RU's last four opponents (ouch)

Kbee3

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November is gonna be rough. The four teams currently have a combined record of 20-2.
Iowa and Maryland are 5-1 and OSU and Pedd State are 5-0.
I can't imagine it being much tougher than that.
 

WhiteBus

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Need to win next 2
Exactly! That's why losing Saturday was a big deal. There is no room for error now. Yet the Scarlet colored glasses crowd still think yesterday was a building block and GW is awesome. The goal this year was a bowl. Not building for the future. Got to win the next two by any measure possible including changing the lineup and play calling!
 

Jtung230

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Exactly! That's why losing Saturday was a big deal. There is no room for error now. Yet the Scarlet colored glasses crowd still think yesterday was a building block and GW is awesome. The goal this year was a bowl. Not building for the future. Got to win the next two by any measure possible including changing the lineup and play calling!
So, Iowa and MD are tough because they are both 5-1 but Wisc was easier? Not following.
 

ashokan

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Be nice to play some boss teams early in season before they hit their strides.
Seems like every year the second half of season is a valley of the shadow of death
 
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NBKnight

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Exactly! That's why losing Saturday was a big deal. There is no room for error now. Yet the Scarlet colored glasses crowd still think yesterday was a building block and GW is awesome. The goal this year was a bowl. Not building for the future. Got to win the next two by any measure possible including changing the lineup and play calling!
Iowa was and is a more winnable game than Wisconsin.
 

Shelby65

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Yep a must win for us, but a more interesting thing to ponder: what will GS say if we lose on Saturday ?

Will he recycle his infamous “someday our better will be better than their better” postgame **** the bed quote ? (Yes, verbatim). Or, “we didn’t go 1-0 this week but we’re getting closer. We’re going to keep choppin”
 
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ashokan

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Iowa and Maryland haven't beaten anyone. Wisconsin is better than both teams.

That was said about 6-5 Maryland last year and then they won over RU 37-0 (40-16 the year before).
RU matches up poorly with Maryland for some reason
 
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GoodOl'Rutgers

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Exactly! That's why losing Saturday was a big deal. There is no room for error now. Yet the Scarlet colored glasses crowd still think yesterday was a building block and GW is awesome. The goal this year was a bowl. Not building for the future. Got to win the next two by any measure possible including changing the lineup and play calling!
There is NO WAY that you counted Wisky as a win before the season started. You have revealed just how much you let your hatred of GS color your commentary here.
 

WhiteBus

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There is NO WAY that you counted Wisky as a win before the season started. You have revealed just how much you let your hatred of GS color your commentary here.
First dummy I am a huge fan of Schiano.
2nd this game of "in the beginning of the season..." is nonsense. Rutgers wasn't picked for a bowl game. It's not what we thought in April but what we have seen in the games already. They been better then everyone thought going into this season. 10 mins into that game Saturday it was obvious our defense was able to stop them. We needed first downs on drives if we didn't score and couldn't have turnovers otherwise we win that game. We didn't get either and worse went went from adding at least 3 points or maybe 7. Instead we give them 7 right before the half. Unfortunately Maryland is better too so we have 2 must win games left. It would be a complete collapse if we don't make a bowl after a 4-1 start
 
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WhiteBus

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Do people really think Wisconsin is worse than UMD and Iowa? I am not following...
Can't speak to Iowa but Maryland is playing well. Actually had a 10 point lead against Ohio State. Demolished Michigan State, and Indiana.
You watched the Rutgers Wisconsin game? You really think Wisconsin is good? They are nearly a mirror image of Rutgers. Good defense and questionable offense but a better offensive line.
 
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sct1111

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Can't speak to Iowa but Maryland is playing well. Actually had a 10 point lead against Ohio State. Demolished Michigan State, and Indiana.
You watched the Rutgers Wisconsin game? You really think Wisconsin is good? They are nearly a mirror image of Rutgers. Good defense and questionable offense but a better offensive line.
Wisconsin is absolutely NOT a mirror image of Rutgers. Completely different offense and defensive philosophies.
 

wheezer

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That was said about 6-5 Maryland last year and then they won over RU 37-0 (40-16 the year before).
RU matches up poorly with Maryland for some reason
Playing them now is getting closer to playing an elite team
At least till that qb leaves
 
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BuggsyRU

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Exactly! That's why losing Saturday was a big deal. There is no room for error now. Yet the Scarlet colored glasses crowd still think yesterday was a building block and GW is awesome. The goal this year was a bowl. Not building for the future. Got to win the next two by any measure possible including changing the lineup and play calling!
Tell me why you think RU should have beaten a Wisconsin team ON THE ROAD that is also 5-1, and was a 14-point favorite? If you thought this game should have been a W for Rutgers, then congrats, you are the "1"
in 1-100 that thought that.

