Recruiting….
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One aspect that can not be overlooked is Tony Robie's ability to shovel snow. Going to Edinboro, he is all too familiar with Lake Effect snow and how to efficiently clear a driveway. Recruiting can come down to the most minuscule details, Bo knows snow, so does Robie.
It is hard to say anything negative about guy who donated a kidney to the father of one of his wrestlers. That is what Robie did. I am guessing he is sincere and a very good person and it comes across when he talks to recruits and when the kids on his team talk to recruits. Actions speak louder than words.
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But will they fly them to practice?
Sorry. That’s not mathing…
Any nuggets or some insights on the recruits that recently visited last week? How’d the visits go? Any prospects looking this way?
Saw Israel Borge, Paul Kenny, and other big boarders visited Nebraska last week. Wonder when our next big visits will be.
Hoping for some good news coming soon in the recruiting landscape.
Saw Israel Borge, Paul Kenny, and other big boarders visited Nebraska last week. Wonder when our next big visits will be.
Hoping for some good news coming soon in the recruiting landscape.
Only thing negative was saying they must be willing to break rules for top recruits like Bassett gang, because we wouldn’t and they dumped us because of it. So do you know if they are going to do the Oklahoma State thing and fly the family in all the time, all expenses paid to train with the college and club guys. I know Spencer is our best club guy by far, but who do they have that’s better? Henson? Are they any deeper than us. I know it’s a real weakness for us, and Jason Nolf mentioned our lack of a senior level club other than Spencer is really hurting our recruiting. Talked about how smart Taylor is to use the ton of money he has to build the RTC to entice recruits. Did say he didn’t know if NLWC has much money to use, but they just get guys in the club because they will be coached so well, which is BS. They asked him if he would be an assistant to Taylor, said probably not, but he does want to be a college coach, but wants his own program. Wonder if he will be snatched up also by the time Tom hangs it up?
The post said they must be willing to break rules and the coach must have a silver tongue. I was only referring to Robie giving a kidney to bring up a point that anyone who would do that is a special person and I would not say anything negative unless I had some surefire proof. Just seems like the type of person that you would not want to bad mouth. I mean, donating a kidney is a Mother Teresa type of giving and caring.
Everything else you said in the post was spot on and insightful. IMHO I probably should have mentioned that when I posted. I was not trying to come off as an A hole.
I have nothing against the guy. Great recruiter. Remember Keegan saying they just wanted us to do( break rules) what the other coaches were all willing to do. So I’m wondering if V tech is one of those schools willing to break rules to land these type of recruits, like Taylor is more than happy to do. If they are not, and can’t make him the financial offer we can, or have near the dan support and home atmosphere we have, what did they gain by dumping us for them, other than being a little closer to home.
Ever consider the fact maybe they didnt dump Iowa for VATech?
Or perhaps with the word out that Iowa won't break rules, the rule breaking schools decided it wasn't worth taking on Bassett/Miller and facing more scrutiny. All of the sudden, Bassett/Miller find that their market isn't what they thought and settle for the "best of the rest."
Just playing devil's advocate. No inside knowledge.
I definitely think Bassett's stock has dropped and he is/was not the hot commodity that he was originally or that he thought he was.
I think they overplayed their hand. As already mentioned when the world knows you’re looking for something that’s against the rules schools may be a little less willing to bend the rules for you. When you have stockpiled the talent that Penn State and Oklahoma State have it’s probably not worth the risk.
I still think any talk of stock falling or being overrated is way overblown. Beau and Melvin Miller were probably the two best prospects that were still on the table.
I do not think Miller's stock has decreased at all. I think VT got a real break by taking the package deal.
What rule was violated?
Why can't a NIL deal that is paid for by big donor business endeavors (i.e., neither HWC nor the University of Iowa's NIL revenue share) include travel costs that support fulfillment of NIL contract responsibilities?
Why couldn't an RTC qualified athlete take advantage of the nearest RTC when fulfilling NIL responsibilities?
I believe it's less a matter of rules being broken and more a matter of priorities when spreading monies around limiting creativity.
Depending on the perspective, one side could see it as greed while the other side could see it as a viable approach rejected off hand. And if either side believes that is the perspective of the other, well then, surely the relationship will tend toward souring.
