Rutgers Retains Council to Investigate Football

[IMARUFAN]

This is not meant as a knock on Flood but given the fact that the football team drug policy was put in place by Schiano, he probably doesn't even realize the policy is different for the football team than it is for other sports. And, even he did realize it, I thought Schiano could do no wrong? So, why would it even occur to him to change what the great Gregg Schiano put in place?

And regarding the "recruiting ambassador program" thing, this is common practice for all P5 teams. What, exactly, is being investigated?

Seems to me Barchi is scared to death he'll get fired for "lack of control" over athletics so he's trying to cover his butt with these investigations.

If this is being done to fire Flood, wouldn't it be much less expensive to just fire him already than it would be to hire a law firm to do a "complete investigation"?

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

I quickly skimmed this thread and read the article I haven't seen anything new come up. What's changed. Along as he was following the policy dating back to Schiano, even if considered lenient, what's the problem? Without anything new coming out I don't see why he'd be let go before the end of the season which is the earliest I thought he'd be let go anyway. I also think he'll get some sort of buyout, again unless he's done something very egregious.

Is this a fishing expedition or something and if it was we still haven't seen any fish caught as of yet. If and when it does and depending on the size of the fish I might think different but with what's out now, I'm not sure what's changed with regards to his status.

 

[rucoe89]

Bo Pellini comes to mind. . . .
Jim Tressel comes to mind. . . .
Charlie Weiss comes to mind. . . .
Is Rich Kotite available . . . . .

Where is $2.5million coming from, and is that all in, with assistant pay?

We're screwed ......

 

[AreYouNUTS]

This is not meant as a knock on Flood but given the fact that the football team drug policy was put in place by Schiano, he probably doesn't even realize the policy is different for the football team than it is for other sports. And, even he did realize it, I thought Schiano could do no wrong? So, why would it even occur to him to change what the great Gregg Schiano put in place?

And regarding the "recruiting ambassador program" thing, this is common practice for all P5 teams. What, exactly, is being investigated?

Seems to me Barchi is scared to death he'll get fired for "lack of control" over athletics so he's trying to cover his butt with these investigations.

If this is being done to fire Flood, wouldn't it be much less expensive to just fire him already than it would be to hire a law firm to do a "complete investigation"?

There is not a chance in hell Flood doesn't know his football team's drug policy. None. I mean not only is he the HC, but, he was on the staff under Schiano.

 

[ru66]

doesn't julie "run" the AD ?

 

[WhiteBus]

This is not meant as a knock on Flood but given the fact that the football team drug policy was put in place by Schiano, he probably doesn't even realize the policy is different for the football team than it is for other sports. And, even he did realize it, I thought Schiano could do no wrong? So, why would it even occur to him to change what the great Gregg Schiano put in place?

And regarding the "recruiting ambassador program" thing, this is common practice for all P5 teams. What, exactly, is being investigated?

Seems to me Barchi is scared to death he'll get fired for "lack of control" over athletics so he's trying to cover his butt with these investigations.

If this is being done to fire Flood, wouldn't it be much less expensive to just fire him already than it would be to hire a law firm to do a "complete investigation"?

Your point that Flood didn't know is laughable. Flood wouldn't know other sports policy. He never worked in another sport. He knew the policy. ...looks like he was doing his own thing again. He has got to go!

 

[Knight Shift]

Your point that Flood didn't know is laughable. Flood wouldn't know other sports policy. He never worked in another sport. He knew the policy. ...looks like he was doing his own thing again. He has got to go!

Umm, what? doing his own thing?

 

[ru66]

this is a laugh--if flood knew he failed tests and didn't follow policy, which I doubt, where the hell is julie--when certain bball players failed testing its was pernetti who was in charge--the ADept is in charge here

 

[WhiteBus]

Umm, what? doing his own thing?

Are you serious??? You do know he is suspended because he was told not to contact the professor multiple times right??? Come on do you not see he went off the rails on that and now this. My word. Keep defending him. You guys are crazy

 

[WhiteBus]

this is a laugh--if flood knew he failed tests and didn't follow policy, which I doubt, where the hell is julie--when certain bball players failed testing its was pernetti who was in charge--the ADept is in charge here

Clueless. Simply clueless. Keep blaming someone else but your King Kyle Flood.

 

[ru66]

who's even defending flood --that's in your slanted mind--but if you can't recognize that the AD gets the reports about who is failing testing and leaves it up to a coach--she should be fired along with flood if policy was broken--I know for a fact pernetti got the reports

 

[Jim_from_RU]

who's even defending flood --that's in your slanted mind--but if you can't recognize that the AD gets the reports about who is failing testing and leaves it up to a coach--she should be fired along with flood if policy was broken--I know for a fact pernetti got the reports

Oh Jesus, enough with Tim Pernetti!

