone. You guys are welcome to use any excuse that you want to use but it's not better, it's not going to be better next year, and there's not much reason to believe that it's going to get better any time soon.

It was time for a change, I bought my season tickets this year, and I'm trying to stay optimistic... but be careful what you wish for is about all I can say