Why can't a NIL deal that is paid for by big donor business endeavors (i.e., neither HWC nor the University of Iowa's NIL revenue share) include travel costs that support fulfillment of NIL contract responsibilities?
Why couldn't an RTC qualified athlete take advantage of the nearest RTC when fulfilling NIL responsibilities?
I believe it's less a matter of rules being broken and more a matter of priorities when spreading monies around limiting creativity.
Depending on the perspective, one side could see it as greed while the other side could see it as a viable approach rejected off hand. And if either side believes that is the perspective of the other, well then, surely the relationship will tend toward souring.
No real place for this, but it’s not worthy of a new thread either. Lehigh seems to be upping their game. Was I told that a key Iowa benefactor supports Lehigh too, @1stplacehawk? Or was it PSU’s big donor, or both?
Never going to live that down…poor guy!
If you're talking about Bob hes a relative of Lehigh HWT Nathan Taylor so.......
How good is V-Tech's RTC? Wasn't that Bassett's big takeaway for decommitting? I don't recall them putting up world and Olympic medalists? I mean our recent list is real short too but hell even Neb. would be a better RTC than V-Tech. What a complete mind boggling decision, all because you want to be flown out to RTC practices. Best of luck I guess but I too think they'll be in the portal sooner than later. V-Tech doesn't have the fan base for their egos.
I think it's pretty well agreed upon that the public reasons were not the actual reasons.
Not a huge surprise, but Sidun just announced his commitment to PSU:
I think many of us thought it was PSU. Man… really hoping Tom and crew are on Paul Kenny.
Feels like Kenny (plus his 2028 brother) and Bachmann (plus his 2028 brother) have become the linchpin pieces of this class - if Iowa can land them.
Would give the Hawks some high-end talents to help cover the 133-157 range that'll really start to clear out in the next two years.
At this point we've all heard this song before. Nothing against you, but I'll just keep my powder clean til the recruits, whomever they are, are on campus. Which has generally been my policy, although I admit I got off-track with the Raneys, whom are my favorite prospects in years just due to crazy *** style.
He wasn't coming to Iowa with Deluca being a 125 for years . He will be a career 125 for Penn st
Even without Deluca he wasn’t going to Iowa. PSU was his dream school forever.
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All I said was that they feel like linchpin pieces to the 2027 class - not that Iowa was guaranteed to land them
And hey, you're talking to someone who had a pre-written commitment article for the Raneys - so I know what disappointment feels like lol
I get it. If that comes off as a shot to you, I wasn't intending that. I apologize.All I said was that they feel like linchpin pieces to the 2027 class - not that Iowa was guaranteed to land them
And hey, you're talking to someone who had a pre-written commitment article for the Raneys - so I know what disappointment feels like lol
I think that was Corbys way of saying Sidun knew he couldn't win the spot so he wasn't going to Iowa. One reason I love Corby so much....always giving Hawk fans a better way of reconciling bad news...
No worries.
I think subconsciously I just wanted to bring up my write-up on the Raneys again because it was one of my better articles and I'm still a little ticked off that I never got to use it lol.
Delete the Raney article; that will make it inevitable that they then flip back to Iowa.
Actually it was my way of saying Iowa has a 125
Who's your target for 133? Is Borge a 133 or 141?? I know he wrestled at 138 but I assume he did this for competition since the projections I've seen for him are lower. Paul Kenny??Actually it was my way of saying Iowa has a 125
Don’t understand the analogy? Many of us were hoping they could kiss and make up, if only to get Melvin. Did the 2 sides even communicate after the decommitment?
If you believe the public reasons that we were no good for his wrestling, as a person, and his religious journey, then why would he have committed a few months earlier. Bassets should have been up front about expecting that during the recruiting process. We still would say we can’t, but he could have just taken us off his list, would have kept that momentum going for him. Jealousy of the results Jax was getting may have been why they suddenly made this demand. Jax is by far the most talented wrestler in that class, and has always been great at freestyle. I think Bo’s grinding wear you down style worked better in folk style(see Melcalf). Jax was going to be that good without Taylor.