Recruiting
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"On paper", yes, he's doing better than anyone ever has for UK in the modern era. That doesn't mean that the players will pan out, develop, or fit what you're trying to do.
If you are referring to 2014 then several of those guys have been recruited over (Long, Tucker, Snodgrass, Horton, Williams) some have graduate (Johnson, Stamps, Flannigan)
some are injured (West, Barker, Baker) and several are contributors (Elam, Stallings, Randolph, Ware, Middleton, Edwards, Johnson, Williams, Walker, Dubose) That leaves Bone, Tubman, Richardson, LaRubbio, Firious, Tubman, Krok
some are injured (West, Barker, Baker) and several are contributors (Elam, Stallings, Randolph, Ware, Middleton, Edwards, Johnson, Williams, Walker, Dubose) That leaves Bone, Tubman, Richardson, LaRubbio, Firious, Tubman, Krok
My point is. If the class was that good why isn't half the class on the roster. Tubman got a tough draw of course but everybody else, other than who graduated, got recruited over by guys with lower ranking. I guess I'm starting to question the whole "they are good at evaluating talent" thing since our best and highest rated recruiting class isn't make much of an impact. Or does it come down too them not knowing what the hell to do with talent after it arrives in Lexington?
Over half the class is starting or contributing. Three of the guys injured were starting or would be starting. There are only 22 starters.
Yeah you don't see my point. It's the best we have ever seen. His best class from 2014 are juniors and rs sophomores, and they can't manage more than 5 wins a season. This "best" recruiting we have seen have under achieved so much and that it is sickening. I'm not questioning who they signed or recruited. I'm questioning whether they are really worth a damn or is the coaching just that bad that we can't beat so miss. And can't keep nmsu under 20 points. That's my point. Are our players really that good like we are lead to believe.
Contributing just enough to lose to southern miss. Contributing just enough to let one of the worst teams in the country hang 42. Talk about a group of over achievers
Recruiting is a crap shoot, the star rating is a nice starting point, but it doesn't mean every 5* is going to be an AA or every 3* is going to be a spot player. They are just educated opinions; A perfect example is Lamar Jackson was a 3*, how many teams wouldn't like to have him at qb over 4 and 5 star guys they signed? I would say you could count them on 1 hand and have fingers left. The thing is Petrino had never really used a qb with Jackson's talent before, mostly the pocket passers, but he adapted his offense to fit Jackson instead of trying to force Jackson to adapt to his offense where he may never have seen the field
Oh, you were being passive aggressive. Sorry, I didn't pick up on that.
By the way, football programs don't get turned around by 1 or 2 recruiting classes that have reached their redshirt junior and sophomore years.
Everyone always brings up Brooks and his tenure when talking about fans wanting Stoops gone. The difference? Rich finished 8-5 with a bowl win in his fourth season. Stoops will most likely only win 4 games this year (in his 4th season). After the season can we finally put this crap comparison to bed and finally move in the right direction.
4 games into year 4 by my last count. So what's your ***** the recruiting rankings, the coaches, or both? You are talking in circles.
You seem certain about the 4 wins. So did you want Brooks fired in year 4 when he was 3-5 coming off a 49-0 loss at LSU? Be honest. Let's not forget that UK came back from the dead to beat Central Michigan early in that season and beat Louisiana Monroe 42-40 in the next to last game of the year. ULM was 4-8 and we gave up 40 points, sound familiar?
Yes I'm fairly certain about 4 wins. But for arguments sake, let's say he pulls out 5. Still a far cry from 8-5 and a bowl win. And honestly yes, I was uneasy about Brooks. Not on a Stoops level, but uneasy, yes. That's why I said after the season we can put the comparison to bed. At that point we'll have equal ground to compare on. And if we're literally comparing the two schedules, show me where Rich Brooks lost to a Sunbelt level team at home.
Every year is different so trying to compare Brooks to Stoops or even Curci is a total waste of time.
You can prove anything with numbers, just ask a Democrat.
You can prove anything with numbers, just ask a Democrat.
If Stoops is dead set on running a 3/4 D he needs to recruit players with higher IQ's that can understand and grasp the concepts of it.....with what we have on that side of the ball we are much better suited for 4/3. The KISS concept.....Keep It Simple Stoopid!
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We weren't talking about the 2004 season. We were specifically comparing this season with the 2006 8-5 bowl wining season. But if you wanna talk about entire resume, then Stoops has lost to two Sunbelt teams (WKU in 2013) in his tenure. Brooks never did that.
It's hard to blame Stoops for anything that first year. He barely had any time to cobble together a freshman class. We weren't just beaten by WKU, we were out-talented by them.
So you start a thread about a recruiting class and you're not even sure which one it is?
That tells me all I need to know about your posts...
Lol, your floating an agenda so if you already made up your mind then what are you wanting? Support?
This is Ky football and I don't know who thinks year 4 is magic but id have history on my side that it doesn't happen. If I'm not mistaken we had www.firerichbrooks.com in year 4 after a 49-0 season.
I'm not huge fan of this staff at this point but I also see agenda posts that are begging for support.
Criticism based on what has happened is legit, criticism based on what might happen is just complaining.