Looking into hostesses and drug policy.
http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i...res_law_firm_for_top_to_bottom_investiga.html
http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i...res_law_firm_for_top_to_bottom_investiga.html
Rutgers Retains Council to Investigate Football
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I'll go along with investigating Barco but this is not all B.S.
Flood has already proven he will skirt the rules to get a player on the field. If the drug issue is true than he is gone.
This leads one place.
Any Flood supporters should take long looks at him in the coming weeks. It will be a while before you see him on a sideline again.
Any Flood supporters should take long looks at him in the coming weeks. It will be a while before you see him on a sideline again.
They gave Flood a 3 game suspension and now this is the next step. They will review the football program and come up with reasons why Flood should be fire with cause and no buy out.
Start looking for the next coach.
Start looking for the next coach.
I think this is can actually be a good thing. Hopefully they would find nothing. But if they did, any punishment from the NCAA may be less because of the initiative we are taking to root out any problems.
I don't see how anyone can be upset with us trying to locate and eliminate any problems in the athletic department.
I don't see how anyone can be upset with us trying to locate and eliminate any problems in the athletic department.
This doesn't seem like its "the next step". According to the firm, they were hired in August, long before the suspension came out.
Its funny the story dropped today...a day with "good news". This is a nothing story.
They drug aspect of the investigation is what will get him fired. However that isn't a problem with the NCAA as they have no policy.
Keep your hopes up. The Asbury Park Press covered this in a story that I am too lazy to link. The drug policy includes extra slack for football because it is a short season. It is explained that way. I am not saying that makes it right, but it is not some secret plan.
Recruiting ambassadors a problem? Depends on what their defined role is. If it is to show recruits around campus, what is the problem?
Recruiting ambassadors a problem? Depends on what their defined role is. If it is to show recruits around campus, what is the problem?
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The firm was hired to observe the investigation into Elmer Flood's email chicanery. Read the article. The center of this new review is the allegations that Scarface Terry failed multiple drug tests and the Recruiting Ambassador program.
I'd reset your "nothing to the story" gauge.
This is exactly what many of us said when the suspension was announced. There would be more shoes to drop.
Not sure what you mean..this is something Rutgers should be doing with an investigation. No reason for this news to break today if its been on-going since August.
I really think Julie should set up a GoFundMe for a new coach. Would love to see how much we could donate.
- I would think what they're going to look for, drug policy-wise, is if the football program adheres to the guidelines set up, by the athletic department for them, if failed tests were properly reported, and if punishments were doled out equally. That would be my completely uneducated guess right now.
- hostesses, at this time, good thing to "look into" just to be sure all was on the "up-and-up," following the news out of Louisville. Not a bad thing here IMHO.
Again...
The aspects of the story that are center to the "top to bottom" investigation were not even known about in August. This firm was hired for two separate projects. You are choosing to run them together.
They were observers in the Flood email investigation.
Now, they are conducting an investigation of the entire program. This is the first time this has been announced. Central to that investigation is the drug tests and the Ambassador Program.
They are not the same thing.
good job by the school here. Based on the number of arrests, email scandel and other accusations school should have an outside council investigate.
At least this is all happening in the same season. I'd hate to see multiple seasons wasted.
Seems like prudent action irrespective of views on the coach. Compliance protocol was apparently not a strong suit but I sincerely doubt ru was doing much wrong. Best to identify flaws and implement appropriate policies and procedures and if there were violations self report them.
The Kansas law firm has been hired since the Flood email nonsense broke to observe the investigation done by the NJ firm.
We had two firms on the payroll for the Flood email investigation. One of them, was a Kansas firm that specializes in representing schools in front of the NCAA for rules violations. The observed the email investigation and made a report to the BOG re: possible NCAA violations.
They were not the lead firm in that investigation.
Now, they are the lead firm in investigating the ENTIRE football program, focused around allegations from Terry that he failed multiple drug tests and the Ambassador Program.