 

[Knight Shift]

Are you serious??? You do know he is suspended because he was told not to contact the professor multiple times right??? Come on do you not see he went off the rails on that and now this. My word. Keep defending him. You guys are crazy

You know, Whitebus, I have been patient, but I am done with you. You are a world class close-minded, condescending jackass. Not once did I defend him in my post. Wondering WTF you were talking about. You and a couple of others here are far to chippy, and always looking to pile and and hurl crap at people that don't agree with you. You are miserable.

Still wondering what he did to go off the rails "on this." If you can stop pleasing yourself long enough to type a lucid response, maybe we will learn something other than you hate Flood and you find this very enjoyable.

 

[ru66]

the point is NOT pernetti but the acountabilty/responsibility in his former position-- and these investigators are doing a "TOP" to bottom study--and who's at the top, certainly not flood

 

[NotInRHouse_anon]

 

[WhiteBus]

You know, Whitebus, I have been patient, but I am done with you. You are a world class close-minded, condescending jackass. Not once did I defend him in my post. Wondering WTF you were talking about. You and a couple of others here are far to chippy, and always looking to pile and and hurl crap at people that don't agree with you. You are miserable.

Still wondering what he did to go off the rails "on this." If you can stop pleasing yourself long enough to type a lucid response, maybe we will learn something other than you hate Flood and you find this very enjoyable.

My word. Unreal. Now you saying you are not defending Flood? You throw Julie under the bus but say Flood didn't know. Your Line "Which I doubt" is defending Flood. Open your eyes. Stop sticking you head in the sand. Your defense of this train wreck of an off field season blows my mind.

 

[brgossRU90]

who's even defending flood --that's in your slanted mind--but if you can't recognize that the AD gets the reports about who is failing testing and leaves it up to a coach--she should be fired along with flood if policy was broken--I know for a fact pernetti got the reports

Oh, dude...really? You aren't known as Mrs. Flood for nothing.

 

[seels2662]

Ok I am missing something....what the hell are the allegations about drugs?

 

[ruready07]

The fact that we are so OK with organizations (Rutgers in this case) looking so hard for ways to fire a man and not have to pay him is kind of sad. Says a lot about how low we as a society are willing to stoop. Bunch of fans want to see a guys life stained and damaged just so they can say they were right - and maybe bring in a new coach who will win some more games..
It matters that much? I'd never want to see someone's name destroyed ... Especially to please my sports rooting interests .

And lawyers being hired to watch over lawyers who are watching over the program?!! When the people who run your organization have no guts, they resort to such fear-filled maneuvers.

 

[bethlehemfan]

The theory that Rutgers hired the firm to dig up dirt so they can fire flood without paying him is ridiculous.

 

[tm_nj]

We're screwed ......

I like John L. Smith the ex. Arkansas coach.

 

[WhiteBus]

The theory that Rutgers hired the firm to dig up dirt so they can fire flood without paying him is ridiculous.

What???? Dig up dirt? Oh my the 5% crowd is really working it tonight!

 

[RU#1fan]

Flood may get fired, but NO decent coach is coming to Rutgers without really big guarantees or someone desperate for a second chance. If they are not in either of these categories, then have to question how smart they are.

Wrong.
HC in Premier CFB Conference
$2.5 Million potential Salary
Largest Media Market in the Country
One of the Top Recruiting states on the East Coast

You are right, what bright decent Coach would want this opportunity.

 

[BuggsyRU]

What???? Dig up dirt? Oh my the 5% crowd is really working it tonight!

Oh isn't that so cute. You have you own "5% crowd" little catchphrase.

 

[ru66]

man you are really hopeless--where did I say anyone knew or didn't know--you just can't recognize that if the drug testing policy was ignored or circumvented, the buck doesn't stop at flood--these weak and immature comments about mrs. flood show your immaturity and quite frankly how weak and stupid you portray yourself

 

[WhiteBus]

Oh isn't that so cute. You have you own "5% crowd" little catchphrase.

Lol another one. You are like the 3 monkeys. See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.
Now go back and stick you head in the sand.

 

[WhiteBus]

man you are really hopeless--where did I say anyone knew or didn't know--you just can't recognize that if the drug testing policy was ignored or circumvented, the buck doesn't stop at flood--these weak and immature comments about mrs. flood show your immaturity and quite frankly how weak and stupid you portray yourself

So you are ok with Flood ignoring it but everyone else is at fault. Wow keep digging a bigger hole

 

[seels2662]

Wrong.
HC in Premier CFB Conference
$2.5 Million potential Salary
Largest Media Market in the Country
One of the Top Recruiting states on the East Coast

You right want bright , decent Coach would want this opportunity.