We have been getting our asses handed to us by 4 or more TD's against Wisconsin....and in this game, on the road, like we did against Michigan, we showed we belonged on the field with them for the first time in a long time (against Wisconsin, the first time ever.)

Tell me why you think a bowl game, which is the goal, is now out of reach with half a season to play and us needing only 2 more victories?
 

NickRU714

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There were plenty of people downgrading Wisconsin last week here.
Particularly in regards to us beating them not being uncalled for.
With most bucketing all 3 teams together (Maryland slightly ahead of the other 2).

Note - the analytical assessment ability of this board as a whole has never exactly been top quality.
 

sct1111

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There were plenty of people downgrading Wisconsin last week here.
Particularly in regards to us beating them not being uncalled for.
With most bucketing all 3 teams together (Maryland slightly ahead of the other 2).

Note - the analytical assessment ability of this board as a whole has never exactly been top quality.
Agreed I thought we had a 20-30% chance of pulling the upset. I think that's reasonable. Wisconsin is currently just outside the top 25, will probably win the west and and will most likely finish in the top 25.
 

WhiteBus

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Wisconsin is absolutely NOT a mirror image of Rutgers. Completely different offense and defensive philosophies.
I did not say philosophy. Try reading again. Good defense, questionable offense.
 
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Yep a must win for us, but a more interesting thing to ponder: what will GS say if we lose on Saturday ?

Will he recycle his infamous “someday our better will be better than their better” postgame **** the bed quote ? (Yes, verbatim). Or, “we didn’t go 1-0 this week but we’re getting closer. We’re going to keep choppin”
Listen up, You may not like Schiano but from where we were from the previous two coaches we are light years ahead. They are getting better every game and i can see the progression. Schiano is on the right path and we are getting better.
Why is it that many Rutgers fans are so demanding, Rome wasn't built in a day and neither will Rutgers football...but we are getting better.
 

RUforlife

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Iowa and Maryland haven't beaten anyone. Wisconsin is better than both teams.
Especially in the case of Maryland, let's not forget how we dominated them on both sides of the ball last year. As for Iowa, c'mon, we were just a few plays of blowing them out last year at SHI Stadium, so going on the road to Kinnick Stadium should be a cakewalk for this team. Chalk both those games up as Ws, don't even need to play the games, foregone conclusion.
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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First dummy I am a huge fan of Schiano.
2nd this game of "in the beginning of the season..." is nonsense. Rutgers wasn't picked for a bowl game. It's not what we thought in April but what we have seen in the games already. They been better then everyone thought going into this season. 10 mins into that game Saturday it was obvious our defense was able to stop them. We needed first downs on drives if we didn't score and couldn't have turnovers otherwise we win that game. We didn't get either and worse went went from adding at least 3 points or maybe 7. Instead we give them 7 right before the half. Unfortunately Maryland is better too so we have 2 must win games left. It would be a complete collapse if we don't make a bowl after a 4-1 start
You just said, and I quote, "The goal this year was a bowl. Not building for the future. "

Why say this if not to blame Schiano directly for the loss as if we were expected to beat Wisconsin all along?

The way you worded that response it is not supportive of the coaches, program or players in any way. It is whining and bitching and moaning about a loss. Yeah, it was disappointing.. but you want to use it to say we should have won and must make a bowl game... which the people that know this program all thought was barely possible. And the idea that it was possible at all at this point was a positive.. something to build on.

Would you rather the players take that loss as a building experience or one that they should respond to by hanging their heads in shame and just give up on the rest of the season. That goes for the fans as well.. should we all join you in giving up on the season? If we don't win 2 more are you "out" as a fan?