We had two firms on the payroll for the Flood email investigation. One of them, was a Kansas firm that specializes in representing schools in front of the NCAA for rules violations. The observed the email investigation and made a report to the BOG re: possible NCAA violations.
They were not the lead firm in that investigation.
Now, they are the lead firm in investigating the ENTIRE football program, focused around allegations from Terry that he failed multiple drug tests and the Ambassador Program.
The entire Athletics Department Policy is said to be more lax than other B1G schools:
http://www.app.com/story/sports/col...g-test-policy-compared-big-ten-ncaa/73271014/
The most obvious difference: Unlike at Wisconsin, Illinois, Ohio State, Maryland and Indiana, Rutgers differentiates football players from other student-athletes when penalizing a third strike.
Rutgers football players will be suspended a minimum of three games for a third violation, while Ohio State, Indiana and Maryland football players face a calendar year-long suspension.
A third violation at Illinois leads to a half-season suspension. A third at Wisconsin is grounds for dismissal — a punishment that Rutgers turns to after a fourth violation.
While all other Rutgers student-athletes are suspended for one calendar year for a third violation, the football exception exists so players will not be “excessively penalized” because its season has fewer games, according to the appendix of the policy adopted in 2008 and updated to reflect 2014 Big Ten membership.
http://www.app.com/story/sports/col...g-test-policy-compared-big-ten-ncaa/73271014/
The most obvious difference: Unlike at Wisconsin, Illinois, Ohio State, Maryland and Indiana, Rutgers differentiates football players from other student-athletes when penalizing a third strike.
Rutgers football players will be suspended a minimum of three games for a third violation, while Ohio State, Indiana and Maryland football players face a calendar year-long suspension.
A third violation at Illinois leads to a half-season suspension. A third at Wisconsin is grounds for dismissal — a punishment that Rutgers turns to after a fourth violation.
While all other Rutgers student-athletes are suspended for one calendar year for a third violation, the football exception exists so players will not be “excessively penalized” because its season has fewer games, according to the appendix of the policy adopted in 2008 and updated to reflect 2014 Big Ten membership.
Not doubting you, but the article doesn't give me that info..Just going by what I read in the article. It seems like they were hired in August to investigate the ENTIRE program, not just now.
It's Rutgers so what did you expect?... go spend mucho $$$$ for what is common in college sports and not only D-1 /P-5 levels...wouldn't be surprised if this " law firm " recommends to the NCAA that major infractions occurred and a loss of scholarships and perhaps bowl participation for several years be part of the punishment...hey someone has to get the "death penalty " ...why not corrupt Rutgers of the B1G?
I heard the same when they announced the 3 game suspension. And this coming out doesn't surprise me especially at this time. Confirms some things.
Did you not read the story, 30 pretty girls acting as hostesses.. Really? Here is the problem, no way your going to find 30 pretty girls on the Rutgers campus. Also how come they couldn't mix in some ugly girls? Prejudice against ugly girls, that's a major problem. I have a source telling me of the 30 girls none of them were gay, lesbian, transgender, cross dresser, illegal emigrant, or Democratic.
This looks like the death penalty if ever I saw it. Good by cruel world. (Yes this is a joke, please do not take this post a serious.)
This looks like the death penalty if ever I saw it. Good by cruel world. (Yes this is a joke, please do not take this post a serious.)
Oh, I'm sure it's total coincidence.
Just noticed this in the link:
Ummmmmm.....okay.
Who judged that they were pretty? Was there a beauty pageant qualification with qualified and vetted judges?
You can't blame the media or the admins on this. This is all self inflicted by KF.
There are about $2.5 Million reasons why someone WILL come
Agree, this is Flood's infliction..
But c'mon, an admin dropping this info to the press on a day of good news for the program. The timing is very suspicious, and I'm the biggest paper fan on this board.
Someone in the admin doesn't want Flood or our program to succeed.