1)We are not paying the next coach $2.5M
2)We will not give any promises that we will add money to the facilities
3)If the largest media market was so important then why didn't we have an a-list coach in, well ever
4)There will be at least 10 jobs this offseason that will be a better job than Rutgers.

Sorry but any person who takes the Rutgers job at this time will not be bright.

 

[bethlehemfan]

Your lack of reasoning skills is leading you to making incorrect assumptions but I imagine that's not something you are uncomfortable with.

 

[RUInsanityToo]

The theory that Rutgers hired the firm to dig up dirt so they can fire flood without paying him is ridiculous.

LOL. So true. The firm is likely charging RU more that $500 per hour. If RU is using them just to dig up dirt than both Barchi and Herman should be **** canned as well. Letting it be known to the public that you are performing an internal investigation into Sex and Drugs is just plain stupidity from a PR standpoint. You keep it private. There is already cause for firing Flood, no need to spend premium dollars to further that cause.

 

[BuggsyRU]

Lol another one. You are like the 3 monkeys. See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.
Now go back and stick you head in the sand.

AH man...you didn't find a way to get your cutesy catchphrase in.

Try a little harder, Short Bus.

 

[NBKnight]

Ok I am missing something....what the hell are the allegations about drugs?

Terry Lloyd said he failed many drug tests.

 

[miketd1]

The fact that we are so OK with organizations (Rutgers in this case) looking so hard for ways to fire a man and not have to pay him is kind of sad. Says a lot about how low we as a society are willing to stoop. Bunch of fans want to see a guys life stained and damaged just so they can say they were right - and maybe bring in a new coach who will win some more games..
It matters that much? I'd never want to see someone's name destroyed ... Especially to please my sports rooting interests .

And lawyers being hired to watch over lawyers who are watching over the program?!! When the people who run your organization have no guts, they resort to such fear-filled maneuvers.

Seems to me that Flood destroyed his own name. What has transpired since are simply the consequences.

 

[RU05]

LOL. So true. The firm is likely charging RU more that $500 per hour. If RU is using them just to dig up dirt than both Barchi and Herman should be **** canned as well. Letting it be known to the public that you are performing an internal investigation into Sex and Drugs is just plain stupidity from a PR standpoint. You keep it private. There is already cause for firing Flood, no need to spend premium dollars to further that cause.

But the investigation is in regards to issues, or extensions to issues, already known.

Rutgers is doing due diligence here. I don't see it as anything more then that.

 

[Rush121]

Have a hard time believing the team swept Terry Lloyd's drug failures under the rug. He and his lawyer are probably trying to build a case that he has a problem to reduce his punishment. Thus blaming team policy enforcement. RU doing due dillegence is ok. Assuming they are trying to find cause step by step in public seems a bit of a stretch. The perception of this program run amok is ridiculous. 2 months ago we were the model of decencancy. Probably not best to adhere to the media narrative.

 

[WhiteBus]

AH man...you didn't find a way to get your cutesy catchphrase in.

Try a litlte harder, Short Bus.

I drive the the short bus. Your mommy puts you in the back seat and buckles you in.
BTW does your mommy let you go to games?

 

[RU05]

The fact that we are so OK with organizations (Rutgers in this case) looking so hard for ways to fire a man and not have to pay him is kind of sad. Says a lot about how low we as a society are willing to stoop. Bunch of fans want to see a guys life stained and damaged just so they can say they were right - and maybe bring in a new coach who will win some more games..
It matters that much? I'd never want to see someone's name destroyed ... Especially to please my sports rooting interests .

And lawyers being hired to watch over lawyers who are watching over the program?!! When the people who run your organization have no guts, they resort to such fear-filled maneuvers.

Flood has made a $1 million + over the past couple years, he made $100K+ before that. Way more then I will make in my life time. Let's not be so concerned about his well being.

 

[LadyRU09]

The theory that Rutgers hired the firm to dig up dirt so they can fire flood without paying him is ridiculous.

But if they retained this firm, it means they had already hired it for something totally different. Or did they just hire them only for the Flood investigation? That's not retaining them, it's hiring for the first time.

 

[bethlehemfan]

That's not what retaining means in the context of legal counsel.

 

[SkilletHead2]

Here's a wild possibility.

The investigation is occurring because comments made by a former player and issues that came up in the previous investigation have given the President and the AD concern that there may be problems. And so, they have hired a firm to track these issues down.

Maybe they don't have an agenda other than getting at the truth here because they are both doing their job in an intelligent and honorable fashion. And maybe when it's over, they find out that Flood hasn't done anything wrong other than perhaps taking an educational perspective toward drug violation issues.

Maybe it's not too bad. And if not, then KF's future will be decided by what JH thinks the state of the program currently and the potential for improvement is given our financial situation.

Pretty tin hat I know, but not beyond the realm of possibility.