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DesotoCountyDawg said:
If the roles were reversed and Renardo Sidney had said something like that and Kennedy responded that way you'd think he was badass so STFU.
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Charles Rhodes was the biggest **** talker I have ever seen and I never saw Rod Barnes or AK say **** to him.

I wouldn't say **** to Sydney - that ****** is crazy.

I don't think it was awesome when O tore his shirt off and challenged players to a fight. I don't think a coach like Saban or Izzo would tell another team's player "**** You" I just don't see it happening.

If AK had told Charles Rhodes "**** You", it would have probably been a hate crime.
 
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** How do we know he said "17 you"? Could have been a lot of things. Free shoes. Fudge goo. Fart juice.

I'm going with "Fun Jew" in homage to his #1 fan Shmuley.
 
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Yeah - but you are a fan. If you an AD or President of the university - you can't have your basketball coach dropping F-Bombs against player - at least getting caught on camera. Not if he isn't getting to the tourney every year - if he is then, its all good.
 
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He should have been thanking Henderson - Henderson kept MSU in the game all day - he was horrible shooting the ball.
 
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No doubt ESPN's lead story would have been "Mississippi State coach verbally assaults Manziel".
 
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Since it's apparently pretentious hour, are you ok with Henderson and the way he represents Ole Miss?
 
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Im not sure what he said either - definitely not a shining moment for Freeze; Definite signs of a young coach that doesn't know how to block stupid **** out.
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So Freeze gets a pass because he's a "young coach" but Ray doesn't? I'd also much rather a coach yell at an opposing team's players than their own fans.
 
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Actually no. They average 65,000 to 100,000, sometimes un-taxed, sometimes plus accommodations. Its definitely not bad money, but its not what most would consider wealthy.
 
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**** Marshall Henderson. Way to go Coach. At 45 years old, I am not gonna argue about ****. Rick Ray said what he should have said. Marshall Henderson is such a dick I love that Ole Miss fans have gone all in on him.
 
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Since it's apparently pretentious hour, are you ok with Henderson and the way he represents Ole Miss?
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Not really. Im sure the story will end badly - its good TV though. He actually has toned it down this year. He isn't running his mouth at the other team as much - unfortunately he is still taking terrible shots all game.

Now, if AK was acting a fool - then its a different story. I have different expectations for a coach and a player. I expect a player to be a **** head. I don't expect a coach to be.
 
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No, but OMLawdog sure is defending him because he didn't "drop the F-Bomb" and he's a "young coach."
 
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So Freeze gets a pass because he's a "young coach" but Ray doesn't? I'd also much rather a coach yell at an opposing team's players than their own fans.
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I was embarrassed by it. Freeze should know better. It was the first truly dumb thing he did as a head coach - Im sure we had some head in the sand fans that didn't care, but its the type of thing that Saban or Izzo would never do.
 
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I don't know, maybe if I went to some Ole Miss boards I would.
 
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HD6 said:
I don't know, maybe if I went to some Ole Miss boards I would.
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Totally understand. Let me help you out. The answer is no, we didn't think he was a bad ***. We thought it looked like someone that didn't have nearly enough head coaching experience to block out stupid ****. Most rational posters thought it was embarrassing and that Freeze should know better.
 
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Actually no. They average 65,000 to 100,000, sometimes un-taxed, sometimes plus accommodations. Its definitely not bad money, but its not what most would consider wealthy.
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Kid that grew up down the street has been playing all over the world for 10+ years since graduating from Samford. He's a millionaire a few times over. Wealthy for most mid-thirty types. And he's not half the talent that Henderson is. If Henderson can miraculously stay out of trouble off the court, he will make a lot of money.
 
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Maybe if you knew that fan was as big a piece of **** as Marshall Henderson is, you'd have felt differently.
 
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Or plot twist, that was Marshall Henderson he was yelling at. That would make it OK in my book.
 
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HD6 said:
Maybe if you knew that fan was as big a piece of **** as Marshall Henderson is, you'd have felt differently.
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Im sure he was a piece of **** - in fact im positive of it. That is exactly why I don't want my head football coach stooping to his level. I mean, do you think Coach K or Roy Williams doesn't hear **** all the time from players and fans - and I don't see them going after fans in the stands or opposing players on the court. Its because they have been there before and they know what it takes to be a head coach at this level. They don't respond to every dumb comment by a fan or opposing player.
 
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Yeah because AK has never embarrassed your university

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HD6 said:
Or plot twist, that was Marshall Henderson he was yelling at. That would make it OK in my book.
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By the way, if any Ole Miss player deserved a **** you it was Jason Harrison. I sat two rows behind the MSU bench in Oxford one year and that midget talked more **** to Stans and Co. than any player I have ever heard. It was ridiculous. Stans didn't say a ******* word to him. Now that was a guy that deserved an F Bomb.
 
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You must really suck as a lawyer. You said he doesn't get into it with fans. That shows he clearly does regardless of the situation.

Ray didn't like someone talking **** to his face about his own team. Coach K didn't like a school storming the court.
 
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Looking at the video I'm pretty sure Henderson said, "Come at me bro."

 
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No, you are right he totally embarrassed himself and Ole Miss....

Just like Ray embarrassed himself tonight.
 
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Anybody that would use Coach K as an example of an even-keeled person who doesn't use a gross amount of profanity doesn't know very much about him.
 
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dawgstudent said:
You must really suck as a lawyer.
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Man, someone is angry tonight.

You really think Coach K cursing at a fan, while they are on the court and his team is getting yelled at and shoved on the court is the same thing that happened here? Even if it is, the bottom line is that Coach K was wrong for doing it - he got called out for it. Because its not what you want your coach to do.
 
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TheOMlawdog said:
Now, if AK was acting a fool - then its a different story. I have different expectations for a coach and a player. I expect a player to be a **** head. I don't expect a coach to be.
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Guess you don't expect your coach to try and make his players act like halfway decent human beings. MH is the biggest thug in college basketball & AK lets him do whatever he wants because he wouldn't have a job if it weren't for Henderson. That's part of the reason many of us wanted Stans gone - we were tired of watching the soap opera that had become MSU basketball.

I have no problem with a coach telling a piece of **** like MH to 17 off. But I do have a problem losing by 20 points to UM.
 
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HD6 said:
Anybody that would use Coach K as an example of an even-keeled person who doesn't use a gross amount of profanity doesn't know very much about him.
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He told Dean Smith to **** off. Im sure Bobby Knight would have told Marshall to **** off - if he couldn't kill him.
 
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