Tell me you bet your house on us making a bowl game this year and I might excuse such a reaction from someone who says he is a fan and supporter of the head coach. Otherwise, you sound like a loser.
 

sct1111

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Especially in the case of Maryland, let's not forget how we dominated them on both sides of the ball last year. As for Iowa, c'mon, we were just a few plays of blowing them out last year at SHI Stadium, so going on the road to Kinnick Stadium should be a cakewalk for this team. Chalk both those games up as Ws, don't even need to play the games, foregone conclusion.
Reductio ad absurdum

I think Maryland is better than us. I think us and Iowa is pretty close, they might be a little better. I think Wisconsin is a little better than Maryland and I bet Wisconsin is ranked at the end of the season. Don't think Iowa or Maryland will be.

I think we're in every game except OSU and PSU the rest of the season.
 
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WhiteBus

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Especially in the case of Maryland, let's not forget how we dominated them on both sides of the ball last year. As for Iowa, c'mon, we were just a few plays of blowing them out last year at SHI Stadium, so going on the road to Kinnick Stadium should be a cakewalk for this team. Chalk both those games up as Ws, don't even need to play the games, foregone conclusion.
Rutgers lost to Maryland 37-0
And Iowa 27-10.
 

rureadyforsomefootball

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You just said, and I quote, "The goal this year was a bowl. Not building for the future. "

Why say this if not to blame Schiano directly for the loss as if we were expected to beat Wisconsin all along?

The way you worded that response it is not supportive of the coaches, program or players in any way. It is whining and bitching and moaning about a loss. Yeah, it was disappointing.. but you want to use it to say we should have won and must make a bowl game... which the people that know this program all thought was barely possible. And the idea that it was possible at all at this point was a positive.. something to build on.

Would you rather the players take that loss as a building experience or one that they should respond to by hanging their heads in shame and just give up on the rest of the season. That goes for the fans as well.. should we all join you in giving up on the season? If we don't win 2 more are you "out" as a fan?

Tell me you bet your house on us making a bowl game this year and I might excuse such a reaction from someone who says he is a fan and supporter of the head coach. Otherwise, you sound like a loser.
Bingo, you nailed it, he's clueless.
 

MADHAT1

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Meed to win the next two games against opponiants RU has a good chance of winning,
before worrying about upsetting teams Rutgers has a poor chance of coming out on top.
Lose to either the Spartans or Hoosiers , then we must pray for an upset in November so RU is bowl eligible
Lose both October games, a voodoo doll probably won't help RU's chances of winning 2 in November.
 

WhiteBus

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You just said, and I quote, "The goal this year was a bowl. Not building for the future. "

Why say this if not to blame Schiano directly for the loss as if we were expected to beat Wisconsin all along?

The way you worded that response it is not supportive of the coaches, program or players in any way. It is whining and bitching and moaning about a loss. Yeah, it was disappointing.. but you want to use it to say we should have won and must make a bowl game... which the people that know this program all thought was barely possible. And the idea that it was possible at all at this point was a positive.. something to build on.

Would you rather the players take that loss as a building experience or one that they should respond to by hanging their heads in shame and just give up on the rest of the season. That goes for the fans as well.. should we all join you in giving up on the season? If we don't win 2 more are you "out" as a fan?

Tell me you bet your house on us making a bowl game this year and I might excuse such a reaction from someone who says he is a fan and supporter of the head coach. Otherwise, you sound like a loser.
So let them lose out as a learning experience and you'll be happy?You are such a great fan! They have enough experience losing!
 

RUTGERS95

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Exactly! That's why losing Saturday was a big deal. There is no room for error now. Yet the Scarlet colored glasses crowd still think yesterday was a building block and GW is awesome. The goal this year was a bowl. Not building for the future. Got to win the next two by any measure possible including changing the lineup and play calling!
well said, very well said
 
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RUTGERS95

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There were plenty of people downgrading Wisconsin last week here.
Particularly in regards to us beating them not being uncalled for.
With most bucketing all 3 teams together (Maryland slightly ahead of the other 2).

Note - the analytical assessment ability of this board as a whole has never exactly been top quality.
just search my posts, I battled a bunch saying they didn't know what they were talking about. Hell we've got Mel and his sidekick saying it too. ooops

now we've got people saying wisc is better than Iowa and MD lol, Iowa defense is like the 78 Steelers and MD looks like Udub lite from the East Coast. They can score a lot in a short period of time.
 

