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<blockquote data-quote="Buckaineer" data-source="post: 131739260" data-attributes="member: 1428007">I haven't said either that the BIG 12 would or will&nbsp; or won't add more members or that they will or won't stay together.The point is--looking factually at the situation instead of subjectively--the BIG 12 schools that remain are not g5 level schools by any stretch of the imagination unless 80% of the rest of college football in the power conferences is.&nbsp; They are POWER schools in every metric and remain that way.TCU/Baylor and OK State would likely have titles just since 2011 had they not artificially been blocked from PLAYING in one.&nbsp; WVU has also played for a national title and came close not all that long ago.In a 12 team playoff, they'd undoubtedly be able to place teams in such a playoff and if you get in there's a chance to win it.But winning national championships in a rigged system doesn't determine whether you are a power school or not.&nbsp; Most if not all of the 80% in the other power conferences haven't won a national championship in the last 75 years EITHER.&nbsp; Again--talk about being SELECTIVE--your anti BIG 12 agenda is showing again.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Buckaineer, post: 131739260, member: 1428007"] I haven't said either that the BIG 12 would or will or won't add more members or that they will or won't stay together. The point is--looking factually at the situation instead of subjectively--the BIG 12 schools that remain are not g5 level schools by any stretch of the imagination unless 80% of the rest of college football in the power conferences is. They are POWER schools in every metric and remain that way. TCU/Baylor and OK State would likely have titles just since 2011 had they not artificially been blocked from PLAYING in one. WVU has also played for a national title and came close not all that long ago. In a 12 team playoff, they'd undoubtedly be able to place teams in such a playoff and if you get in there's a chance to win it. But winning national championships in a rigged system doesn't determine whether you are a power school or not. Most if not all of the 80% in the other power conferences haven't won a national championship in the last 75 years EITHER. Again--talk about being SELECTIVE--your anti BIG 12 agenda is showing again. [/QUOTE]

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