Do college sports-loving fish count? That's the 80 mile circle.. chock-full of dense bedroom communities.. look at all the urban (white on this map) areas..
@mdk01
The dollars are how you get the Ws.
The two of you are making stupid points! The number of people living near a sports franchise is meaningless. It's the number of fans. Texas easily has more fans in there 50 or 80 mile radius. The stupidity on here never ends
You are the one showing stupidity. The chart doesn't say fans, it says population.
That is what the OP posted and what was being discussed. I even already noted exactly what you said about the density of college sports fans being different. So why repeat what I said?
I didn’t wait at all
People in NJ don't care about college football until the jackasses from NJ 101.5 and the Star Ledger tell them that Rutgers Athletics is wasting their tax money.
We are talking about attendance not population. 2nd post in this thread! Try to keep up!!! I asked why we never sell out with the "great population" within 50 miles.
Your post was the 2nd post, not the OP post. You are suggesting that you hijacked the thread and that people should talk about what YOU said rather than the OP. And several people following your post, starting with the 4th post, did just that.
It's been that way since the Big East days; cuse games tended to draw bigger national numbers while Rutgers games tended to draw bigger tri-state area numbers. I remember in 2011 on a Friday night ESPN/ESPN2 aired RU-UL and a cuse game (don't recall the opponents) on Friday night head-to-head. If I recall correctly the cuse game almost doubled RU-UL nationally while RU-UL almost doubled the cuse game in the NY/NJ metro area. I also remember seeing sometime in 2013 that over the past 10 seasons at that time RU had something like 8 of the 10 highest-rated games in the NY/NJ area that aired on ESPN channels.
Sewercuse is not located in the NYC/NJ area.
That was when cuse was heavily branding themselves as 'NY's college team' and advertising such in NYC. I still remember Rutgers-Howard at the Stadium outdrawing cuse-USC at the Meadowlands head-to-head at the gate by over 12,000+ fans in 2012.
^^^These^^^ thoughts of mine only consider physical attendance. Butts in the seats.
When you’re the only game in town and the product is good…
But we aren't the only game in town except Labor Day weekend. The next weekend we have to deal with the NFL.
From an all around media perspective, Rutgers Football takes a back seat, way back seat to the NFL. From an interest standpoint the same. Not many choose to invest in both College Football season tickets and pro football season tickets. Yes all that has an impact on going to a Rutgers game on a Saturday. Penn State, Nebraska, Iowa... do not have that issue. Those places truly are the only game in town. That's why they have strong fan bases.
And the W's to go along with it to get even the *casual fan interested.
I think most everyone gets my original point. Population means nothing. Some are still struggling with that idea but they always do.
nope
Other teams over come most of that if you are entertaining and are competitive because they have nothing else
key word competitive. we suck, I said that earlier and that is the driving force. People like winners, RU still hasn't figured out that if you want money, prestige, top students etc etc then you need to invest in and demand more from your flagship sport in the country's flagship conference.
Which has been my point all along. The OP was all about population and thought we were golden because of that. Stupid concept.
You do understand what latent means, right?
I don't agree. Tell me the schools that play major college football where parking and traffic doesn't suck.
Sorry, as the OP I never said that we were "golden" because of population, and it was not a stupid post. Tony Altimore is a very smart guy, and his data charts are the best out there. The point is that we are surrounded by people living in the NY metro area - and there are A LOT of them. In terms of being positioned for success and fan interest, this is a big factor IF the team is a winner. The data is striking. It's only one part of the equation, but it's a big deal. We just have to win consistently.
Unfortunately Syracuse is still outdrawing RU significantly in weekly TV viewership. Last season 220k more people watched Syracuse than RU football. Year prior was even higher.. 400k more. We have a way too go.