MADHAT1

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just search my posts, I battled a bunch saying they didn't know what they were talking about. Hell we've got Mel and his sidekick saying it too. ooops

now we've got people saying wisc is better than Iowa and MD lol, Iowa defense is like the 78 Steelers and MD looks like Udub lite from the East Coast. They can score a lot in a short period of time.
people here are mot the only ones that feel Wisconsin is better than Iowa.
Maryland is proving to be better than both of them , at this time.
Big Ten Football Power Rankings, Week 6:

4. Maryland (5-1, 2-1 B1G)​

Week 6 Result: L, 17-37 vs Ohio State

Week 7 Matchup: Vs Illinois


It had to frustrating as a Maryland fan to watch the Terrapins consistently throw away prime opportunities against Ohio State on Saturday. From kicking a field goal from the two-yard line in the first quarter, to botching the clock management on the final drive of the second quarter, coach Mike Locksley's team left a good number of points on the board early on Saturday. Maryland missed its chance to put Ohio State in a deeper hole to clime out of, and the Buckeyes finally woke up and responded come the fourth quarter.

Still, this is a quality Maryland team, and one that should at worst finish the season with a 9-3 record.

5. Wisconsin (4-1, 2-0 B1G)​

Week 6 Result: W, 24-13 vs Rutgers

Week 7 Matchup: Vs Iowa


Coach Luke Fickell and his Wisconsin Badgers did not look very impressive during their 24-13 win over Rutgers, though 2023 Rutgers does have a special ability to make any game look miserable. Wisconsin still has all its goals in front of it right now, and hosts Iowa in an early season, de facto Big Ten West division championship next Saturday.

6. Iowa (5-1, 2-1 B1G)​

Week 6 Result: W, 20-14 vs Purdue

Week 7 Matchup: @ Wisconsin


See everything written about Wisconsin's win over Rutgers, and it can be applied to Iowa's win over Purdue. The Hawkeyes' offense is still miserable, and yet they're 5-1, and all but guaranteed a Big Ten Championship game berth if they can win in Madison in Week 7.

7. Rutgers (4-2, 1-2 B1G)​

Week 6 Result: L, 13-24 vs Wisconsin

Week 7 Matchup: Vs Michigan State


Rutgers has a lot of serious limitations, but did hang in there against Wisconsin and gave Michigan its most serious game of the seasons, even if it still ended in a 24-point loss. Coach Greg Schiano's team needs to beat Michigan State in Week 7 to prove that it belong above the bottom dwellers of the Big Ten, but a 4-2 start for the 2023 Scarlet Knights is as much as anyone could have asked of this team.
https://www.si.com/college/indiana/big-ten/big-ten-football-power-rankings-week-6
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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Hahaha. You say dum things and when it's repeated back .....
Here's something else you, the GS fan, said..

"Yet the Scarlet colored glasses crowd still think yesterday was a building block and GW is awesome. "

So.. you are a fan but do not think he is awesome. got it. You repeatedly create these strawman arguments where you fabricate some imaginary group of idiots that you have to set straight. In this case that's the "Scarlet colored glasses crowd still think yesterday was a building block and GW is awesome."

If you learn nothing from failure, as seems to be the case with you, then, yes, Saturday could not possibly be a building block. Showing we could go into Madison and compete at all.. something we have not done before.. could not possibly be a building block. Going into Madison where many thought we might actually win, never mind beat the 13-point spread.. could not possibly be a building block.

You don't need scarlet-colored glasses.. but you do need glasses.. strong ones. because you cannot see progress and building blocks when they are right in front of you.

You are dismissed. Good day, sir.
 

WhiteBus

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Here's something else you, the GS fan, said..

"Yet the Scarlet colored glasses crowd still think yesterday was a building block and GW is awesome. "

So.. you are a fan but do not think he is awesome. got it. You repeatedly create these strawman arguments where you fabricate some imaginary group of idiots that you have to set straight. In this case that's the "Scarlet colored glasses crowd still think yesterday was a building block and GW is awesome."

If you learn nothing from failure, as seems to be the case with you, then, yes, Saturday could not possibly be a building block. Showing we could go into Madison and compete at all.. something we have not done before.. could not possibly be a building block. Going into Madison where many thought we might actually win, never mind beat the 13-point spread.. could not possibly be a building block.

You don't need scarlet-colored glasses.. but you do need glasses.. strong ones. because you cannot see progress and building blocks when they are right in front of you.

You are dismissed. Good day, sir.
Hahaha. Dismissed? Like I'd listen to you! Glad you wasted your time today. Maybe you should write a book!
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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Hahaha. Dismissed? Like I'd listen to you! Glad you wasted your time today. Maybe you should write a book!